Sonic R. System | Page 3601 | Forex Factory

Options

Go to
Permalinks
Print Thread

Similar Threads

Sonic R.evolution 95 replies

The System Behind the System, by Merlin Jeffries 16 replies

Old School Sonic System + Other Things 11 replies

Knife system, Vegas 4h system related questions. 4 replies

Would you trade this system? New system #2. 10 replies

Attachments: Sonic R. System
Exit Attachments

Sonic R. System

  • #72,001
  • May 22, 2014 1:33am May 22, 2014 1:33am
Repsaj & allisonmagic,

I have been patient. I have stood up for the creed of this thread. I have bent over backwards not allowing myself to get upset with you two.

Allisonmagic, by changing subject you do not excuse yourself from having failed to follow instructions. Post #1 has multiple warnings and you are in violation of all of them. Goodbye.

Repsaj, I stop being nice when insulted. Goodbye.

-tah
  • #72,002
  • May 22, 2014 1:35am May 22, 2014 1:35am
Quoting allisonmagic
{quote} they don't always use classic setups.. i've seen traders adding scouts and it has nothing to do with a classic trade.. then adding more as it goes against them. loeil adds trades to his losers constantly.. look at his previous trades ! are you freaking kidding me ? you guys do whatever you want, and it has nothing to do with " classic " setups
This is actually true. Regardless of who has studied post #1, as long as trades that are not purely Classic are allowed to remain on the thread it will be understood that they are acceptable. Therein lies the confusion and disharmony on this thread.
  • #72,003
  • May 22, 2014 1:41am May 22, 2014 1:41am
Quoting TrendyTrade
{quote} This is actually true. Regardless of who has studied post #1, as long as trades that are not purely Classic are allowed to remain on the thread it will be understood that they are acceptable. Therein lies the confusion and disharmony on this thread.
One does not "study" Post #1 and consider themselves finished. They haven't even begun. They are to read it and follow the instructions therein. In all the linked material things become more defined. We have Classic and Scout trades, both introduced by Sonic. Their use is defined. Current posts usually do specify which entries are Classics and which are Scouts, and why they are made. Folks confused are simply folks that have not done their homework or are "F" grade students.

-tah
  • #72,004
  • May 22, 2014 1:43am May 22, 2014 1:43am
Quoting TrendyTrade
{quote} This is actually true. Regardless of who has studied post #1, as long as trades that are not purely Classic are allowed to remain on the thread it will be understood that they are acceptable. Therein lies the confusion and disharmony on this thread.

  • #72,005
  • May 22, 2014 1:50am May 22, 2014 1:50am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} One does not "study" Post #1 and consider themselves finished. They haven't even begun. They are to read it and follow the instructions therein. In all the linked material things become more defined. We have Classic and Scout trades, both introduced by Sonic. Their use is defined. Current posts usually do specify which entries are Classics and which are Scouts, and why they are made. Folks confused are simply folks that have not done their homework. -tah
What about the multitude of posted trades that consist of scouts BEFORE a Classic setup? Sonic has emphasised that scouts only be added AFTER a Classic setup, at re-entry points. This has been defined. You and I both know that this thread got out of hand when traders got overzealous about position building with scouts BEFORE a Classic setup. Which part of post #1 and the following linked material sanctions this?
  • #72,006
  • May 22, 2014 1:52am May 22, 2014 1:52am
Quoting Repsaj
My first half of the week gain 942.16 eur = 1290.76 usd {image}
Rapsaj
I found very useful your post here. Thank you
It helps me being truthful on this Sonic R + PVSRA trading method.
It also helps me comparing your profit percentage to set my own profit percentage on account.
Comparing helps improving. Am I getting small profits on each trade? am I not placing enough trades losing opportunities? Same as we set profit targets on each trade and we analyze results about how each trade develops, it is also important to analyze the big picture which is trading account and resumes all our trading info and how we are doing. At this point comparisons against feasible real numbers it is very important and hard to find out there.
Keep the good work
  • #72,007
  • Edited 2:16am May 22, 2014 1:54am | Edited 2:16am
Quoting TrendyTrade
{quote} What about the multitude of posted trades that consist of scouts BEFORE a Classic setup? Sonic has emphasised that scouts only be added AFTER a Classic setup, at re-entry points. This has been defined. You and I both know that this thread got out of hand when traders got overzealous about position building with scouts BEFORE a Classic setup. Which part of post #1 and the following linked material sanctions this?
Actually, you are wrong on this point. Sonic even has a video (again, linked in Post #1) that starts a trade with a Scout. Do your homework. The use of Scouts is varied. Great care must be exercised. There are many situations where one could say "no" and another could say "yes". No matter what Sonic and I say, there are times anyone might go against recommendations and better their trade for it. It is a difficult area to be accusative about.

The Classic is straight forward, which is why I am trying to get the thread refocused on it. Scouts are a different story. The fact is the MMs do not play according to straight forward rules. We can never know how price will move next, not for all the analysis we do nor by any other method. We can know if they are bulls or bears, and in come the Scouts - at the discretion of the trader - to help a trade compensate for the shenanigans of the MMs. Scouts help us deal with situations just too varied to be straight forward. We make recommendations as to when Scouts should be considered. But, let us be realistic and realize there are a variety of situations that a good call on the bias of the MMs, together with some inserted Scouts, can do a lot to turn a troubled trade into one that eventually makes very nice profit. We just cannot map everything out crystal clear and expect the market to behave accordingly. We needed something that added flexibility to the Classic trade. Sonic gave us the Scout. It is up to us to use it wisely. We try to present some recommendations on how to do that, but real-time circumstances dictate with as much power as do the mapped out plays in the play book. Sometimes the quarterback has to play by instinct rather than the playbook.

Anyone, myself included, can start with a Classic and have it end up looking more like an army of Scouts that came to save a trade that probably should have just been closed early on for some loss. It happens. We are, after all, imperfect traders trading real time and we cannot know how thing will go. Is this not part of what traders learn here?


-tah
  • #72,008
  • May 22, 2014 2:00am May 22, 2014 2:00am
Serious Recomendations
1. Do not over trade big-time, or trade during Asian Session. Most of the best setups with proper follow-thru occur after the London session opens.


then why are people trading asia ?
  • #72,009
  • May 22, 2014 2:05am May 22, 2014 2:05am
Quoting allisonmagic
{quote} i didn't do my homework because i don't bother to mess with the indicator settings ? that's great, good analysis there. and your 1 little example doesn't make up for the hundreds of ways to trade this that i've seen.
allisonmagic,

that post is the real essence of Sonic R System.
You want to be successful in Forex bagging money home, but you don't to do your homework seriously.
Most important, be patience.
Don't chase the High/Low.

If you finish your homework, you can keep everything simple.
1. Identify what MMs is.
2. Find & Analyses the Phase.
3. Study the wave.
4. Find a suitable "Classic Entry", where is good SL & TP.

-AdrianC.
  • #72,010
  • May 22, 2014 2:08am May 22, 2014 2:08am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} Actually, you are wrong on this point. Sonic even has a video (again, linked in Post #1) that starts a trade with a Scout. Do your homework. The use of Scouts is varied. Great care must be exercised. There are many situations where one could say "no" and another could say "yes". No matter what Sonic and I say, there are times anyone might go against recommendations and better their trade for it. It is a difficult area to be accusative about. The Classic is straight forward, which is why I am trying to get the thread refocused on it. Scouts...
Thank you TAH. I stand corrected. Now it has been clarified that starting with Scouts IS actually sanctioned by Sonic my doubts have been dispelled. I totally agree that "great care must be exercised" with Scouts before a Classic, as Sonic has demonstrated in the video:
Inserted Video

An important note:the way Sonic has recommended Scouts be used is VERY different to the position building (adding to a losing trade) that has been popularised on this thread...even though this too can be successful...sometimes.
  • #72,011
  • May 22, 2014 2:22am May 22, 2014 2:22am
Sonicers,

Allisonmagic and Repsaj have been expelled from this thread.

If any of you wish to follow their trading styles, you might PM them to start their own threads.

-tah
  • #72,012
  • May 22, 2014 2:25am May 22, 2014 2:25am
Quoting allisonmagic
{quote} Sorry Repsaj, i don't mean to barge in on your convo with TAH, but i want to refer TAH back to my previous statement http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...95#post7484995 yeah TAH, they are adapting nicely to your conspiracy theory and classic trades..

So who or what should we be listening to ?
  • #72,013
  • May 22, 2014 2:26am May 22, 2014 2:26am
Just to cross check with you guys,
Does your broker shows the London Open "Gap"?
Attached Image (click to enlarge)
Click to Enlarge Name: eurjpym15.png Size: 99 KB
  • #72,014
  • May 22, 2014 2:29am May 22, 2014 2:29am
Quoting AdrianC
Just to cross check with you guys, Does your broker shows the London Open "Gap"? {image}
Yes, it's due to the French PMI numbers
Don’t ever let someone tell you that you can’t do something.
  • #72,015
  • May 22, 2014 2:33am May 22, 2014 2:33am
Quoting AdrianC
Just to cross check with you guys, Does your broker shows the London Open "Gap"? {image}

Nope
Attached Image (click to enlarge)
Click to Enlarge Name: 22-May-14 9-31-29 AM.jpg Size: 126 KB
  • #72,016
  • May 22, 2014 2:34am May 22, 2014 2:34am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} GBPJPY: This has a lot of downside potential. The Robber Banks know what is the essence of the upcoming JPY high impact releases. We don't, but they do. They do not react to such releases. They scheme in advance of them. So, while 170.30 should surely be hit, the price could go a lot lower..... {image}
GBPJPY:

And what we got was a run well below 170.30 to nearly 169.75, and then a really good whip back up. It is still in a down trend, and with high volumes at the higher prices when examining the lower TFs. This could turn out to be a nice Pump n' Dump. Time will tell.
Attached Image (click to enlarge)
Click to Enlarge Name: may 2014 - 114.png Size: 70 KB
  • #72,017
  • May 22, 2014 2:35am May 22, 2014 2:35am
Quoting Armacom
{quote} Yes, it's due to the French PMI numbers
Thanks buddy, my broker seldom shows gap. So I was curious about this.
  • #72,018
  • May 22, 2014 2:37am May 22, 2014 2:37am
Quoting AdrianC
Just to cross check with you guys, Does your broker shows the London Open "Gap"? {image}
No gap.
Attached Image (click to enlarge)
Click to Enlarge Name: may 2014 - 115.png Size: 67 KB
  • #72,019
  • May 22, 2014 2:45am May 22, 2014 2:45am
Quoting Staedtler
{quote} So who or what should we be listening to ?
Here is a novel solution. Read Post #1 and all the linked materials, carefully following all instructions you encounter. Then make up your own mind.

-tah
  • #72,020
  • May 22, 2014 2:55am May 22, 2014 2:55am
GBPUSD clasic M15 long. I know about news therefore SL.
TP not. SL set.

Attached Image (click to enlarge)
Click to Enlarge Name: gbpusdmicrom15-clasic-long.png Size: 80 KB
100 traders viewing now