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  • #71,961
  • Edited 10:01pm May 21, 2014 9:08pm | Edited 10:01pm
Quoting allisonmagic
{quote} everything i say might come off as i'm an asshole, but that's because i'm pissed off.. and frustrated beyond belief i have tried.. you think i'm not doing something right then tell me in detail.. don't give me all this theory and tell me to go back to the manual. Because i've studied those manuals over and over again many times and then come in here and you guys are doing things completely different.. here's my questions.. How do you find the weekly, daily bias ? or does it even matter ? why do you guys trade against the trend.. why do you...
1. Know the Classic.
2. Forget all about bias!
3. Forget all about trend!
4. Trade superlative setups.
5. Watch them like a hawk!
6. Manage them with discipline.

There is a lot of "noise" on the thread. I create some of it. So do a lot of other folks. I am doing what I can to try and minimize it. You need to learn the ideal Classic setup, wait for it, trade it and manage it. You need to shut out all this "noise", keep your nose to the grindstone, and pave your own road to success.

Just because someone makes dozens, hundreds or even thousands of pips on a trade does not mean that was a trade anyone should have taken! Many times it is a bad trade that was saved by adding a lot of Scouts that should not have been added either! We are not perfect traders here. So long as you do know what a Classic trade is, and participate only in trading the best Classic setups with disciplined trade management, you can exclude the rest of what appears here, shut it out, and proceed on your own road to success.

The Weekly bias is a crutch Sonic uses. Is it effective? Probably about as much as anything else. And probably about as ineffective as anything else, too!

You can forget about the trend, also. The Sonic R. System will present valid Classics regardless of the trend. Why? Simply because a retrace in a trend can start out with a valid Classic counter trend setup. So, what difference does it make if you even know what the trend is? It doesn't!

Just know what a good setup is, take it when it comes, watch it like a hawk and manage it with discipline.

There, now your work begins.

-tah
  • #71,962
  • May 21, 2014 9:18pm May 21, 2014 9:18pm
Hey all,
just wanna say Hi!
I just joined a few minutes ago and am looking forward to make this place my home on FF, learning and trading the SonicR system!
I look to all of you for guidance and support.
Off to read the first page onwards!
  • #71,963
  • May 21, 2014 9:28pm May 21, 2014 9:28pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} 1. Know the Classic. 2. Forget all about bias! 3. Forget all about trend! 4. Trade superlative setups. 5. Watch them like a hawk! There is a lot of "noise" on the thread. I create some of it. So do a lot of other folks. I am doing what I can to try and minimize it. You need to learn the ideal Classic setup, wait for it, trade it and manage it. You need to shut out all the noise and pave your own road to success.

ok TAH.. i'll keep working on it
  • #71,964
  • May 21, 2014 10:08pm May 21, 2014 10:08pm
Quoting allisonmagic
couple scouts loaded, GBPNZD. Time will tell {image}
Check the quote.. i was short quite a while back.. i was premature and didn't hold my positions. yeah this is GBPAUD, but it's very closely related to GBPNZD

Alright you guys think i don't give any analysis on my trades.. even though i have. here's my idea of GBPAUD, I've had a bearish bias on this cross and GBPNZD for days. I got stopped out and didn't take the trade again, next thing you know it drops out before i could think that i was right in the first place.

Bias is still bearish, here's a 4h TF. False break out of the trend with heavy volume. Price pushed above 8300 to be instantly rejected. I'm targeting the RWL. Classic position on the 15m can't get any more clear than this..


I reopened my trades today. I'm sure i'll see some drawdown as the LO comes into play, but it doesn't matter. I'll be adding more short positions after it pulls back.


you guys think i don't know what i'm doing ? then tell me i'm wrong. I've been short on this for days, and it finally moved after i closed all my positions.
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  • #71,965
  • May 21, 2014 10:10pm May 21, 2014 10:10pm
Quoting traderathome
AUDUSD: I agree with santos23. Here is proof the Robber Banks are bulls. Simply look at the swing down and the volume story behind it. The lower the price went, the more the trading. Buy low, sell high......in this case the lower the price went the higher the buying became. The Robber Banks simply manipulated the price lower in the "off hours" of the market to advantage their long building. -tah{image} Bingo!........Buy!.....Buy!.....Buy! Boy, if anyone wants an example of how crooked is this forex market casino of the Robber Banks, here it is!{image}...
Oh man I missed this, because I just woke up...
I wait for London pull back then
  • #71,966
  • May 21, 2014 10:16pm May 21, 2014 10:16pm
AU classic long.. currently at work place, i will.replace the chart with mt4 desktop version once i got home.
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  • #71,967
  • Edited 10:35pm May 21, 2014 10:19pm | Edited 10:35pm
Quoting froglicker
Hey all, just wanna say Hi! I just joined a few minutes ago and am looking forward to make this place my home on FF, learning and trading the SonicR system! I look to all of you for guidance and support. Off to read the first page onwards!
Welcome, froglicker. Good, see you when your done reading, next year!

Seriously, you have a lot of information to absorb and filter. Take your time. Do the job carefully and diligently.

-tah
  • #71,968
  • May 21, 2014 10:26pm May 21, 2014 10:26pm
Quoting allisonmagic
{quote} Check the quote.. i was short quite a while back.. i was premature and didn't hold my positions. yeah this is GBPAUD, but it's very closely related to GBPNZD Alright you guys think i don't give any analysis on my trades.. even though i have. here's my idea of GBPAUD, I've had a bearish bias on this cross and GBPNZD for days. I got stopped out and didn't take the trade again, next thing you know it drops out before i could think that i was right in the first place. Bias is still bearish, here's a 4h TF. False break out of the trend with heavy...
1. Might have waited for a retrace upwards, as this is the Asian session and the LO MMs are greedy bastards always looking for the best prices. If they aren't the current prices, they will often take the current price to the best price area, or at least to a better price area.

2. We do not use divergence. Period. Do not add shit you do not need when you have trouble enough staying focused on what is important!

3. I have a saying for those that "guess" right and price later proves it........."Right entry, wrong century."

4. Use the SonicR Trade Levels indicator and turn off your MT4 chart trade level lines.

5. Shit can the candle time on the chart. Just turn off Swaps and Candle time appears in Panel. I thought you said you knew everything.
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  • #71,969
  • May 21, 2014 10:33pm May 21, 2014 10:33pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} 1. Might have waited for a retrace upwards, as this is the Asian session and the LO MMs are greedy bastards always looking for the best prices. If they aren't the current prices, they will often take the current price to the best price area, or at least to a better price area. 2. We do not use divergence. Period. Do not add shit you do not need when you have trouble enough staying focused on what is important! 3. I have a saying for those that "guess" right and price later proves it........."Right entry, wrong century." 4. Use the SonicR...
Prof.Tah

All sonicers need to train more "Patience".
Yea, I will wait for London retracement!
  • #71,970
  • May 21, 2014 10:38pm May 21, 2014 10:38pm
Quoting AdrianC
{quote} Oh man I missed this, because I just woke up... I wait for London pull back then
me too just wake up from sleep. but last night already placed some... not so happy now

Quoting allisonmagic
{quote} everything i say might come off as i'm an asshole, but that's because i'm pissed off.. and frustrated beyond belief i have tried.. you think i'm not doing something right then tell me in detail.. don't give me all this theory and tell me to go back to the manual. Because i've studied those manuals over and over again many times and then come in here and you guys are doing things completely different.. here's my questions.. How do you find the weekly, daily bias ? or does it even matter ? why do you guys trade against the trend.. why do you...
in my opinion, you need to watch the price everyday to understand how they are moving, the more you observe the more you get it.. cant just like never trade an pair and you see potential up/down then jump on it. thats why i only trade major pair..
and you violated a rule from post 1
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  • #71,971
  • Edited 11:14pm May 21, 2014 10:53pm | Edited 11:14pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} 1. Might have waited for a retrace upwards, as this is the Asian session and the LO MMs are greedy bastards always looking for the best prices. If they aren't the current prices, they will often take the current price to the best price area, or at least to a better price area. 2. We do not use divergence. Period. Do not add shit you do not need when you have trouble enough staying focused on what is important! 3. I have a saying for those that "guess" right and price later proves it........."Right entry, wrong century." 4. Use the SonicR...

listen.. Whatever is on my chart is there from the template.. the candle time is there because of me, the rest of it is all Sonic R. Template


now you're finally getting somewhere ! .. . finally give it to me straight.

how's this
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  • #71,972
  • May 21, 2014 10:54pm May 21, 2014 10:54pm
Quoting feinan
{quote} me too just wake up from sleep. but last night already placed some... not so happy now {quote} in my opinion, you need to watch the price everyday to understand how they are moving, the more you observe the more you get it.. cant just like never trade an pair and you see potential up/down then jump on it. thats why i only trade major pair.. and you violated a rule from post 1 {image}

then what's the point of trading if you can't trade possible setups on all pairs ?


also.. i don't sleep.. i stay up 18 hours every single day of the week watching charts..
  • #71,973
  • Edited 11:26pm May 21, 2014 11:14pm | Edited 11:26pm
Quoting allisonmagic
{quote} listen.. Whatever is on my chart is there from the template.. the candle time is there because of me, the rest of it is all Sonic R. Template now you're finally getting somewhere ! .. . finally give it to me straight.
I am simply trying to help someone who claims to have already read everything. If you have, which includes the User Notes and External Inputs for the Panel indicator, then you have no reason to clutter your chart with a separate candle time indy when candle time is provided for in the Panel indy, which you should know if you did everything you say you did. Maybe, when you say you have already read everything, I should understand that you read but did not pay attention?

Now, if you have read everything, and did understand it all, and you still put a candle time indy on your chart when it is provided for in the Panel, then.....as you asked.....I will give it to you straight. Don't, because you don't need to clutter your chart with anything more than what has been provided. Clear enough now?

I think I sense the problem here. You claim you want a system that works. On the other hand, you want to do things your way. Make up your mind.

-tah
  • #71,974
  • May 21, 2014 11:15pm May 21, 2014 11:15pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} I am simply trying to help someone who claims to have already read everything. If you have, which includes the User Notes and External Inputs for the Panel indicator, then you have no reason to clutter your chart with a separate candle time indy when candle time is provided for in the Panel indy. Maybe, when you say you have already read everything I should assume you read but did not pay attention? -tah

i read the parts on how to trade with this system. that's it. come to find out it's not what you guys are doing in reality.


you know what.. just delete all my posts.. i'm so sick and tired of all this right now. trying to absorb all of this and it's getting me nowhere.. i try and it's never going to be right.. sorry for cluttering the thread with my useless posts..

good luck with this.
  • #71,975
  • Edited May 22, 2014 12:31am May 21, 2014 11:37pm | Edited May 22, 2014 12:31am
Quoting allisonmagic
{quote} i read the parts on how to trade with this system. that's it. come to find out it's not what you guys are doing in reality. you know what.. just delete all my posts.. i'm so sick and tired of all this right now. trying to absorb all of this and it's getting me nowhere.. i try and it's never going to be right.. sorry for cluttering the thread with my useless posts.. good luck with this.
allisonmagic,

Okay, the truth finally comes out. You did not do your Post #1 homework. Now it comes into question just how little did you actually do and understand. You figured you could do just fine without following instructions. You chose the easy thing to do, not the smart thing to do. And when it turns out you are not doing fine, you blame everyone and everything else for the failures instead of yourself, which is where the responsibility for them lays.

So, your choices are to either quit, or to start over and do all of the prescribed work others here have done. If you think the path to success is easy because that is the way you want it to be, you should quit.

There is an expression, "You only get out of something that which you put into it." You have been adamantly claiming to have read everything. You lied to all of us. The worst part is that you lied to yourself by somehow convincing yourself you could come here looking to become a better trader, and start off by deciding what instructions you would follow and what ones you wouldn't follow, as if you already were smarter than the rest of us, or at least smart enough to know what you did not need to know. Think about it.

Unless you can humble yourself to start over like a child knowing nothing and dutifully following instruction, you will not succeed. Here, arrogance about what you already know, or think you already know, is an obstacle to success, not an asset. And being lazy will be the killer of whatever assets you do have.

You asked for it to be given to you straight. By your own admission you came back here because nothing anywhere else worked for you. It is time you start to accept that it has never been a question of nothing working for you, but that you have done too little of what is required for something to work for you.

-tah
  • #71,976
  • May 21, 2014 11:44pm May 21, 2014 11:44pm
Quoting allisonmagic
{quote} i read the parts on how to trade with this system. that's it. come to find out it's not what you guys are doing in reality
maybe i do not have right to comment this because im new, but i have to say 1st thing 1st, dont make thing complicated

1) understand what mm doing.. you can check prof tah's post. He always say about the robber bank whip and whack, try understand it why he say so.. and understand why.. then u will know the direction of mms.. i practice this using simulator..

2) you enter only when you see classic.. even for news.. scout enter are for pro like prof tah/loeil/feinan

3) you dont need to spend 24 hours infront of your pc.. clear your mind get some sleep.

4) take the best setup for entry.. if you missed.. you have plenty of chance, rush to entry will get your $ become MMs liquidity.

for your info i have blowed more than 20 demo account.. 2 real account.. until i come to sonic, i see some profit.. i will continue blowing demo account every weekend using simulator..
  • #71,977
  • May 22, 2014 12:14am May 22, 2014 12:14am
After long time learn and after practices demo its my first live account trade with sonic system

long EJ
hope i am right
waiting for experts reply
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  • #71,978
  • May 22, 2014 12:15am May 22, 2014 12:15am
Quoting bappafx
After long time learn and after practices demo its my first live account trade with sonic system long EJ hope i am right waiting for experts reply {image}
Welcome to the club.. good luck for your journey.. if the momentum is not strong, it is adviced to enter during LO..
  • #71,979
  • May 22, 2014 12:18am May 22, 2014 12:18am
Quoting bolehbah69
{quote} Welcome to the club.. good luck for your journey..
thanks bro
  • #71,980
  • May 22, 2014 12:32am May 22, 2014 12:32am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} allisonmagic, Okay, the truth finally comes out. You did not do your Post #1 homework. Now it comes into question just how little did you actually do and understand. You figured you could do just fine without following instructions. You chose the easy thing to do, not the smart thing to do. And when it turns out you are not doing fine, you blame everyone and everything else for the failures instead of yourself, which is where the responsibility for them lays. So, your choices are to either quit, or to start over and do all of the prescribed...

I've worked my ass off for weeks.. i haven't slept. You think i'm not putting in the work or the homework.. well everything i've been posting has been learned from listening to all of you. And guess what.. i'm not doing anything right ! so the problem is me ? no.. the problem is what you guys are teaching. Giving me all this bullshit about don't use divergence, don't make your SL more than 100 pips, Only trade classic setups.. ETC.... you guys don't practice what you preach. i'm emulating everything you guys tell me.. then when i do finally post what i'm doing.. it's all wrong.. so why are you teaching this way if it's not the way to trade with this system ?
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