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  • #70,961
  • May 9, 2014 3:45am May 9, 2014 3:45am
UC - long.
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Whatever is obvious is obviously wrong!"
  • #70,962
  • Edited 4:04am May 9, 2014 3:47am | Edited 4:04am
Quoting TrendyTrade
{quote} Very impressive Drawme5. Many on this thread have had similar trades, however you'll notice that TAH is wanting to 'cleanup' the thread to include only trades that START with a Classic setup (not scouts) and building the trade by having scouts added at re-entry points. Although trades like this are certainly possible, to reduce the risk of large drawdowns, entering a trade with Classic as confirmation first will increase the probability of price heading in our desired direction. Once you've had a few of these trades built on scouts that...
Who are you?

I dont do Classics. I only do Scouts and this is how I build them. This is how I learn from Tah and Loeil before you come up.

I know it can give big drawdowns, but I do a proper money management, where I can be 300 pips down on my Average Entry and only taking 5% risk on 1 pair. And this is not the best I can do, but I think its good enough for now. The rest is patience.. I have AU short open from 25 March.. big DD and its hard to keep it open, but I know I´m right, it is just a matter of time.
Im trading live account, not playing fun money.
I dont believe my post was against any rules... and we just need 1 taliban.. not 2.. please.
Dificult things take longer, Imposible ones just take a bit more
  • #70,963
  • May 9, 2014 3:50am May 9, 2014 3:50am
Quoting Drawme5
EU - banked 2627 pips I think this was my best building.. still room to improve! {image}
Well done
Whatever is obvious is obviously wrong!"
  • #70,964
  • May 9, 2014 3:53am May 9, 2014 3:53am
Quoting loeil
{quote} EU - closed for 2970 pips gain {image}
As usual the great patience and nice profit.
  • #70,965
  • May 9, 2014 3:53am May 9, 2014 3:53am
Quoting loeil
{quote} EU - closed for 2970 pips gain {image}
Great as always, rush me and closed my positions yesterday. The GBP continues its descent ..
  • #70,966
  • May 9, 2014 3:53am May 9, 2014 3:53am
GBPNZD Short Trade Opened:

Entered short #1, Classic. Trend is angling down. Dragon is angled down and has crossed below Trend. PA is below both. Still, in spite of this seemingly good setup, it is Friday and besides that, the robber banks might just whippy whacky this in a range today. We cannot know how price will move. This is a chance for a bit of profit, or an opportunity to exercise good money management if it goes sour. Time will tell.

-tah
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  • #70,967
  • May 9, 2014 3:59am May 9, 2014 3:59am
Quoting VictorFF
{quote} Great as always, rush me and closed my positions yesterday. The GBP continues its descent ..
Yeah, I have not the best building on GU, so I need lot of patience again
Whatever is obvious is obviously wrong!"
  • #70,968
  • May 9, 2014 4:14am May 9, 2014 4:14am
Quoting Drawme5
{quote} Who are you? I dont do Classics. I only do Scouts and this is how I build them. This is how I learn from Tah and Loeil before you come up. I know it can give big drawdowns, but I do a proper money management, where I can be 300 pips down on my Average Entry and only taking 5% risk on 1 pair. And this is not the best I can do, but I think its good enough for now. The rest is patience.. I have AU short open from 25 March.. big DD and its hard to keep it open, but I know I´m right, it is just a matter of time. Im trading live account, not playing...
Hello guys, there is no need to fight about each others approach. we are all in the same team remember? Team Sonic!!!! The winning team

But I am guessing that Prof TAH and Master Sonic would prefer a consistent approach for all of the postings on this thread. But I think that they would need to accommodate quality postings (of PVSRA position scouts) from experts like Loeil, JRSA, qFish etc who have mastered the art of using PVSRA to predict the minds of MMs.

Thanks all
  • #70,969
  • May 9, 2014 4:17am May 9, 2014 4:17am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} AUDUSD: There is now a 1st wave leg up thru the Dragon, and a complete though less desirable wave if you start with the previous move up that did not go thru the Dragon. However, this could turn out to be a 1st retrace in a new trend down. It might be best to wait and see what happens with this move up and with the USD release later. -tah {image}
Makes perfect sense, thanks Prof
  • #70,970
  • May 9, 2014 4:17am May 9, 2014 4:17am
AUD/USD start long classic

4h, 1H dragons UP
i saw some volume below big numbers.

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  • #70,971
  • May 9, 2014 4:20am May 9, 2014 4:20am
Quoting loeil
{quote} EU - closed for 2970 pips gain {image}

Grats!

I had plus minus same build, but on the TOP it hitted my SL if i had 10 pips greater SL, it will be good trade probably as yours. Im jealous ))
  • #70,972
  • May 9, 2014 4:27am May 9, 2014 4:27am
Sonic R. System, Classics, Scouts, PVSRA, and Position Building

Sonicers,

Here it is in a nutshell, the history and the concluding recommendation.

The Sonic R. System is the Classic trade. In 2012 Master Sonicdeejay introduced a trade termed "Scout" intended to take advantage of reversal moves that could follow a strong move terminating in high volume, but some PA confirming a reversal move (such as sequence of HLs) must first occur. PVSRA came in 2013, and with it came "free flying" Scouts (almost any trade opportunity that PVSRA seemed to support). And with it too, came position building, which in reality was the by-product of Scout after Scout after Scout, while PA went in the wrong direction!

And to this, Master Sonicdeejay exhorted, "Why not build when price is moving your trade in the trade direction?", which you have to admit is a shit load of wisdom in one sentence!

However, a lesson learned from PVSRA is just how prolific are the robber banks in whipping and whacking prices to stop out "right side" trades. No matter how good a Classic setup looks, it has nothing to do with whether or not the robber banks are going to play games with prices before allowing the trade to progress. We have to accept this and be prepared to "hold or fold" our trade when the robber banks whip and whack prices following our entry. That decision can be made easier by having done a proper PVSRA.

So, back to Scouts. We use Scouts to build our trade when our trade is "green", before and after any whips and whacks, but not during them when the trade is "red" because we cannot know how price will move next.

Hope this summary helps each of you with your trading, and reminds you of the type of trades most desired to be posted here so as to make this thread a better text book of the Sonic R. System. If you are appreciative of what you gain from this thread, please support the goal of the thread.

-tah
  • #70,973
  • May 9, 2014 4:30am May 9, 2014 4:30am
Quoting JRissa
EC & UC Started short trades. {image} {image}
EC & UC & AC profits taken. Too soon it seems... Still, profit is profit
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I know the secret...
  • #70,974
  • May 9, 2014 4:31am May 9, 2014 4:31am
Quoting JRissa
EA & GA Started short {image} {image}
EA & GA profits taken. Propably too soon too, but I have no time to be on screen for some time now.
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  • #70,975
  • May 9, 2014 4:33am May 9, 2014 4:33am
Quoting JRissa
{quote} NZDUSD Closed short and currently re-building short again Still I'm counting on next deeper down move {image}
NU profits taken.
Closing this one too as I have no time to monitor.
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  • #70,976
  • May 9, 2014 4:40am May 9, 2014 4:40am
Quoting JRissa
{quote} I'm waiting for rewersal "little" lower (my TP) Check out current monthly candle Ofcourse it can still change, but now things look nice... Older chart repost as I'm now on iPhone and can only copy/paste as "paint" got upgraded and I can't edit mobile mt4 charts anymore... {image}
AU
Took profits earlier, cause I too saw bulls taking temporarily control.
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Now starting short again EP #1 early Classic Sonic R entry
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Longer term position building hopefully... Reasons; monthly chart +PVSRA on timeframes 4h to 1m and 1h as example here:
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  • #70,977
  • May 9, 2014 4:43am May 9, 2014 4:43am
uchf long
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Dragon the best Indicator
  • #70,978
  • May 9, 2014 4:44am May 9, 2014 4:44am
eu short
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Dragon the best Indicator
  • #70,979
  • May 9, 2014 4:50am May 9, 2014 4:50am
Quoting loeil
{quote} EU - closed for 2970 pips gain {image}
the power of money management
  • #70,980
  • May 9, 2014 4:52am May 9, 2014 4:52am
Quoting traderathome
Sonic R. System, Classics, Scouts, PVSRA, and Position Building Sonicers, Here it is in a nutshell,.......... We use Scouts to build our trade when our trade is "green", before and after any whips and whacks, but not during them when the trade is "red" because we cannot know how price will move next....... -tah

No disrespect but,

This is interesting TAH, because i see most of the Sonic pro's adding scouts when in the "red". Then adding more as it goes against them even further.
Eventually profiting.

Humbly Yours,
Allisonmagic
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