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  • #70,441
  • Edited 8:58am May 4, 2014 8:00am | Edited 8:58am
Quoting ultrameg
{quote} Hi, Wang Xun. I am using the latest version. For MT4, I am using version 4 Build 625. Regards, ultrameg
ultrameg,

FYI, I installed the Sonic 2014 indicators and templates on the initial release date. I have been running these on the systems listed below every trading day non-stop with no issues whatsoever. I primarily scalp, so I require fast executions and usually make several trades each and every trading day with multiple charts open on each system and have never experienced hangs or lagging problems. ie., I traded Fridays NFP, with the extremely high volume and my trades were executed in milliseconds (extremely fast just guessing). My point being, based on my personal experience, your problem lies elsewhere and is not Sonic indicator related.

I am running 3 computers each with 8 gigs of RAM; 2 with windows 7 and one with windows 8.1 supporting 4 - 27" monitors and trading with MT4 Ver 4, Build 646, Dated 30 Apr 2014.

Not sure if any of the above will be of any help to you, but considering that you are probably troubleshooting and using the process of elimination, I thought this post might help you move forward from a Sonic indicator problem to one associated with your broker/system or software conflict.

Good Luck and Regards,
Cigarguy
Keep It Simple
  • #70,442
  • May 4, 2014 8:03am May 4, 2014 8:03am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} alf909, A non-English reader that comes here is going to have great difficulty because the many instructions given and questions answered in our written material, will not be read. I suggest you find an interpreter to read everything to you and help you to get set up. Maybe some bilingual person can prepare a document that covers everything, but written in Russian, and submit it for inclusion in our Post #1. There is a lot of information to cover, so it would be no easy task. -tah
Related I understand everything, I asked for help to configure for access panel, for that would have helped me a translator, I have to teach him the first forex
  • #70,443
  • May 4, 2014 8:12am May 4, 2014 8:12am
Quoting cigarguy
{quote} ultrameg, FYI, I installed the Sonic 2014 indicators and templates on the initial release date. I have been running these on the systems listed below every trading day non-stop with no issues whatsoever. I primarily scalp, so I require fast executions and usually make several trades each and every trading day with multiple charts open on each system and have never experienced hangs or lagging problems. ie., I traded Fridays NFP, with the extremely high volume and my trades were executed in milliseconds (extremely fast just guessing). My...
Hi, cigarguy.

Thanks for the cue. Still troubleshooting with no fruitful outcome.
I'm using MT4 Ver 4 Build 646 now.
Hardware Corei5 4 Gb RAM Windows 7

Anyone happen to use Axitrader and face any issue?

Thanks and Regards,
ultrameg
  • #70,444
  • Edited 9:31am May 4, 2014 8:32am | Edited 9:31am
Quoting ultrameg
{quote} Hi, cigarguy. Thanks for the cue. Still troubleshooting with no fruitful outcome. I'm using MT4 Ver 4 Build 646 now. Hardware Corei5 4 Gb RAM Windows 7 Anyone happen to use Axitrader and face any issue? Thanks and Regards, ultrameg
ultrameg,

Hope you find the problem. As far as Brokers; I have had multiple accounts with IBFX and currently have one with FXCM and TradersWay. I have found TradersWay, MT4 ECN to be extremely fast and and reliable with no slippage . I pay a flat commission per trade and have had no problems with deposits or withdrawals. I am a Broker Partner and because this is not a commercial thread, I will refrain from any specifics. You can visit their site if you wish and try a demo first to see if it works for you. If you would like specifics, PM and I will not promote any broker but will share my personal experiences only.

Good Luck and Regards,
Cigarguy
Keep It Simple
  • #70,445
  • May 4, 2014 8:35am May 4, 2014 8:35am
Carlicus and tah, please stop fighting You are both right! The problem lies in how you define pip. If you define pip as the distance traveled by price, Carlicus is correct. If you define pip by the amount gained or loss, tah is correct. My sincere apologies for creating disharmony on this thread.

Carlicus and tah, please kiss and make up
My Threads: Trading is as simple as 1-2-3, Highest Open / Lowest Open Trade
  • #70,446
  • Edited 9:23am May 4, 2014 8:45am | Edited 9:23am
Quoting Repsaj
{quote} Hi dedicated, Who is Respez? I guess I am . I do not see your chart. What is bcz? (Broker?) Otherwise we are, you and I totally agree. So I think there will be a significant retracement, as the main option, but do not rule out other options. That tells me the H4 chart. My bullish sentiment is at TF daily, long term. My immediate feeling would be bearish, just like you. Hope is better understood as well. You and I think alike; that the price will go down, without ruling out other possibilities illustrated in the previous post. In my thinking,...
Repsaj,

You did explain well and I agree with your bullish analysis. I was just commenting based on my opinion indicated on the GBPJPY M15 chart. You always say that you don't explain well. IMO, you do explain well!

Regards,
Cigarguy
Keep It Simple
  • #70,447
  • May 4, 2014 11:03am May 4, 2014 11:03am
Quoting ultrameg
{quote} Hi...

Obviously no one want to tell you the truth...So you must give up on something:

either give up on indicators provided in this thread or

give up on asking same question thousands times.
The Market pays you to be disciplined
  • #70,448
  • May 4, 2014 1:05pm May 4, 2014 1:05pm
Quoting TooSlow
{quote} Hello FXRobert. Your entries on your chart don't appear to correspond with the analysis presented, IMHO. What exactly initiated your first short trade after price had dropped? The second and third entries at the levels appear early as price continued against you. Please tell me what I am missing... I am TooSlow. P.S. Hopefully, this is not taken in the wrong way.
Hi TooSlow.
Here
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...52#post7443052
I write H1 it's time for me add first sell order.
The best place for me. I write few weekly ago I test my strategy with analyse Sonic Clasic and Scouts.
Someting like loeil. His has individual strategy.
One of main rules :I look by change the behaviour of the market.
It's the work every TF. I like it.
On H1 it is.
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My first order was Clasic M5.
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Than I start build scouts with sellimit.
Where we are today? Price near TL and I write about it.
I still talk GJ for me is Down.
Why I close my orders?
I always save my money!
Now is possible price up.
At the moment is neutral for me
  • #70,449
  • May 4, 2014 1:44pm May 4, 2014 1:44pm
Quoting FXRobert
{quote} Hi TooSlow. Here http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...52#post7443052 I write H1 it's time for me add first sell order. The best place for me. I write few weekly ago I test my strategy with analyse Sonic Clasic and Scouts. Someting like loeil. His has individual strategy. One of main rules :I look by change the behaviour of the market. It's the work every TF. I like it. On H1 it is. {image} My first order was Clasic M5. {image} Than I start...
Thank you, FXRobert for your detailed explanation. It lists exactly what you did and the reasons. Very illustrative.
My Threads: Trading is as simple as 1-2-3, Highest Open / Lowest Open Trade
  • #70,450
  • May 4, 2014 2:44pm May 4, 2014 2:44pm
Quoting FXRobert
{quote} Hi TooSlow. Here http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...52#post7443052 I write H1 it's time for me add first sell order. The best place for me. I write few weekly ago I test my strategy with analyse Sonic Clasic and Scouts. Someting like loeil. His has individual strategy. One of main rules :I look by change the behaviour of the market. It's the work every TF. I like it. On H1 it is. {image} My first order was Clasic M5. {image} Than I start...
GJ - to me it seems bearish too.

Last friday we got nice rejection from 173.50 area and just right after that strong bearish reaction. The only thing what is little bit unclear to me is the volume on down bar. The volume seems too high for normal bearish run.
On H1 chart we see big down bar on high volume and after that immediately bullish action. There is also support area, some bullish action is normal, but how strong bulls there are, too soon to tell.

Anyway I hold my shorts.
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Whatever is obvious is obviously wrong!"
  • #70,451
  • Edited 3:14pm May 4, 2014 3:04pm | Edited 3:14pm
Quoting loeil
{quote} GJ - to me it seems bearish too. Last friday we got nice rejection from 173.50 area and just right after that strong bearish reaction. The only thing what is little bit unclear to me is the volume on down bar. The volume seems too high for normal bearish run. On H1 chart we see big down bar on high volume and after that immediately bullish action. There is also support area, some bullish action is normal, but how strong bulls there are, too soon to tell. Anyway I hold my shorts. {image} {image}
Totally agree with you, loiel. I, having less security have proposed more scenarios, but the main scene, to me, is what you tell here. I also have doubts in the range / volume ratio of the candles. We'll see what happens.

Nice lesson for those who want to learn.
Check your emotions. How are you?
  • #70,452
  • May 4, 2014 3:46pm May 4, 2014 3:46pm
Quoting loeil
{quote} GJ - to me it seems bearish too. Last friday we got nice rejection from 173.50 area and just right after that strong bearish reaction. The only thing what is little bit unclear to me is the volume on down bar. The volume seems too high for normal bearish run. On H1 chart we see big down bar on high volume and after that immediately bullish action. There is also support area, some bullish action is normal, but how strong bulls there are, too soon to tell. Anyway I hold my shorts. {image} {image}
I agree with You.
I close sell Why? -> "The only thing what is little bit unclear to me is the volume on down bar.The volume seems too high for normal bearish run."
I wait.
  • #70,453
  • Edited 5:21pm May 4, 2014 4:03pm | Edited 5:21pm
Quoting TooSlow
{quote} No disrespect intended, but you could automate this and have a user override. Have default of 0 and code the indicator to get the lot size. A few new lines of code at most. If user enters 1, 2 or 3 code works like before. Existing Code changes: // 0 = automatic lot size retrieval extern int Show_Micro_Mini_Full_123 = 0; if(Show_Micro_Mini_Full_123 <1 || Show_Micro_Mini_Full_123 >3) {Show_Micro_Mini_Full_123 = 0;} New Code: / / get lot size RefreshRates(); double MODELOTSIZE = MarketInfo(symbol,MODE_LOTSIZE) ;
Quoting TooSlow
Carlicus and tah, please stop fighting You are both right! The problem lies in how you define pip. If you define pip as the distance traveled by price, Carlicus is correct. If you define pip by the amount gained or loss, tah is correct. My sincere apologies for creating disharmony on this thread. Carlicus and tah, please kiss and make up
To TooSlow,

This is what comes of someone posting as fact, what in fact is only their grossly uniformed opinion.

As regards the subject indicator, pips are defined as chart pips distance between EP and CP, or weighted average EPs to CPs in the case of varying numbers of units traded at the EPs. Not only have I stated this multiple times already this weekend, but this is clearly stated in the User Notes. So, TooSlow, I am appalled that you could make such an erroneous statement about the indicator after all that has been documented here about it!

Also as regards this indicator, the very second External Input takes care of assigning the unit type for the indicator computations. To implement the privacy feature, it is necessary to make this input manually instead of automatically detecting it. This way, no viewer of a post can determine the unit size the user has manually input, and the indicator can nevertheless handle any unit entry by factoring it to a multiple of the selected input. This too is explained in the User Notes which you obviously have not yet read to the point of understanding!

You have shown that you have not done your homework, and I am wondering now if you are flagrantly disregarding doing so, which is grounds to terminate your posting privilege. Take this as a warning, TooSlow. From Post #1:
"Your posts should be evidence that you have satisfactorily completed your "homework" here. If not, you will be instructed to change. If you do not, you will be expelled."


To All Sonicers,

Frankly, the larger this thread becomes, the more quickly I lose patience with folks that refuse to do their Post #1 homework and clutter this text book thread with misinformation and other garbage that the sincere and diligent Sonicers to have to wade thru, and that I have to respond to in order to uphold the integrity of this thread,......to keep it from becoming like so many other Forex Factory threads that are nothing but a waste of time compilation of uniformed opinions, misinformation and downright idiotic statements of no real help to any real trader that is seriously trying to improve!

That will not happen here so long as Master Sonicdeejay has anything to say about it! Soon, folks will simply be quickly expelled to avoid the necessity to respond to a litany of their nonsense that stems from their evident lack of preparation. All Sonciers, please take note of this. We are on a serious journey. Anyone not taking it seriously does not belong here.

-tah
  • #70,454
  • May 4, 2014 6:21pm May 4, 2014 6:21pm
This is why I'm starting to look for short in smaller TF. (Besides others signs of weakness mentioned here before)
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  • #70,455
  • May 4, 2014 7:12pm May 4, 2014 7:12pm
Quoting sherdog
This is why I'm starting to look for short in smaller TF. (Besides others signs of weakness mentioned here before) {image}
Hi Cigarguy, check your Private Messages, please.
Check your emotions. How are you?
  • #70,456
  • May 4, 2014 7:18pm May 4, 2014 7:18pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} {quote} To TooSlow, To All Sonicers, Frankly, the larger this thread becomes, the more quickly I lose patience with folks that refuse to do their Post #1 homework and clutter this text book thread with misinformation and other garbage that the sincere and diligent Sonicers to have to wade thru, and that I have to respond to in order to uphold the integrity of this thread,......to keep it from becoming like so many other Forex Factory threads that are nothing but a waste of time compilation of uniformed opinions, misinformation and downright...
I m fairly new here so i typically try to just keep my mouth shut because i know that most of what i have to add can be much better articulated by the senior members who have been around awhile. The reason for this is too not clutter up the thread with endless non sense that is completely unrelated to the actual "blood and guts" of the Sonic R system. This non sense is a great deterrent to the new or failing trader who stumbles across this thread looking for answers pertaining to being truly profitable. if i had to weed through 30+ posts of bullshit to get to the one post i needed to see, then im afraid i would have moved along and would have never known how close i had come to "truth" about the markets and i would needlessly have suffered more agonizing defeat at the hands of these scumbags. THIS CANNOT BE ALLOWED....

All of us that are here have been given a gift whether we realize it or not and we have an obligation to maintain this safe place for the tired and weary trader who is just one more loss away from giving up his hopes and dreams.
There are those whom i have seen in my short time here that have a another purpose..... and it is to disrupt,corrupt, and otherwise make useless this amazing place of refuge. Just as it should be OUR duty to defend what we have, they feel it is their duty to tear it down. It should not only be left up to TAH to stop these attacks.... we should all help out and make this place clear, clean, and concise for the next trader who so desperately needs it. From this point forward those who feel that this thread has helped them realize their true potential as a trader should make a pledge to step up and defend the vision of the Sonic R system thread. I myself will do what i can to help any way i can.... even if most of the time that means i just keep my mouth shut.
Thanks Tah
  • #70,457
  • May 4, 2014 7:37pm May 4, 2014 7:37pm
Here's a thread related question you guys might or might not know.. i'm pretty sure it came up in the manual several times but no explanation as to why it happens. These technical levels, whole, half, quarter numbers.. support and resistance.. what makes these greedy monkeys bring price to these levels and since they are manipulating the market, why do they even care about support or resistance levels ? might be a stupid question but i didn't see any follow through to this in the manuals.

Humbly Yours,

Allisonmagic
  • #70,458
  • May 4, 2014 7:44pm May 4, 2014 7:44pm
Quoting billko1977
{quote} I m fairly new here so i typically try to just keep my mouth shut because i know that most of what i have to add can be much better articulated by the senior members who have been around awhile. The reason for this is too not clutter up the thread with endless non sense that is completely unrelated to the actual "blood and guts" of the Sonic R system. This non sense is a great deterrent to the new or failing trader who stumbles across this thread looking for answers pertaining to being truly profitable. if i had to weed through 30+ posts...
Another Knight Arrives!

Just when I couldn't feel more down and anguished at the task ahead.....

-tah
  • #70,459
  • May 4, 2014 7:51pm May 4, 2014 7:51pm
Quoting allisonmagic
Here's a thread related question you guys might or might not know.. i'm pretty sure it came up in the manual several times but no explanation as to why it happens. These technical levels, whole, half, quarter numbers.. support and resistance.. what makes these greedy monkeys bring price to these levels and since they are manipulating the market, why do they even care about support or resistance levels ? might be a stupid question but i didn't see any follow through to this in the manuals. Humbly Yours, Allisonmagic
I do not know if you questions is why round numbers. Somewhere I read that it is part of human psychology and the history of acquired habits. It seems that the human brain tends to round. Thus began and so it has been preserved. I do not know how much truth there is in this matter.
Check your emotions. How are you?
  • #70,460
  • Edited 8:24pm May 4, 2014 7:55pm | Edited 8:24pm
Quoting allisonmagic
Here's a thread related question you guys might or might not know.. i'm pretty sure it came up in the manual several times but no explanation as to why it happens. These technical levels, whole, half, quarter numbers.. support and resistance.. what makes these greedy monkeys bring price to these levels and since they are manipulating the market, why do they even care about support or resistance levels ? might be a stupid question but i didn't see any follow through to this in the manuals. Humbly Yours, Allisonmagic
The History of "Levels"

In the days of empire building by the British and the expanding business of insurance (Lloyds of London), the British manner of pricing things such as insurance agreements and the gambling bets on the risks of voyages and on commodities and of other matters, established convenient pricing levels as a matter of habit. The popularity of these Levels: 0, 25, 50, 75 and 100, is as ingrained and natural now to all of trading as is the heart beat to the human body, thanks to the British Empire and it's robber banks. Psychologically induced? Perhaps, but it was the British robber banks and their domination of trading that ingrained the importance of these convenient currency levels into traders, and which has been carried on since.

-tah
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