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  • #69,281
  • Apr 19, 2014 11:51am Apr 19, 2014 11:51am
Quoting allisonmagic
Ok here is a huge reason that made me want to be a Sonicer.. Master Sonic, and TAH, now i know what you mean.. almost %80 bank controlled Sorry if my post isn't very important, i just wanted to show this average i found on wikipedia {image}
im assuming the other 19% are hedge funds and the 1% us traders..lol
YOUR MOTHERS ASS
  • #69,282
  • Apr 19, 2014 2:05pm Apr 19, 2014 2:05pm
Quoting santos23
{quote} im assuming the other 19% are hedge funds and the 1% us traders..lol

Don't forget the high net worth individuals. Some of the high net guys i've met do their own trading.. the others have people managing capital for them. If i ever get rich i'll have Master Sonic mange my money
  • #69,283
  • Apr 19, 2014 2:38pm Apr 19, 2014 2:38pm
Quoting cigarguy
{quote} TAH, Did you enter these from the 15m, after analyzing top down? Just curious!
cigarguy,

It is my custom to provide the go-back links so folks with questions about entries can probably get the answers. I recommend (wish that) everyone would do the same, as it adds educational value to this thread, whether the trades end up profitable or not.

-tah
  • #69,284
  • Edited 2:53pm Apr 19, 2014 2:39pm | Edited 2:53pm
Quoting Alpha MY
After a while.. I am just wondering if the volume used as the base of the indicator's calculations are the whole forex world's volume (including the big boys etc.) or just the combined brokers' volume ?
SonicR PVA Volumes

Post #1 and linked material has all answers, but I will make this simple. The volume data sent to retail traders via the broker's platform (MT4, etc.) is only the count of trades executed per/during any time frame. It is, therefore, only the volume of trades/orders executed by the broker. It has nothing to do with the amount of currency involved in these orders, nor does it include data from other brokers or liquidity providing banks. It is not market wide volume as in the stock market.

Is it of any use? Yes! Even a count of the orders executed by any single broker can show where there is a sudden change or an increasing trend in the count of orders being executed, showing where the greater interest price areas are located. When comparing volume displays across multiple brokers, the same dips/peaks tend to appear, even if the overall average volumes of brokers differ. We can use this information reliably, so long as we use it in the right way.

-tah
  • #69,285
  • Apr 20, 2014 8:08am Apr 20, 2014 8:08am
Quoting traderathome
.. The volume data sent to retail traders via the broker's platform (MT4, etc.) is only the count of trades executed per/during any time frame....-tah

I use esignal as a reference for volume and compare MT4 volume...most of them are very close also volume bars among brokers don't look similar because of timezone /brokers time ... I do not believe that broker modify data (volume) got from providers and just give volume of its retail traders ...NO.
In comparison with futures volume for forex ...volume bars look very similar ...similar enough to do analysis.

Result of volume analysis regardless how much MT4 volume is close to providers volume exclusively depends on trader's interpretation...losers will always look to blame someone or something for their loses.
There is a winner and a loser, nothing in between.
  • #69,286
  • Apr 20, 2014 11:54am Apr 20, 2014 11:54am
Quoting Repsaj
{quote} If you ask if here is "classic setup" - is possible, but we're not at the right time for that (London session), {image}
And the Classic setup occurred during the London session. Although, at the moment only about 30-40 pips earned reward (similar to what happened to GBPJPY).
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Check your emotions. How are you?
  • #69,287
  • Apr 20, 2014 12:26pm Apr 20, 2014 12:26pm
Quoting Repsaj
{quote} Truly I tell you if I did "buy" on the yen pairs, not thinking it was going against the MMs. I thought that the MMs were bullish. Maybe I was wrong. What I do not understand and I do not see is that in the last days have been bearish signals, at least in the GBPJPY. And I would like to understand and improve my trading. Could you clarify these signals bearish of MMs; would be of great help to me. Thank you. {image} {image}
Signs announcing reverse worked this time
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  • #69,288
  • Apr 20, 2014 1:11pm Apr 20, 2014 1:11pm
Quoting Repsaj
AUDJPY scouts long PVSRA {image}
The scouts worked, but was highly leveraged, so I chickened out and closed my scouts, losing.
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  • #69,289
  • Edited 3:58pm Apr 20, 2014 3:08pm | Edited 3:58pm
Quoting Repsaj
{quote} The scouts worked, but was highly leveraged, so I chickened out and closed my scouts, losing. {image}
Repsaj,

Please use the SonicR Trade Levels indicator when posting trades, so Sonicers can more easily and quickly comprehend the trade, otherwise the posting of a trade has no educational benefit to Sonicers, only to the poster, which is not the purpose of this thread.

Many Thanks,
-tah
  • #69,290
  • Apr 20, 2014 3:11pm Apr 20, 2014 3:11pm
Quoting traderathome
SonicR PVA Volumes -tah
Thanks TAH
  • #69,291
  • Edited 4:09pm Apr 20, 2014 3:51pm | Edited 4:09pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} Repsaj, Please use the SonicR Trade Levels indicator. -tah
I'm using trade levels but did not work at the moment; do not know if because the trades closed on the 15th.
I hope the following correction chart from Metatrader, is useful.
It is clear that I got carried away by fear and just when I closed the trades should open them; the price shift in the round number 95,000.
Furthermore all trades are in my trade explorer, that is public.
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  • #69,292
  • Edited 5:03pm Apr 20, 2014 4:29pm | Edited 5:03pm
Where Should Sonicer's Entries Be?

Sonicers,

Here is a reminder for this new week......

The Sonic R. System is based on the Classic trade, well described in the manual linked in Post #1. The Scout trade, introduced by Master Sonicdeejay in 2012 is intended as a compliment to the Classic trade, adding to a trade when the price is moving in the direction of the trade. This can occur under two conditions: (1) the trade proceeds in the correct direction from the start, providing opportunities for Scout entries after retraces along the price movement, or (2) sometime after entry the price moves in the wrong direction beyond entry and then reverts back to the trade direction, after which (and with PVSRA confirmation) a Scout might be added.

Master Sonicdeejay says to add to a trade while price is moving in the direction of the trade and the trade is "in the green". If price moves against your trade, taking price in the wrong direction past your entry, do not add to the trade until price action reverts back to the trade direction and shows some signs of continuing to do so. Do not add to a trade while price action remains opposite the trade and the trade is "in the red".

Our PVSRA is intended to help qualify Classic and Scout trades, and should be used for that purpose only. Do not use PVSRA as a trade entry method to pick tops/bottoms or to make an "early" Classic or Scout trade entry. Use PVSRA to determine as best you can if the bias of the MMs confirms the direction of a Classic or Scout entry you are thinking of making. If it does, still only enter a Classic in accord with the rules for the Classic setup, and only enter a Scout when the price action direction is in the trade direction.

-tah
  • #69,293
  • Apr 20, 2014 4:51pm Apr 20, 2014 4:51pm
aaahhh tats the spirit chieff , dass the spiritt . why i keep hearing hedge hog , some thing wrong with ff audio connection .
  • #69,294
  • Edited 5:49pm Apr 20, 2014 4:51pm | Edited 5:49pm
Marauding Manipulators! Be Warned!

Sonicers,

Here is another reminder as we start a new week....

The early part of the week is frequently used by the MMs to reposition prices to favor their accumulation of orders that will yield future profits based on planned future moves. Sometimes these early week price manipulations are suitable for the Sonic R. System, generating Classic trades of modest profits, but we must be careful to see the bigger picture as to what might happen later in the week.

We cannot know how the price will move, so obviously we cannot predict what might happen later. We can however, acknowledge this occasion for price manipulation as one of the strategies the MMs frequently use, and as Master Sonicdeejay says, "...watch like a hawk..." any early week Classic trade.

For example, look at AJ on H4, where we have a clear PVSRA indication the MMs might now be bears, followed by subsequent PA trips back up to the whole number area,...where price repeatedly failed (due to MMs accumulating short orders?). And now, at the open of this new week, look at M15, where we can see the MMs starting the week off pushing the price upwards. This upwards push might present a Classic long trade. We have to wait for the London session to see. If a Classic long setup occurs, and we enter long, then we have to be aware that the move might only be a manipulation by the MMs to get the price higher for more accumulation of shorts. Hence, we have to "...watch like a hawk..." such a long trade.

-tah
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  • #69,295
  • Apr 20, 2014 7:35pm Apr 20, 2014 7:35pm
Quoting Repsaj
{quote} It seems that Classic has worked if only for about 30 pips, we will see if it makes more pips. {image}
GBP/JPY

looks like it did make more pips Asian session, Monday
  • #69,296
  • Apr 20, 2014 7:41pm Apr 20, 2014 7:41pm
GbpJpy

Be patience...
Pump & Dump around quarter numbers...
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  • #69,297
  • Apr 20, 2014 7:44pm Apr 20, 2014 7:44pm
testing this system with my demo.. loaded some scouts, 4h and daily showing a bull run so i dropped to a 15, saw a heavy drop in price below a half number, volume was limited afterward, so i figured some lonely MMs looking for a good price.hope i'm doing this right, if not thank god it's a demo and i have you guys to tell me i'm an idiot
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  • #69,298
  • Apr 20, 2014 8:26pm Apr 20, 2014 8:26pm
Quoting AdrianC
GbpJpy Be patience... Pump & Dump around quarter numbers... {image}
Resistance around 172.5x, and last week price closed higher every single day, be careful at shorting this moment. IMHO
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  • #69,299
  • Apr 20, 2014 8:32pm Apr 20, 2014 8:32pm
Quoting feinan
{quote} Resistance around 172.5x, and last week price closed higher every single day, be careful at shorting this moment. IMHO {image}
That's why I say be patience. Pump & Dump is a good sign.
  • #69,300
  • Apr 20, 2014 8:42pm Apr 20, 2014 8:42pm
Quoting allisonmagic
testing this system with my demo.. loaded some scouts, 4h and daily showing a bull run so i dropped to a 15, saw a heavy drop in price below a half number, volume was limited afterward, so i figured some lonely MMs looking for a good price.hope i'm doing this right, if not thank god it's a demo and i have you guys to tell me i'm an idiot

went ahead and took profit at R1, it was a good run but these guys are getting a little order happy. plus it's not even the LO yet. i'll let it correct a bit more and see what it does later. still learning !

EDIT: forgot to mention.. low volume at DR1, not too many buyers at this level. another reason to chill
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