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  • #69,221
  • Apr 17, 2014 11:11pm Apr 17, 2014 11:11pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} {quote} {quote} Chris, You obviously have not read the material, because the use of the candle colors is clearly spelled out in material you are obligated to read. Shame on you! -tah
Dear TAH

What I meant was I had read the materials after your reminder, please don't misunderstand, thanks.

Chris
Trading is not easy
  • #69,222
  • Apr 17, 2014 11:23pm Apr 17, 2014 11:23pm
Quoting loeil
{quote} EJ - closed for 2607 pips gain {image}
Hi loeil,

Are the blue lines all the trades you opened?

Regards,
Chris
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  • #69,223
  • Edited 11:53pm Apr 17, 2014 11:28pm | Edited 11:53pm
Quoting xiaotiao
{quote} Dear TAH What I meant was I had read the materials after your reminder, please don't misunderstand, thanks. Chris
xiaotiao,

Excellent!

I'm not here to crack knuckles with anyone. I am here to improve in the application of the Sonic R. System and to share what I learn as I improve. I would rather spend my time reflecting, improving self-discipline, improving trading and sharing analysis, than to spend it answering the same questions over and over.

I would like to see this thread evolve to where every post on this thread would be ideal, a properly informative and educational post fit to be part of a proper text book for this Sonic R. System of trading. I doubt that will ever happen, but it is still something I work at. And I just wish everyone that arrives here would slow down, read Post #1 and all the critical material linked in Post #1, and then just watch, listen and learn from the posts of others instead of asking questions already answered. I just wish everyone that arrives here would do more thinking and less asking, and perhaps see the same vision I see, so that we could all be on the same page.....and not needlessly add to the pages of this text book.

I apologize for harshness. Some need it. Maybe you did not. I hope you understand.

Sincerely,
-tah
  • #69,224
  • Apr 17, 2014 11:36pm Apr 17, 2014 11:36pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} xiaotiao, Excellent! I'm not here to crack knuckles with anyone. I am here to improve in the application of the Sonic R. System and to share what I learn as I improve. I would rather spend my time reflecting, improving self-discipline, improving trading and sharing analysis, than to spend it answering the same questions over and over. I wold like to see this thread evolve to where every post on this thread would be ideal, a properly informative and educational post fit to be part of a proper text book for this Sonic R. System of...

Thanks TAH, I also had done my reflections, will put in more efforts and times to do homework, cheers

Regards,
Chris
Trading is not easy
  • #69,225
  • Apr 18, 2014 12:28am Apr 18, 2014 12:28am
Quoting xiaotiao
{quote} Hi loeil, Are the blue lines all the trades you opened? Regards, Chris {image}
blue line = in the profit region, red line = in the losing region.
the dot is where the position is opened.

hope it helps.
  • #69,226
  • Apr 18, 2014 2:27am Apr 18, 2014 2:27am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} allisonmagic, I have had you on "Ignore" for a very long time. I just saw that you again posted here after such a long time. I was curious, so I took a look at this post of yours..... Boy! What a surprise! I have to say that you have distinguished yourself. I cannot remember another person that has has the humility, wisdom and guts to convert like you have. Frankly, I am almost in tears over the ways this thread reaches out to folks, and here and there sometimes something remarkable happens. Welcome back! -tah

Thank you so much TAH. I wish i had the better sense to listen to you guys over the years. I haven't given appreciation to those who really count. I've been a fool and i'm willing to listen to everything you guys have to teach.
  • #69,227
  • Apr 18, 2014 2:52am Apr 18, 2014 2:52am
EU - long.

Nice clue of buying on the chart.
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Whatever is obvious is obviously wrong!"
  • #69,228
  • Apr 18, 2014 2:56am Apr 18, 2014 2:56am
Quoting loeil
EU - long. Nice clue of buying on the chart. {image}
But isn't that high selling volume??..I can see it is, so am curious why you would go long?
Also dragon is below trend both showing down
And if you look at the daily yesterday we had a bear pintail bar form which is according to the secret of sonic r a time to look for classic shorts..
  • #69,229
  • Edited 3:47am Apr 18, 2014 3:29am | Edited 3:47am
Just correcting the picture that , your dad have not teach your mom .

Quoting traderathome
{quote} All I see is a child's scribble. Tell me, did your mommy help you with the big words? {image}
  • #69,230
  • Edited 3:38pm Apr 18, 2014 3:46am | Edited 3:38pm
Quoting SaiLyfee
{quote} But isn't that high selling volume??..I can see it is, so am curious why you would go long? Also dragon is below trend both showing down And if you look at the daily yesterday we had a bear pintail bar form which is according to the secret of sonic r a time to look for classic shorts..
The daily candle not indicate bear, but indicate bull or indecision, because it is on an area of ​​support.
In my opinion, there could be an upward retrace. And then the price would drop in a third wave of the same degree as the first.
Therefore I am bearish, for now, for this pair.
These are imaginary scenarios that have nothing to do with reality. But to help me trace my possible plans.
Naturally, this is most important, the market will do whatever he wants.
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Check your emotions. How are you?
  • #69,231
  • Apr 18, 2014 4:33am Apr 18, 2014 4:33am
is these what it is ? no charts police here man , you can name any shitee , sell any crap , @ least show the people you decentcy of knowing what you talking of . 2 , everaging is not the way to trade if you dont know which " wave " to ride . sure now days the market just like a puppy moving 1k each side with small series of retracement , pull back , meaning full correction but when it back to it course , everaging willbe pretty hard to make . just 2 cents Cheers
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  • #69,232
  • Edited 8:25am Apr 18, 2014 6:14am | Edited 8:25am
GBPJPY,

Decided to close my beast scouts early for only +16.7, standard acct. (was sleeping when it hit the demand zone or could have closed a bit earlier) As observed earlier by TAH, MM's have been pushing price over the round number and then whacking it back down accumulating shorts with some BS stop hunting ( notice those wicks ). I feel the Geppy has a lot more down side potential, although the MM's will probably continue to run it above the whole number sucking in longs and whack down for awhile. We all know the extreme and violent moves this puppy can make. It's Good Friday, and the wrong day for me to baby sit. Happy Easter and God Bless To All

Update; Talk about whipping and whacking, check out the 1m chart. Good luck to indicator dependent traders!
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Keep It Simple
  • #69,233
  • Apr 18, 2014 6:52am Apr 18, 2014 6:52am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} NZDUSD: qFish, Why long? H4, H1, M15.....all show trending down, Dragon angled down and even the Trend angled down. Except for H4, the Dragon is now below the Trend. And the way it looks, that will soon be the case on H4, too. On M15 there are many "notable" spikes and retraces back up thru the 1/4, whole number and now the next lower 3/4 number, PVSRA indications the MMs are bears accumulating short orders, some of which are marked in the attached pic. I do not understand why you are choosing to enter a long trade. -tah {image}...
You answered your own question Tah. H4 is absolutely the only reason I made this trade. It was a good position in terms of where H4 relative to the daily. I do beleive things are turning south, but "soon" might be more appropriate for the Daily or weekly charts. Most of my decisions are from H4, and anything lower would be for entry. I just don't have the time to look at the charts like I used to. If you go waaaaaay back to my early post, it will clearly show you how I trade. Here are the posts:

Quoting qFish
AU: Added ep01 short scout. I will not have many scouts for this one as I'm filled with EU at the moment. But I need to have at least one scout ont his one considering how good this setup is. See my charts for my analysis. {image} {image}
and

Quoting qFish
GU: Here is my analysis of GU. As we are coming to a pivotal point on the break of the H4 wedge, it is a time of confusion and daze. Here is my speculative analysis based on PVSRA premises and an added assumption of my own. {image} My current bias is that it is currently a Bulls run for profit and now a good position for MMs to build shorts. This is of course assuming the cycles shown.
A lot of experience gained since then so there are a few improvements, but in summary it describes my trading style very well. I can definitely understand why you can't see what I see. Even though we are looking at the same picture, we are not "seeing" the same picture. I hope now you know more into why I make the trades I do.

Before NU will head south, I do still see a few more waves up. However, I have closed this trade this morning for "some" reason even before reading your post... coincidence I guess. I just didn't want to hold any trades through the weekends (no remaining open trades now). I'll wait and see what happens to this guy next week. My bias is still long though. Here is my analysis:

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insanity: Doing the same thing over... and expecting different results -AE
  • #69,234
  • Apr 18, 2014 7:00am Apr 18, 2014 7:00am
Quoting qFish
NU Long: First entry opened. {image}
NU: Closed for small profit. Done for the week, no open trades. Enjoy the weekend folks.

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insanity: Doing the same thing over... and expecting different results -AE
  • #69,235
  • Apr 18, 2014 7:08am Apr 18, 2014 7:08am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} NZDUSD: qFish, Why long? H4, H1, M15.....all show trending down, Dragon angled down and even the Trend angled down. Except for H4, the Dragon is now below the Trend. And the way it looks, that will soon be the case on H4, too. On M15 there are many "notable" spikes and retraces back up thru the 1/4, whole number and now the next lower 3/4 number, PVSRA indications the MMs are bears accumulating short orders, some of which are marked in the attached pic. I do not understand why you are choosing to enter a long trade. -tah {image}...
There is one reason to buy N/U - possible increase Bank Rate next week. Time will tell.
If you think you can do a thing or think you can't do a thing, you're right
  • #69,236
  • Edited 7:49am Apr 18, 2014 7:36am | Edited 7:49am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} cigarguy, I wish to thank you for your dedication to this thread and also for your posts defending the realm when you see justification to do so. You have become a true Sonicer, and I very much appreciate you for your selfless efforts in making worthy contributions here to help others. Thank you, -tah

TAH,

Thanks for the kind words. As a member of the Sonic community, I feel that we should all work together with a common goal of maintaining, enhancing and supporting this thread with informative and constructive posts. Acknowledging the fact that each trader may have his/her different trading styles and opinions, I think that those that have issues with PVSRA or this thread, should just quietly move on. Negative and disruptive posts serve no positive purpose but to clutter and facilitate angry emotions and responses from those contributing in a purposeful manner. As the saying goes, "It is better to keep your mouth closed and thought to be stupid than to open it and remove all doubt". Sadly, some have not learned that lesson

Regards
Cigarguy
Keep It Simple
  • #69,237
  • Edited 8:02am Apr 18, 2014 7:43am | Edited 8:02am
Quoting Catcher777
{quote} There is one reason to buy N/U - possible increase Bank Rate next week. Time will tell.
Yes it is definitely 'in the cards'. You may find this interesting, it is the March 2014 Monetary Policy statement. The RBNZ has come out and said it is expecting to raise rates gradually..I'm also a New Zealander myself and have been hearing this sort of thing on the radio lately. Of course who knows if they actually will this time around or the next time around for that matter, but I think we can be sure that they will be over time if you see the attachment for yourself.
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The RBNZ is literally just a a block or two away from where I live, if I get the chance to ask one of these goons in suits next time I see one I will, just to see what their reaction is to a mere 'peasant' such as myself would be .. Bunch of crooks!

Edit: Went to check my chart and I missed the action! Here it is for those who missed it also along with my interpretation:
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  • #69,238
  • Apr 18, 2014 7:58am Apr 18, 2014 7:58am
I wish everyone a happy and safe holiday whatever you may be doing!

Just something to think over the weekend on GJ:

As TAH stated yesterday there is LOTS of position building going on around 172.00. In fact price got to this level on very low volume, this can be seen as MM's manipulating the price upward, triggering stops and pending longs into the market for liquidity in order to place more shorts orders. As you can see in the below chart I have marked volumes that seem to be very important in understanding the price action. The first two marked volumes show very high volume compared to recent volumes and look how the candles closed. Both are pinbars occurring under a whole number. It was not until the close of london that price broke above 172.00. This is not surprising!! Just as TAH emphasized in the more recent post the MM's waited until there were absolutely no traders to manipulate price above this resistance and continued to add more short orders.

We might not see a run for profits for a while, but we can get clues of what the MM's are doing based on analyzing the PVSRA.
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  • #69,239
  • Edited 9:49am Apr 18, 2014 8:58am | Edited 9:49am
Quoting K40
is these what it is ? no charts police here man , you can name any shitee , sell any crap , @ least show the people you decentcy of knowing what you talking of . 2 , everaging is not the way to trade if you dont know which " wave " to ride . sure now days the market just like a puppy moving 1k each side with small series of retracement , pull back , meaning full correction but when it back to it course , everaging willbe pretty hard to make . just 2 cents Cheers {image}
K40,

Okay, you prodded me and I prodded you. We have both had our fun. Now it is time to get serious.

Just posting a chart produced by somebody other than yourself does not give you credibility. You frequent a new thread whose founder spent a week here and failed to understand, let alone master the PVSRA concept. The thing is, instead of respecting the tone of the Sonic R. System thread, he became arrogant and verbally abusive on leaving. This is not the behavior of a mature individual.

Neither is your behavior. You know nothing of the Sonic R. System. For some reason you have been attracted to the new thread this person has started. Yet you arrive here with posts obviously designed to taunt Sonicers. Moreover, in your zeal to follow this person, you have resorted to re-posting his fabricated lies.

http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...04#post7415104
"Tah is on a road to try to sell a book on pvrsa . Sell what book ?? consolidation , retracement , .... , .... correction .... pullback , consolidation ? it is every where in the charts , is not like god sent strategy or system . well if he can explane more show more teach more may be good buy , but with what it is where 1/2 of the fx population know it , how to sell . Basiclly the thicker the book the more better the picture will sell quick

You and I do not know each other. Yet you presume to promote lies about me, made up by this other person. Ask yourself about this behavior. What has caused you to do so? What in the world would cause anyone to promote lies about another person they don't know? It is never a good thing to blindly pick up someone else's banner and carry it, which is what you have done. By doing so, you have actually reduced the credibility of the thread you are at, because mature traders easily see such posts as yours as frivolous nonsense, something seasoned traders have no time or use for.

Just take a look around you over at that new thread. Not a single person has posted a real-time trade. It is a all a bunch of unverifiable words! Apparently, neither the starter of the thread, nor any of his exuberant groupies have the courage to post a real-time trade showing verification via MT4 charting. Our SoinicR Trade Levels indicator (free here at the Sonic R. System thread) is just what those folks need to use if they claim to be trading and want to others to see that it is the truth. But from what has been posted over there, it seems less a productive thread on trading and more just a place the immature can go to commiserate. Personally, any thread where the starter shows himself by his own posts to be a liar and of mean character, is not a healthy place for any person to be that is serious about becoming a better trader:
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...22#post7414722

I do hope you will give careful thought to the kind of person you want to become, and how you will be known to others. Immediately upon opening his new thread, the starter set it so I could not post there. He cannot post here, but for obvious reasons clearly able to be viewed by readers of the Sonic R. System thread. On the other hand, he had no reason to disallow my posting on his thread since I have never violated any precepts of his thread. He is a spiteful person, that being clear by this action and which is another sign of his maturity. Moreover, he does not want me to be able to respond on his thread to his mean and childish lies. Is this the kind of person you want to lead you? Why am I speaking of this? It is because I do not know you, and even though your posts here have so far no value to this thread, you can, as any person can, decide to do things differently after some more thought.

Best Wishes To You,
-tah
  • #69,240
  • Apr 18, 2014 9:14am Apr 18, 2014 9:14am
A question about timing-thoughts appreciated

I know it isn't wise to trade outside of London or US sessions, but sometimes I am not in the position to trade at those hours. I am also not one to sit and stare at a screen for hours on end--I tried that --- I think they call that swing day trader?-- anyway, I ended up like a street junkie --always thinking about the charts, and never having a real life. Oh, and I also blew up my account doing that-- over trading.


Anyway, I suppose maybe I should have waited until today, or after the Holiday--- it seems tight entries can be a bit of an art to master--if there is such a thing. Nobody likes draw down.

Well, my position still holds- I think it has great potential.

Today you can see the MM's [ my terminology= Mischievous Manipulators ] "whacking" price back above the whole number--done on very low volume compared to the average-- or maybe it's Friday. Price found purchase below the quarter level and decided to go back up.
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