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  • #890,321
  • Apr 15, 2014 11:30am Apr 15, 2014 11:30am
Quoting maximinus
{quote} They never voted against russia, but they rarely vetoed with russia, they prefer the abstention. If you want the exact number, I've to find them in the old docs in my archives. But I've no doubt about it. Will give you the info later.

Ok, no need to look in my docs. Thank you Google, here you go.

http://www.globalpolicy.org/componen...102/32810.html
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  • #890,322
  • Apr 15, 2014 11:32am Apr 15, 2014 11:32am
Quoting attila
{quote} source?
portfolio.hu, index.hu
  • #890,323
  • Apr 15, 2014 11:33am Apr 15, 2014 11:33am
Quoting gettoefl
mario ""The strengthening of the exchange rate would require further monetary policy accommodation. If you want policy to remain as accommodative as now, a further strengthening of the exchange rate would require further stimulus "
Nice was looking for that quote, knew i'd read it somewhere. Couldn't find it when i posted earlier.
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  • #890,324
  • Edited 11:45am Apr 15, 2014 11:34am | Edited 11:45am
Quoting forexings
{quote} Yeah, that's why US doesn't like competitor China. Cannot break them physically but trying economically.
I think it is too late to break China economically. China economy can quickly transfer to internal market and needs. China is basically still an agricultural country, not an industrial country. A large portion of the population still live in the countryside. Develop new cities and more centralized industrialization can absorb all the products that used to ship oversees. China can buy raw materials from Russia, from Brazil, from middle east, and from Africa.
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  • #890,325
  • Apr 15, 2014 11:36am Apr 15, 2014 11:36am
Quoting Gaviscon3
{quote} Nice was looking for that quote, knew i'd read it somewhere. Couldn't find it when i posted earlier.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/draghi...183112893.html
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  • #890,326
  • Apr 15, 2014 11:40am Apr 15, 2014 11:40am
Quoting maximinus
{quote} Ok, no need to look in my docs. Thank you Google, here you go. http://www.globalpolicy.org/componen...102/32810.html
that tells me nothing about the question.
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  • #890,327
  • Apr 15, 2014 11:48am Apr 15, 2014 11:48am
Quoting ffleo
{quote} I think it is too late to break China economically. China economy can quickly transfer to internal market and needs. China is basically still an agricultural country, not an industrial country. A large portion of the population still live in the countryside. Develop new cities and more centralized industrialization can absorb all the products that used to ship oversees. China can buy raw materials from Russia, from Brazil, from middle east.
thats what makes it hard for them. shipping cost x2. middlemen on both sides. and they still have to make a profit. the government subsidized oil,energy for the past few decades. at some point it will fail. w/o the government subsidise the cost is much higher to produce. you dont stay in business forever if it cost more to build something, then you sell it for.
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  • #890,328
  • Apr 15, 2014 11:48am Apr 15, 2014 11:48am
Quoting Davit
{quote} http://www.bis.org/review/r140404a.htm his actual speech Hence, we do not exclude further monetary policy easing and we firmly reiterate that we continue to expect the key ECB interest rates to remain at present or lower levels for an extended period of time. This expectation is based on an overall subdued outlook for inflation extending into the medium term, given the broad-based weakness of the economy, the high degree of unutilised capacity and subdued money and credit creation. At the same time, we are closely following developments...
Mister Davit what do you think about the gap from 1.3883? We must wait until close or not?
By the way i'm waiting and close all my short but still hold shorts on eur/jpy
which i'm more confidence
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  • #890,329
  • Apr 15, 2014 11:48am Apr 15, 2014 11:48am
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} that was my point in the original post. when it concerned one of the 2. they voted in tandem. not against each other or a non vote.
I wanted to point that formulation was incorrect. Nothing more. But sure, the fact that the last time china did not vote with russia is significant but not substantially, that's is diplomacy.

Quoting gatorinla
{quote} that tells me nothing about the question.
What is the question ?

Have to go, BBL.

Please keep UJ under 101.65.
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  • #890,330
  • Apr 15, 2014 11:56am Apr 15, 2014 11:56am
Small part of what I deal with has to do with Tariffs & Quotas on their (China's) end. Both are horrible for a national economy ... Regional and state governments in China are going to start reversing a few of them to allow more trade.

http://web.ita.doc.gov/tacgi/OverSea.../alldata/China

Intraindustry (same items ... car for car, etc) vs Interindustry trade is what is changing over there ... China has a LOT of room to grow if they want to ...

The losses from tariffs & Quotas are at extreme levels, some normal industries are upto 30% locally. They can raise a lot or surplus if they open up the flood gates.
  • #890,331
  • Apr 15, 2014 12:03pm Apr 15, 2014 12:03pm
Quoting maximinus
{quote} I wanted to point that formulation was incorrect. Nothing more. But sure, the fact that the last time china did not vote with russia is significant but not substantially, that's is diplomacy. {quote} What is the question ? Have to go, BBL. Please keep UJ under 101.65.
i said votes against one another concerning china (siding with russia). a veto is a instrument used to pull a resolution. all that is needed is one. not all members can veto. in that case, a vote against is not a veto. so a veto and a vote are not the same thing. of course the vetoes will not equal up, since only one is needed.

if after 60+ years, if thats not substantial. i dont know what is..
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  • #890,332
  • Apr 15, 2014 12:09pm Apr 15, 2014 12:09pm
Quoting attila
{quote} As of right now U.S. can still break them whichever way it wants... Will that be the case in the future? Following the current course of action, probably not..
May be not by war. Both of them will be destroyed by atomic weapon. None of them will dare to make such battle.
Cold war is another weapon been used to break Soviet Union.
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  • #890,333
  • Apr 15, 2014 12:14pm Apr 15, 2014 12:14pm
more fighting in ukraine.. calling them terrorist, the ukraine president is taking action to rid ukraine. maybe more bond buying, making u.s. rates drop to weaken usd. on the other hand will the same happen in the ez?
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  • #890,334
  • Apr 15, 2014 12:15pm Apr 15, 2014 12:15pm
Quoting forexings
{quote} May be not by war. Both of them will be destroyed by atomic weapon. None of them will dare to make such battle. Cold war is another weapon been used to break Soviet Union.
Few people understand the U.S. military power... And it's not necessarily hardware.. That's passé... China would not stand a chance.
  • #890,335
  • Apr 15, 2014 12:18pm Apr 15, 2014 12:18pm
Quoting slow-trader
Small part of what I deal with has to do with Tariffs & Quotas on their (China's) end. Both are horrible for a national economy ... Regional and state governments in China are going to start reversing a few of them to allow more trade. http://web.ita.doc.gov/tacgi/OverSea.../alldata/China Intraindustry (same items ... car for car, etc) vs Interindustry trade is what is changing over there ... China has a LOT of room to grow if they want to ... The losses from tariffs & Quotas are at extreme levels, some normal industries are upto...
they may be better off making buggy whips. or open the doors for tourism. make the whole country a disney world. 3d machines are getting cheaper and i can make my own tupperware.
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  • #890,336
  • Apr 15, 2014 12:24pm Apr 15, 2014 12:24pm
putin is using the words anti constitutional. to describe a sovereign nation weeding out the combatants...heads up
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  • #890,337
  • Apr 15, 2014 12:25pm Apr 15, 2014 12:25pm
Quoting attila
{quote} Few people understand the U.S. military power... And it's not necessarily hardware.. That's passé... China would not stand a chance.
Whatever. I admire US military strength. But....
US cannot destroy large China by a day or two which is enough to launch hundreds of intercontinental ballistic missiles. 10-20 nuclear bombs are enough to destroy US or China or both. Patriot missiles cannot defend all of them.
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  • #890,338
  • Apr 15, 2014 12:28pm Apr 15, 2014 12:28pm
Quoting attila
{quote} Few people understand the U.S. military power... And it's not necessarily hardware.. That's passé... China would not stand a chance.

Maybe, but with Russia I think Americans are genuinely afraid and rightfully so.

Would young men in America actually go off to right Russians?

Sadly, Russians and in general... the men of societies with more traditional gender roles are way more "manly men" than young American guys are. Is that kind of what Putin represents?

The 1940s style war effort doesn't seem viable any more because young American men have way less to protect in the way of fighting for wives and family.
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  • #890,339
  • Apr 15, 2014 12:29pm Apr 15, 2014 12:29pm
Quoting forexings
{quote} Whatever. I admire US military strength. But.... US cannot destroy large China by a day or two which is enough to launch hundreds of intercontinental ballistic missiles. 10-20 nuclear weapon are enough to destroy US or China or both. Patriot missiles cannot defend all of them.
a few pre=emp emp and the lights go out. no satellite. no launch
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  • #890,340
  • Apr 15, 2014 12:29pm Apr 15, 2014 12:29pm
Quoting attila
{quote} Few people understand the U.S. military power... And it's not necessarily hardware.. That's passé... China would not stand a chance.
Ye US still way in front as military top dog. Their military spending dwarfs Russia. USA v Russia would be a no contest as long as nukes were kept out of it. Na actually USA would still win - Russia would be wiped of the face of the Earth, and the USA would be ruined, but i guess a winner. Although the whole globe would probably be fucked come to think of it. Planetary destruction but moral victory over the Russians lol? I'm not serious about the nuke part.

I'm guessing China is still no match for the US. Population wise, but not technologically, which is what matters in modern warfare. Numbers game of total warfare long defunct.
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