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  • #68,781
  • Edited 11:31am Apr 11, 2014 11:15am | Edited 11:31am
GBPJPY:

We cannot know how price will move next.

Elegant simplicity is more than adequate:
DAY chart- very bearish
H4 chart- very bearish
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  • #68,782
  • Apr 11, 2014 11:37am Apr 11, 2014 11:37am
Quoting traderathome
GBPJPY: We cannot know how price will move next. Elegant simplicity is best: DAY chart- very bearish H4 chart- very bearish {image} {image}
Yes--good points.

But I would like to just say [for new people] that charts between brokers are not the same, --the smaller TF's would look similar [M1-H1 [although volumes might not be the same as an aggregate whole; it would depend on their feed source]
Each broker has different GMT settings [offsets], so the H4 and Day candles will not look similar.


While one chart says one story, another chart could and might say another.
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  • #68,783
  • Edited Apr 12, 2014 10:35am Apr 11, 2014 11:46am | Edited Apr 12, 2014 10:35am
I share with traderathome that simplicity is elegant and beautiful. But the interpretation of the charts is subjective, so we can not know where the price will go.
So the daily chart I see in sideways trend. And I see the H4 chart bearish, but on support area and slightly oversold.
This is a different point of view. While I assume that the price could go down, I'll wait until the turn, probably.
For now I think more about longs than shorts. But I can change my mind whichever occurs later.
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  • #68,784
  • Apr 11, 2014 11:52am Apr 11, 2014 11:52am
Quoting traderathome
GBPJPY: We cannot know how price will move next. Elegant simplicity is more than adequate: DAY chart- very bearish H4 chart- very bearish {image} {image}
Quoting MusicMoney
{quote} Yes--good points. But I would like to just say [for new people] that charts between brokers are not the same, --the smaller TF's would look similar [M1-H1 [although volumes might not be the same as an aggregate whole; it would depend on their feed source] Each broker has different GMT settings [offsets], so the H4 and Day candles will not look similar. While one chart says one story, another chart could and might say another. {image} {image}
GBPJPY:

There is no "But" about it! The H4 charts will be different for brokers with servers based on different time zones, but they will still tell the same story, that this is bearish.
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  • #68,785
  • Apr 11, 2014 12:10pm Apr 11, 2014 12:10pm
Hello everyone. I ask you to forgive me for putting up this question, i know i should have browsed through more pages before asking, but it really boggles my mind. I have been reading 130-pages pdf on PVSRA trying to get the basics of this method and at certain point i thought i have...right before i stumbled on the graphshot at the page 54 (XAUUSD), that i attached to this message. It really confused everything up for me. How do we distinguish when MM's are pushing prices in the opposite direction to get better prices vs Mark up/down phaze. At first my understanding was if it is high velocity, big volume, instant movement better to some S&R level then it is hiking up/down...but at this graph of XAUUSD both moves are basically identical (quick up, then sideways , quick down then sideways). Let's suppose there is no super mark down phase on the chart...how can i say it is not price dumping to get better prices to build longs.
Please don't get offended by me flooding this topic with silly questions, i'm simply lost here.
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  • #68,786
  • Apr 11, 2014 12:35pm Apr 11, 2014 12:35pm
Quoting evpkol
Hello everyone. I ask you to forgive me for putting up this question, i know i should have browsed through more pages before asking, but it really boggles my mind. I have been reading 130-pages pdf on PVSRA trying to get the basics of this method and at certain point i thought i have...right before i stumbled on the graphshot at the page 54 (XAUUSD), that i attached to this message. It really confused everything up for me. How do we distinguish when MM's are pushing prices in the opposite direction to get better prices vs Mark up/down phaze. At...
Okay, assuming the super mark down phase has not yet happened, there remains two predominate clues that bears abound:

1. The price hike was to above the half number. A premise of PVSRA is that bears prefer to build shorts above the most important Levels; whole and half number levels. This move up was followed by a move down, but now still above the lower whole number, where accumulation of shorts was still probable, and then clinched when the price was again spiked towards the upper half number
2. Thoughout this period the Dragon and the Trend continued lower, with good angles down.

With these conditions, it was far more probable the MMs remained bears, but bears that were engaged in price manipulating a retrace upwards in the overall down trend, for the purpose of reloading more shorts.
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  • Edited 12:55pm Apr 11, 2014 12:38pm | Edited 12:55pm
GBPJPY M15.-
Would like to know if the increase in volume chart showing my broker coincides with others brokers.
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  • #68,788
  • Apr 11, 2014 12:48pm Apr 11, 2014 12:48pm
Quoting traderathome
With these conditions, it was far more probable the MMs remained bears, but bears that were engaged in price manipulating a retrace upwards in the overall down trend, for the purpose of reloading more shorts.
Thank you very much for answering. I'm eager to ask more, but two stupid questions in a row would be too much ) Will be back in some time. Cheers!
  • #68,789
  • Apr 11, 2014 12:55pm Apr 11, 2014 12:55pm
Quoting Repsaj
GBPJPY M15.- Would like to know if the increase in volume chart showing my broker coincides with others brokers. {image}
Who is your broker? Without that information someone might look at their chart and see the same and say "yes, same increase in volume" without knowing they were looking at the same broker chart!

Really, you need to think more about what information you need to provide when asking questions!

-tah
  • #68,790
  • Apr 11, 2014 1:02pm Apr 11, 2014 1:02pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} Who is your broker? Without that information someone might look at their chart and see the same and say "yes, same increase in volume" without knowing they were looking at the same broker chart! Really, you need to think more about what information you need to provide when asking questions! -tah
I'm currently in demo, with this ... Armada Markets.
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  • #68,791
  • Apr 11, 2014 1:05pm Apr 11, 2014 1:05pm
Quoting Repsaj
{quote} I'm currently in demo, with this ... Armada Markets. {image}
FXCM is very similar to yours.
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  • #68,792
  • Apr 11, 2014 1:09pm Apr 11, 2014 1:09pm
Quoting Repsaj
{quote} I'm currently in demo, with this ... Armada Markets. {image}
Global Prime is showing the similar stuff too.
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  • #68,793
  • Apr 11, 2014 1:14pm Apr 11, 2014 1:14pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} FXCM is very similar to yours. {image}
Thanks traderathome and AdrianC.
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  • #68,794
  • Apr 11, 2014 3:09pm Apr 11, 2014 3:09pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} USDCAD Long Trade Update: Added long #3, another Classic. No TP set at this time and RWH still is viable. {image}
USDCAD Long Trade Closed:

Manually closed trade for 419.9 pips gain. Longs #4-16 were added subsequent to the last post.
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  • #68,795
  • Apr 11, 2014 3:50pm Apr 11, 2014 3:50pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} USDCAD Long Trade Closed: Manually closed trade for 419.9 pips gain. Longs #4-16 were added subsequent to the last post. {image}
TAH, could you explain the reason you added longs on one green volume bar?
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  • #68,796
  • Apr 11, 2014 6:18pm Apr 11, 2014 6:18pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} {quote} GBPJPY: There is no "But" about it! The H4 charts will be different for brokers with servers based on different time zones, but they will still tell the same story, that this is bearish. {image} {image}
This is as good as it gets as a slamdunk unless crazy news hit the fan. Thanks prof TAH
  • #68,797
  • Apr 11, 2014 7:17pm Apr 11, 2014 7:17pm
My results of trading with Sonic R. System using PVSRA.

Week 1 [16 Mac - 22 Mac (2014 Week 12)]
0 pip gained.
[1 trade totaling 5 parts floating on UsdCad (short)]

Week 2 [23 Mac - 29 Mac (2014 Week 13)]
+261.2 pips gained, 1 trade totaling 5 parts (3 parts gain, 2 parts lose), averaging +52.24 pips per each of all parts.
[0 trade floating]

Week 3 [30 Mac - 5 Apr (2014 Week 14)]
0 pip gained.
[1 trade totaling 7 parts floating on GbpJpy (short)]

Week 4 [6 Apr - 11 Apr (2014 Week 15)]
+882 pips gained, 1 trade totaling 7 parts (7 parts gain, 0 part lose), averaging +126 pips per each of all parts.
[1 trade totaling 4parts floating on NzdUsd (short)]

Summary
+1143.2 pips banked
(+7.4) pips current draw down (net loss of all open PVSRA trades)
+1150.6 pips net gain (pips banked plus net loss of all open PVSRA trades)
+287.65 pips weekly average net gain (weekly average net gain if all open PVSRA trades instantly closed)

Acknowledgement
Thank you Master Sonic & Prof Tah for all the work putting into Sonic R System and share it foc here on FF.
And I copy the format of Prof Tah's results, hope Prof don't mind me copy without asking.

-AdrianC.
  • #68,798
  • Edited 8:54pm Apr 11, 2014 7:41pm | Edited 8:54pm
Quoting AdrianC
My results of trading with Sonic R. System using PVSRA. Week 1 [16 Mac - 22 Mac (2014 Week 12)] 0 pip gained. [1 trade totaling 5 parts floating on UsdCad (short)] Week 2 [23 Mac - 29 Mac (2014 Week 13)] +261.2 pips gained, 1 trade totaling 5 parts (3 parts gain, 2 parts lose), averaging +52.24 pips per each of all parts. [0 trade floating] Week 3 [30 Mac - 5 Apr (2014 Week 14)] 0 pip gained. [1 trade totaling 7 parts floating on GbpJpy (short)] Week 4 [6 Apr - 11 Apr (2014 Week 15)] +882 pips gained, 1 trade totaling 7 parts (7 parts gain, 0 part...

Nice post Adrian nice summary - keep it going
I too am short GJ "the beast"

Attached see what happens the last few minutes of the market - it may be an indication of what May happen during the opening next week but you never know. I generally like to be flat on Friday but I am holding this "larger position for my account" through the weekend. It does seem to me that there has been considerable consolidation on the 4H for quite some time and Sterling has had a pretty nice run up. In the big picture that doesn't really matter to the smart $....what does matter to them is profits and there is no better way than to make the Big pips for them is to take it Down (way down 500-1000 pips ) - small GBP weakness and a little Yen strength from the new tax and any easing MAY do this... but who cares... all that matter is what smart money does and we ride the coat-tails....of course this is speculative and if it goes the other way I am out with a loss.

I have attached both a 1M and 4Hr for reference- I got into this trade a lot late between getting my little one on the bus and driving to work...trading on the phone is a bear but look what can be done ....week 14 real $ real account PVSRA and Sonic way to go... on the way to #3 on the year

Week 14

  1. 17,208 pips gained
  2. -10,870 pips lost
  3. 6,338 net

fyi 1000 trades since Jan 1...win rate Only 61% ...it doesn't take much to make a big difference...many times when I close a position with 5 or more entries, 1 or 2 may be underwater.

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Entries in the wicks over and over **PVSRA rules!
  • #68,799
  • Apr 11, 2014 9:41pm Apr 11, 2014 9:41pm
One more thing to share

....
Here at this site Myfxbook you can draw out charts to see how real time markets prevail - good stuff....attached is the GJ Daily( after you draw up the lines the candles fill in later ) ....here you can see I was expecting a drop but it went sideways
this can help a lot of Sonicers see there predictions...but of course don't predict ....just follow the SM ...but if you want to throw up a few lines on a chart then go back a week or month later it can be VERY interesting...
The best to all....

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Entries in the wicks over and over **PVSRA rules!
  • #68,800
  • Apr 12, 2014 10:22am Apr 12, 2014 10:22am
TAH

i was busy looking up things in research as well as reading the docs relating to this system when i had an idea
ive had a part of vsa and tradeguider and i wandered.
i know how you love indicators ,, however for the benefit of everyone ,, would either of these 2 indicators be of any use in identifying pvsra.

please email me incase you wanna test them,,,adapt them before adding to the group or letme know illjust attach here
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