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  • #889,001
  • Apr 10, 2014 5:23am Apr 10, 2014 5:23am
Quoting Gaviscon3
{quote} Annuities are currently amongst the most expensive in history.
the cost might be the highest but the value is the lowest!!!
slow-trader, in the uk you have to buy an annuity with your pension pot but changes are afoot so you can cash in and go spend it on ferraris, hookers and blow instead...... in the US I believe you have 401Ks......google how Bernanke destroyed the value of your 401K....
  • #889,002
  • Apr 10, 2014 5:27am Apr 10, 2014 5:27am
Quoting slow-trader
{quote} But US has A LOT more in total assets than that 17 Trillion in debt ... so that isn't a fair comparison. And I hate talking about inflation because it is hard to quantify and get a true since of ... There isn't any deflation ,in my opinion, in the US ... every business has just cut portions or quality to meet a lower price, so deflation is really masked inflation with lower grade. Not sure if it is same story everything else, but I am sure it is. And the debt/spending part, that is what I was talking about, there isn't a real good way to...
I don't think there is deflation, that's why I said low inflation - now food prices are another thing. Yes, the US does in comparison. My point is consumer driven economies are debt laden economies.

Look at the figures here and let me know if that looks good to you: http://usdebtclock.org/

Wages are going up, but very modestly. The US average wage is roughly $20.42, yet 60% of the population make below that. Savings rates increased, but so did spending. Personal debt in the US is 10x their average savings.

Wages increased in the EZ but saving is at decade lows.

You only assume you have higher wages. Four years of my working years laid in decay because I couldn't get hired as a degree holder from a top 1% university for more than $10/hr, and I have to pull 60 hour work weeks to try and make that up.

I would love to assume it is nothing but fields of tulips and daffodils, but there is no way the US will sustain that debt. The Fed has the perfect plan, stoke inflation to pay off debt with cheap money and keep rates low so they can service the interest. Unfortunately, it does us squat.

Get this: 16,000 families in the US own $6 trillion of assets. That equals the entire wealth of the bottom 2/3 of the population. The top 1 percent just regained their share of total asset level as seen in the roaring 20s.

And the kicker, the only group to see a substantial jump in wealth, the top .1 of the top 1 percent. If people thing this Operation Endless Balance sheet is actually helping middle America they have fallen for the ruse.
When the facts change I change my mind, what do you do sir
  • #889,003
  • Apr 10, 2014 5:27am Apr 10, 2014 5:27am
Quoting egkid
{quote} I know u follow all fundamental Don't wanna rush things but i have surprised number by end of next week tell u and talk about it or wait till week close
Sure ...
"It's the Margin, Stupid."
  • #889,004
  • Apr 10, 2014 5:29am Apr 10, 2014 5:29am
Quoting jonnypants
{quote} Hi Max, hope you're well! Do you trade indices? If not, why not?
yes mainly the DAX, also crude and equities
  • #889,005
  • Apr 10, 2014 5:36am Apr 10, 2014 5:36am
Quoting MaxDoom
{quote} yes mainly the DAX, also crude and equities
Cool, any good forums/websites you follow for DAX? I see it had a big shit this morning.....

Ich liebe dich! Deutschland uber der dumbkopf English
  • #889,006
  • Apr 10, 2014 5:40am Apr 10, 2014 5:40am
Hey

I trade dax and al other indexen.What i don't understand that al these indexen do the same.
I follow it every second.

Can someone explain why???????????
  • #889,007
  • Apr 10, 2014 5:43am Apr 10, 2014 5:43am
Quoting jonnypants
{quote} Cool, any good forums/websites you follow for DAX? I see it had a big shit this morning..... Ich liebe dich! Deutschland uber der dumbkopf English
Inflation/deflation is based on changes in prices. Although value can be taken into account. So you've answered for me - pension annuities cost more to buy while offering less value. That is only inflation. So each unit of value not only costs more, but the unit value is significantly eroded. Applies to pensions which are fixed-income.
It'll be alright on the night
  • #889,008
  • Apr 10, 2014 5:46am Apr 10, 2014 5:46am
brit data in 15min, anyone want to wager 1 apple it has changed
If you are new to Forex? Say Goodbye to your account!!
  • #889,009
  • Apr 10, 2014 5:48am Apr 10, 2014 5:48am
Quoting jonnypants
{quote} Cool, any good forums/websites you follow for DAX? I see it had a big shit this morning..... Ich liebe dich! Deutschland uber der dumbkopf English
lol...

I only use FF no time for anything else
  • #889,010
  • Apr 10, 2014 5:51am Apr 10, 2014 5:51am
Quoting 3Davy
Hey I trade dax and al other indexen.What i don't understand that al these indexen do the same. I follow it every second. Can someone explain why???????????
Global stock markets follow the US indices because the US economy is so important to all other economies because as the largest economy it buys a lot of stuff from businesses around the world. So if the US stock markets take a tumble others elsewhere take this as a bad sign for the earnings of their country's business.

Also speculative activity and the current low-yield environment makes investors search for yield elsewhere in other markets. When the US releases bad data, these investors pull their cash (bringing it home) which is why emerging markets have had big swings and partly explains why the DAX tanked last week before the Dow Jones.
It'll be alright on the night
  • #889,011
  • Apr 10, 2014 5:51am Apr 10, 2014 5:51am
is there any way to rationalise this pair? i mean its going up, but there are nil rate rises forecast...what the heck is with this pair..so far in 2014 defies all logic and keeps going up. theres only so much technicals can do..where are the fundamentals?

largest 4 day gain for this pair in 2014.
  • #889,012
  • Apr 10, 2014 5:56am Apr 10, 2014 5:56am
Quoting 3Davy
Hey I trade dax and al other indexen.What i don't understand that al these indexen do the same. I follow it every second. Can someone explain why???????????
They all track US....... here's another interesting correlation for you, but looks like it broke a bit this week
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  • #889,013
  • Apr 10, 2014 6:06am Apr 10, 2014 6:06am
Quoting Gaviscon3
{quote} Inflation/deflation is based on changes in prices. Although value can be taken into account. So you've answered for me - pension annuities cost more to buy while offering less value. That is only inflation. So each unit of value not only costs more, but the unit value is significantly eroded. Applies to pensions which are fixed-income.
OK call it inflation if you like, bottom line, annuities are a fookin ripoff! just like endowment policies were, just like savings returns are now, just like insurance and about every other fookin rip off product that the finance industry has ever come up with!!! Perchance what industry do you work in, if I may be so bold to ask???
  • #889,014
  • Apr 10, 2014 6:09am Apr 10, 2014 6:09am
Quoting Halba
is there any way to rationalise this pair?..where are the fundamentals? l
dude the fundies broke in 2008 with Lehman Bros, come on lad keep up....
  • #889,015
  • Apr 10, 2014 6:09am Apr 10, 2014 6:09am
Quoting Halba
is there any way to rationalise this pair? i mean its going up, but there are nil rate rises forecast...what the heck is with this pair..so far in 2014 defies all logic and keeps going up. theres only so much technicals can do..where are the fundamentals? largest 4 day gain for this pair in 2014.
Well inflation in the EZ is really low and lower than inflation in the US. So from that perspective the Euro should appreciate against the dollar. Although inflation is affected/affects many things, not just the exchange rate mechanism, i'm just pointing out one aspect. Alongside this you have the Federal Reserve, who despite intimating in the last couple of months that rate rises will occur more quickly than expected, are actually being bet against doing so by a lot of speculators. The recovery in the US is very fragile and as others have been discussing above, the same old debt problems that got us into this mess are still structurally there. Many think that the Fed will not raise rates anytime soon and that if the stock market takes a massive tumble, will stop tapering (i.e. they will reintroduce QE).
It'll be alright on the night
  • #889,016
  • Apr 10, 2014 6:11am Apr 10, 2014 6:11am
Quoting jonnypants
{quote} Fixed that one for you
LOL Goodone
  • #889,017
  • Apr 10, 2014 6:15am Apr 10, 2014 6:15am
Quoting jonnypants
{quote} OK call it inflation if you like, bottom line, annuities are a fookin ripoff! just like endowment policies were, just like savings returns are now, just like insurance and about every other fookin rip off product that the finance industry has ever come up with!!! Perchance what industry do you work in, if I may be so bold to ask???
Ah mate totally agree with you there. The finance industry is full of very clever sharks looking to screw everyone else. Listen i think even my spreadbetting broker is looking to screw me (i have refrained from mentioning it during the very short phone calls i have answered from them so far lol). Even if we in a normal interest-rate environment annuities would still be shit relative to what you should be getting because of all the fees the pension guys skivvy off you to line their fat pockets. I run a small online retailer i recently set-up. Early days. Yourself?
It'll be alright on the night
  • #889,018
  • Apr 10, 2014 6:16am Apr 10, 2014 6:16am
Quoting Gaviscon3
Look ouuuuuut - long trade taken 22 days ago back in profit. Fucked up analysis for entry, but not trend. Boom.
...lucky -) ....now we are waiting for the 3th gear acceleration ! yee haaa ...but this time no shorts will survive ! -(

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  • #889,019
  • Apr 10, 2014 6:25am Apr 10, 2014 6:25am
Quoting Gaviscon3
{quote} I run a small online retailer i recently set-up. Early days. Yourself?
Good luck with that. IT for me but I'm beginning to think computers hate me lol so I need to take some time out and blow some money trading again
Guys check this out, DAX this week and it loves round numbers........ now where's that DAX thread again.....
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  • #889,020
  • Apr 10, 2014 6:27am Apr 10, 2014 6:27am
Quoting Miguel.N
{quote} ...lucky -) ....now we are waiting for the 3th gear acceleration ! yee haaa ...but this time no shorts will survive ! -( {image}
Accelerating to what point? I hav a sell @13689, so do u advice me to edge it or leave it?
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