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  • #68,201
  • Apr 2, 2014 8:26pm Apr 2, 2014 8:26pm
GBPJPY:
After seeing yet another classic on this pair I added the following pending order scouts, both of which have now been triggered by the Asian MM's.
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M1 PVSRA shows this is a move put on by bear MM's to sell at higher prices:
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  • #68,202
  • Apr 2, 2014 8:38pm Apr 2, 2014 8:38pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} GBPJPY Short Trade Update: Added short #14, Scout, as MMs ran the price above the upper whole number, and based on previous PVSRA indications the MMs are bears that are pushing the price up for liquidity for shorting by triggering pending stops on shorts and triggering pending long orders. Also, note the lousy range today. This could mean the MMs are having increasing difficulty in pumping the price.....no buyers to suck in and no shorters using stops because everyone sees what the deceiving & thieving MMs are up to! {image}
GBPJPY Short Trade Update:

Added shorts #15-16, Scouts.
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  • #68,203
  • Apr 2, 2014 8:41pm Apr 2, 2014 8:41pm
Quoting SaiLyfee
GBPJPY: After seeing yet another classic on this pair I added the following pending order scouts, both of which have now been triggered by the Asian MM's. {image} M1 PVSRA shows this is a move put on by bear MM's to sell at higher prices: {image}
These dirty cunning MMs keep pushing the price up to suck in longs and create liquidity for their own shorts.
2 pending scouts (#6 & #7)was triggered again when i sleep.

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Same view on M1
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  • #68,204
  • Apr 2, 2014 8:41pm Apr 2, 2014 8:41pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} GBPAUD Short Trade Update: Added short #4, Scout, as MMs hiked price back above 1/2 Level during last part of London session. If they hike price more, sufficiently more, between now and the upcoming releases, I intend to add more to this short trade. Edit: Added short #5, Scout,....and still stalking to see how high the Market Makers push this. {image}
GBPAUD Short Trade Update:

Added shorts #6-8, Scouts.
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  • #68,205
  • Edited 9:25pm Apr 2, 2014 9:00pm | Edited 9:25pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} AUDUSD Long Trade Update: Entered longs #3-5, Scouts, as MMs whacked the price in conjunction with releases. My take on this is that such quick moves are usually indicative of bull MMs that are aggressively manipulating prices lower to close residual shorts or to accumulate better priced longs. Such a move sucks in live shorters, triggers pending short orders and triggers stops on longs,......all creating liquidity for closing shorts/accumulating long orders by bull MMs. If the MMs were bears, they'd have supported the price or even whipped...

I agree with you on this. But only to make a run for the highs.

More buying in area as opposed to selling as seen on lower TF charts.


March 31st had a "super candle" that could be considered a flagpole.


Dump past support line to capture orders--quick recovery.


Buy,sell, buy, sell--no buy--[dump] sell then becomes buy

Up for now-- selling doesn't happen at the bottom
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  • #68,206
  • Edited 9:35pm Apr 2, 2014 9:18pm | Edited 9:35pm
Quoting MusicMoney
{quote} I agree with you on this. But only to make a run for the highs. More buying in area as opposed to selling as seen on lower TF charts. March 31st had a "super candle" that could be considered a flagpole. Dump past support line to capture orders--quick recovery. Buy,sell, buy, sell--no buy--[dump] sell then becomes buy Up for now {image}
MusicMoney,

1. Please, I have asked you before, do not needlessly double/triple space your posts. It just makes the thread longer without purpose.
2. The candle for 03/31/2014 is not a "super candle". What the hell is a "super candle" anyway? Please, use accepted terminology and not your own inventions which have absolutely no meaning to anyone else. If you must use a non-conventional term, have the decency and respect for others to define it!
3. None of the candles at the highs are notable for much of anything, which is why they might simple be what they are....candles showing a ranging price. And ranging price usually means consolidation, which means position building, which could be longs or shorts.

And time will tell, not you.

I caution you about posting in such a blatantly predicting fashion. Only those uninitiated in the ways of the market do so as you have been doing. It serves no one here for you to do this, and it will not serve you well either. Sonicers that tire of seeing scribble and predictions substituted for analysis will ignore your posts. And if you are actually trading, you will lose your money.

-tah
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  • #68,207
  • Apr 2, 2014 10:37pm Apr 2, 2014 10:37pm
OK. I apoligise for I know this is off topic but I would like to gather if this is broker feed data manipulation or not. This actually has got to be the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen. The broker I am with is Vantage FX, and I have been having a good experience with them so far.
But I was looking at this CHFJPY chart on the MONTH TF and saw this...
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Come on now...did this actually happen or is this my broker up to no good here?
  • #68,208
  • Apr 2, 2014 10:48pm Apr 2, 2014 10:48pm
Quoting SaiLyfee
OK. I apoligise for I know this is off topic but I would like to gather if this is broker feed data manipulation or not. This actually has got to be the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen. The broker I am with is Vantage FX, and I have been having a good experience with them so far. But I was looking at this CHFJPY chart on the MONTH TF and saw this... {image} Come on now...did this actually happen or is this my broker up to no good here?
That's just a data spike. Brokers get those sometimes. Price never actually acted that way, and if you were theoretically in a trade when that happened, you wouldn't have noticed it. The chart would have printed that crazy pattern and your positions would have been fine.

I had this happen to me once a couple years back. It's no biggie.
I'm a dog chasing cars.
  • #68,209
  • Apr 2, 2014 10:53pm Apr 2, 2014 10:53pm
Quoting ElectroGypsy
{quote} That's just a data spike. Brokers get those sometimes. Price never actually acted that way, and if you were theoretically in a trade when that happened, you wouldn't have noticed it. The chart would have printed that crazy pattern and your positions would have been fine. I had this happen to me once a couple years back. It's no biggie.
Ahh okay, thank you, I appreciate the clearing up of it, I had no idea.

In other news I had closed out my USDJPY trade last night before the news release and have now reopened the trade as price found itself above the whole number.
With such volumes occurring at the highs after a short classic set up and all of the sticking out wicks I am confident that there is downside on this pair to come..
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  • #68,210
  • Apr 2, 2014 10:58pm Apr 2, 2014 10:58pm
Quoting SaiLyfee
{quote} Ahh okay, thank you, I appreciate the clearing up of it, I had no idea. In other news I had closed out my USDJPY trade last night before the news release and have now reopened the trade as price found itself above the whole number. With such volumes occurring at the highs after a short classic set up and all of the sticking out wicks I am confident that there is downside on this pair to come.. {image}
No problem.

I was just about to post my UJ with my added third position at the price you entered, but now there's no need. Glad we are on the same page!
I'm a dog chasing cars.
  • #68,211
  • Apr 2, 2014 11:00pm Apr 2, 2014 11:00pm
Quoting SaiLyfee
OK. I apoligise for I know this is off topic but I would like to gather if this is broker feed data manipulation or not. This actually has got to be the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen. The broker I am with is Vantage FX, and I have been having a good experience with them so far. But I was looking at this CHFJPY chart on the MONTH TF and saw this... {image} Come on now...did this actually happen or is this my broker up to no good here?
Yes i also had this line, i am with Exness and i asked them but they couldn't tell what it is but they ensured that if anything happen like that and any pending order is active then they will cancel the order and will refund if you have any loss.
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  • #68,212
  • Apr 2, 2014 11:02pm Apr 2, 2014 11:02pm
I have like that with volume. After a couple min it works without problem but while price is moving it stays at wrong place. Anyone has a problem like it ? I tried to load sonic 2013 and it's volume works normally.
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  • #68,213
  • Apr 2, 2014 11:04pm Apr 2, 2014 11:04pm
Quoting aahmad29
{quote} Yes i also had this line, i am with Exness and i asked them but they couldn't tell what it is but they ensured that if anything happen like that and any pending order is active then they will cancel the order and will refund if you have any loss.
It's a common spike seen on a lot of different brokers. You both must have the same liquidity provider. IBFX also has this spike.

Quoting msdogan
I have like that with volume. After a couple min it works without problem but while price is moving it stays at wrong place. Anyone has a problem like it ? I tried to load sonic 2013 and it's volume works normally. {image} {image}
Your sonic FF headlines template is covering up the volume . Look how you moved it and now everything is better.
I'm a dog chasing cars.
  • #68,214
  • Apr 2, 2014 11:20pm Apr 2, 2014 11:20pm
{quote} Your sonic FF headlines template is covering up the volume . Look how you moved it and now everything is better.[/quote]

Thank you very much Electro I hope you make good profits all time
  • #68,215
  • Apr 2, 2014 11:36pm Apr 2, 2014 11:36pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} GBPJPY Short Trade Update: Added shorts #15-16, Scouts. {image}

Bad Bad entry...

Pls do not leave your scouts way beyond enemy line...

Sonic
  • #68,216
  • Apr 2, 2014 11:39pm Apr 2, 2014 11:39pm
GbpJpy

PVSRA left more clues today!
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-AdrianC.
  • #68,217
  • Apr 2, 2014 11:49pm Apr 2, 2014 11:49pm
Quoting diginime
AU PVSRA Personally, i think AU still have the potential bear. As previous high volume at low i would consider it as a stop the drop volume. Furthermore 0.93 area seems to form a double top. As the time i type it seems to start to form a classic short. let see how it goes. As till for now, i still do not see significant volume at low price. I'll go long if it has big volume at low. =) {image}
Taken profit 0.92175, 4 parts win, average 20-30 pips each =), now it's time to buy, volume spike at area 0.92175, and support forming, let see how it goes =) wait for classic sonic =)
  • #68,218
  • Apr 2, 2014 11:53pm Apr 2, 2014 11:53pm
Quoting diginime
{quote} Taken profit 0.92175, 4 parts win, average 20-30 pips each =), now it's time to buy, volume spike at area 0.92175, and support forming, let see how it goes =) wait for classic sonic =)
Nice nice! Btw, thanks for guiding me last time!

-AdrianC.
  • #68,219
  • Apr 3, 2014 12:01am Apr 3, 2014 12:01am
Quoting AdrianC
{quote} Nice nice! Btw, thanks for guiding me last time! -AdrianC.
Sharing is caring like Master Sonic and Master TAH said
  • #68,220
  • Edited 12:30am Apr 3, 2014 12:04am | Edited 12:30am
Quoting sonicdeejay
{quote} Bad Bad entry... Pls do not leave your scouts way beyond enemy line... Sonic
PVSRA: GBPJPY, Bulls or Bears?

According to previous PVSRA the MMs are bears that delayed their "Run for Profits" phase, and about 300 pips lower they transitioned back into the "Position Building" phase, accumulating short orders at the highs of each of their new whips up in price.

This picture clearly shows that even after the MMs got the price above the current whole number, in order to be able to accumulate a lot of shorts, they further hiked the price on increasing volume, selling as they went up, and then had a climax sell-off from the very top of their push. This climax sell-off did take the price back below the whole number, briefly, but not so much that the price manipulating MMs couldn't immediately bring the price right back up for even more selling!

This PVSRA indicates the MMs are extremely greedy bears now, and that could mean they are possibly now getting ready for the "Run for Profits" phase.

My guess is that my most recently inserted Commando Scouts are the ones that are going to be the most effective.

-tah
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