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  • #68,001
  • Edited 5:36pm Mar 29, 2014 3:47pm | Edited 5:36pm
PVSRA Results for 1st Fifty Two Weeks
The following are the results of my trading the Sonic R. System using PVSRA to determine if it is a bull or bear market, and then trading the price action I see.

Week ending 04/05
1289 pips gained, 7 trades totaling 19 parts (18 parts winners), averaging 67+ pips per each of all parts.

Week ending 04/12
1891 pips gained, 9 trades totaling 28 parts (all parts winners), averaging 67+ pips per each of all parts.

Week ending 04/19
2160 pips gained, 9 trades totaling 31 parts (29 parts winners), averaging 69+ pips per each of all parts.

Week ending 04/26
2640 pips gained, 6 trades totaling 34 parts (all parts winners), averaging 77+ pips per each of all parts.

Week ending 05/03
2530 pips gained, 6 trades totaling 24 parts (23 parts winners), averaging 105+ pips per each of all parts.

Week ending 05/10
3050 pips gained, 7 trades totaling 33 parts (all parts winners), averaging 92+ pips per each of all parts.

Week ending 05/17
1590 pips gained, 7 trades totaling 16 parts (all parts winners), averaging 99+ pips per each of all parts.

Week ending 05/24
3980 pips gained, 7 trades totaling 40 parts (33 parts winners), averaging 99+ pips per each of all parts.

Week ending 05/31
4003 pips gained, 5 trades totaling 37 parts (34 parts winners), averaging 108+ pips per each of all parts.

Week ending 06/07
9813 pips gained, 9 trades totaling 61 parts (53 parts winners), averaging 160+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 06/14
3900 pips gained, 2 trades totaling 15 parts (all parts winners), averaging 260+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 06/21
4620 pips gained, 3 trades totaling 33 parts (all parts winners), averaging 140+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 06/28
12,120 pips gained, 8 trades totaling 86 parts (82 parts winners), averaging 140+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 07/05
3,440 pips gained, 2 trades totaling 22 parts (18 parts winners), averaging 156+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 07/12
14,143 pips gained, 11 trades totaling 125 parts (115 parts winners), averaging 113+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 07/19
215 pips gained, 2 trades totaling 7 parts (all parts winners), averaging 30+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 07/26
1,170 pips gained, 2 trades totaling 25 parts (16 parts winners), averaging 46+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 08/02
10,850 pips gained, 8 trades totaling 102 parts (87 parts winners), averaging 106+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 08/09
7,784 pips gained, 4 trades totaling 72 parts (50 parts winners), averaging 108+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 08/16
(-250) pips gained, 1 trades totaling 3 parts (0 parts winners), averaging -83+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 08/23
6,750 pips gained, 3 trades totaling 49 parts (42 parts winners), averaging 137+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 08/30
6,785 pips gained, 8 trades totaling 68 parts (64 parts winners), averaging 99+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 09/06
178 pips gained, 2 trades totaling 6 parts (all parts winners), averaging 29+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 09/13
2,330 pips gained, 3 trades totaling 40 parts (34 parts winners), averaging 58+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 09/20
64,268 pips lost, 8 trades totaling 107 parts (6 parts winners), averaging -600 pips per each of all parts

Week ending 09/27
364 pips gained, 4 trades totaling 16 parts (8 parts winners), averaging 22+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 10/04
6,710 pips lost, 7 trades totaling 27 parts (11 parts winners), averaging -419 pips per each of all parts

Week ending 10/11
586 pips lost, 8 trades affected, 42 parts involved (34 parts gain, 7 parts lose), averaging -14 pips per each of all parts

Week ending 10/18
19,611 pips lost, 6 trades affected, 76 parts involved (14 parts gain, 62 parts lose), averaging -213 pips per each of all parts

Week ending 10/25
14,401 pips lost, 8 trades affected, 77 parts involved (0 parts gain, 77 parts lose), averaging -66 pips per each of all parts

Week ending 11/01
8,320 pips gained, 4 trades affected, 105 parts involved (101 parts gain, 4 parts lose), averaging +79 pips per each of all parts

Week ending 11/08
7,527 pips gained, 3 trades affected, 78 parts involved (78 parts gain, 0 parts lose), averaging 96+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 11/15
2,504 pips gained, 3 trades affected, 8 parts involved (5 parts gain, 3 parts lose), averaging 313+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 11/22
9,875 pips gained, 25 trades affected, 176 parts involved (157 parts gain, 19 parts lose), averaging 56+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 11/29
4,833 pips lost, 11 trades affected, 230 parts involved (138 parts gain, 95 parts lose), averaging -21 pips per each of all parts

Week ending 12/06
4,335 pips lost, 7 trades affected, 27 parts involved (17 parts gain, 10 parts lose), averaging -160 pips per each of all parts

Week ending 12/13
3,033 pips lost, 3 trades affected, 12 parts involved (7 parts gain, 5 parts lose), averaging -253 pips per each of all parts

Week ending 12/20
620 pips gained, 3 trades affected, 6 parts involved (4 parts gain, 2 parts lose), averaging +103 pips per each of all parts

Week ending 12/27
2,097 pips lost, 4 trades affected, 11 parts involved (5 parts gain, 6 parts lose), averaging -190 pips per each of all parts

Week ending 01/03
702 pips gained, 6 trades affected, 53 parts involved (38 parts gain, 15 parts lose), averaging -13 pips per each of all parts

Week ending 01/10
1,058 pips gained, 4 trades affected, 20 parts involved (19 parts gain, 1 parts lose), averaging 52+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 01/17
9,007 pips gained, 13 trades affected, 97 parts involved (78 parts gain, 19 parts lose), averaging 92+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 01/24
5,938 pips gained, 10 trades affected, 100 parts involved (77 parts gain, 23 parts lose), averaging 59+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 01/31
4,268 pips gained, 60 trades affected, 78 parts involved (71 parts gain, 7 parts lose), averaging 54+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 02/07
11,154 pips gained, 75 trades affected, 115 parts involved (100 parts gain, 15 parts lose), averaging 97+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 02/14
8,721 pips gained, 44 trades affected, 68 parts involved (68 parts gain, 0 parts lose), averaging 128+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 02/21
3,403 pips gained, 41 trades affected, 61 parts involved (58 parts gain, 3 parts lose), averaging 55+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 02/28
3,844 pips gained, 37 trades affected, 78 parts involved (58 parts gain, 20 parts lose), averaging 49+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 03/07
9,190 pips gained, 62 trades affected, 90 parts involved (88 parts gain, 2 parts lose), averaging 102+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 03/14
2,042 pips gained, 13 trades affected, 13 parts involved (13 parts gain, 0 parts lose), averaging 157+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 03/21
381 pips gained, 1 trade affected, 4 parts involved (4 parts gain, 0 parts lose), averaging 95+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 03/28
5,073 pips gained, 23 trades affected, 23 parts involved (20 parts gain, 3 parts lose), averaging 220+ pips per each of all parts

All of these trades, all of the trade parts thereof, were posted real-time right here on the Sonic R. System thread, using crystal clear easy to understand charts and explanations regarding PVSRA reasons for entries, whether Classic or Scout trades.

Summary Week Fifty Two
80,628 pips banked.
4,554 pips current draw down (net loss of all open PVSRA trades).
76,084 pips net gain (pips banked plus net loss of all open PVSRA trades).
1,463 pips weekly average net gain (weekly average net gain if all open PVSRA trades instantly closed).

Summary Remarks
Our new indicators and templates were released a week ago for the new MT4 Builds 600+ and are working fine. Post #1 of this thread has been thoroughly edited and updated, not only with the link to the new indicators and templates, but with plenty of other information to help everyone get quickly adjusted to this thread. Every Sonicer should re-read Post #1. Trading this week was profitable, with most trade parts closed at profit and for an average of over 220 pips gain per every part! There are still some open trades that need more time to come around, though.

This completes the full year of tracking my trades based on PVSRA, as I said I would. Things got off to a great start, but inexperience with PVSRA and over-enthusiasm resulted in overextending, which in turn resulted in huge draw downs and eventually losses. Yet, the PVSRA in-work project continued, and with more caution and dedication which resulted in great improvement. So, after 52 weeks, I am happy to report my success with PVSRA, with an average of 1,463 pips gained weekly for 52 weeks in a row! Most traders lose their money. They fail and they leave the market. The market feeds off of these losses from traders. If you look back thru this report, you can see how great the losses were. Yet in the end, with the Sonic R. System and PVSRA, I have won! And so can every other trader win, with the Sonic R. System and PVSRA properly applied, and with caution to not overextend themselves.


-tah
  • #68,002
  • Mar 29, 2014 5:45pm Mar 29, 2014 5:45pm
Quoting MusicMoney
{quote} This is very true--and yes, the trend has changed. However, trends don't change instantly, and [whether you want to believe in the concept or not] there is a time element involved-- and being able to recognize and capitalize on the swings turns out to be more profitable in the long run-- and better entries can be made as well While against your thread rules [and I apologize for my earlier posts; hopefully my last couple were acceptable--albeit by poor skills in MS Paint]-- I am attaching a chart as an example [AUDUSD] -- while no indicator...
MusicMoney,

For one thing, I never ever said that trends change instantly. Don't put words into my mouth so that you can try to score points.

For another thing, if you believe any "time element" is so involved in any reliable way, why are you here instead of wealthy and retired?

Cut the bullshit. Post live trades start to finish, so that others here can see how you do. If they aren't trades of the Sonic R. System, then start your own thread, so others can see how successful it becomes based on your own beliefs and trades.

-tah
  • #68,003
  • Mar 29, 2014 5:52pm Mar 29, 2014 5:52pm
Quoting Chicky
{quote} Patterns are nothing but illusions. Every move makes one out of scores of possible patterns. Don't believe me, look at the charts to see what pattern it would have formed if a move had occured in the opposite direction or even pa had remain sidelines. You will get a pattern.
Chicky,

Some points to be made:

1. Patters can be illusions, or not. The MMs can produce them to mislead, but they can also occur and complete.

2. So far as "Every move makes one out of scores of possible patterns." is concerned, as you graduate up the scale from the lower TFs bits and pieces to the bigger picture, they become more important. I have posted based on the DAY chart and the WEEK chart, neither of which can be considered an insignificant bit or piece, or an illusion.

Of course, as I repeatedly admonish, we cannot know how price will move next. So what good is it to take note of higher TF patterns? Simple. If price starts to move in the direction of pattern completion, then we have another clue for such things as targets, which we might keep our eye on even in the face of repeated retraces, big or small, in the opposite direction.

-tah
  • #68,004
  • Mar 29, 2014 6:00pm Mar 29, 2014 6:00pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} Chicky, Some points to be made: 1. Patters can be illusions, or not. The MMs can produce them to mislead, but they can also occur and complete. 2. So far as "Every move makes one out of scores of possible patterns." is concerned, as you graduate up the scale from the lower TFs bits and pieces to the bigger picture, they become more important. I have posted based on the DAY chart and the WEEK chart, neither of which can be considered an insignificant bit or piece, or an illusion. Of course, as I repeatedly admonish, we cannot know how price...
There are many branches of technicals but after years of trading I have come to this one conclusion that world events move the market and market may not respond logically to all these events. However, I find technicals useful only to exit from a profitable trade. Losing trades are closed based on risk management.
The Thief of Wall Street
  • #68,005
  • Edited 6:42pm Mar 29, 2014 6:00pm | Edited 6:42pm
Quoting elcurioso
I would like to contribute my views on GBPJPY. - In the chart below we can see several SHS. However, they really are not, because I understand that SHS is from a previous trend ... Some of these figures could be triangles or cups and handles, which is more typical of corrective figures. In the second chart I present my view on the situation of the pair GBPJPY, which is still far from being defined. As you can see, this world is very subjective. You have to follow the money and bet where most likely find. Of course, this pair eventually fall out...
elcurioso,

I suggest that before you "contribute" any more of your "views" that you go back to reading and learning, so that when you next "contribute", you might actually know what you are talking about. You cannot have an inverted H&S at the top of PA, or at the tops of steps of rising PA. An inverted/inverse H&S is valid only at the bottom of PA:
http://www.chartpatterns.com/invtdhe...lderschrts.htm

"This pattern is the opposite of the popular head and shoulders pattern, but is used to predict shifts in a downtrend rather than an uptrend." :
http://www.investopedia.com/terms/i/...dshoulders.asp

This chart of yours shows what an uniformed, opinionated novice you are. You've already shown yourself to not be a Sonicer. Why then, you come back here to post such nonsense views, is beyond comprehension.

I also notice that since leaving this thread, you have not posted a single real-time trade anywhere on Forex Factory. May I respectfully suggest that you should show folks how well you can do thru what you know, by posting real-time trades that they can look at, and follow to their completion. Why don't you start your own thread, that way those folks only interested in reading "views" will know right where to go.

-tah
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  • #68,006
  • Edited 6:32pm Mar 29, 2014 6:21pm | Edited 6:32pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} Chicky, Some points to be made: 1. Patters can be illusions, or not. The MMs can produce them to mislead, but they can also occur and complete. 2. So far as "Every move makes one out of scores of possible patterns." is concerned, as you graduate up the scale from the lower TFs bits and pieces to the bigger picture, they become more important. I have posted based on the DAY chart and the WEEK chart, neither of which can be considered an insignificant bit or piece, or an illusion. Of course, as I repeatedly admonish, we cannot know how price...
Quoting Chicky
{quote} There are many branches of technicals but after years of trading I have come to this one conclusion that world events move the market and market may not respond logically to all these events. However, I find technicals useful only to exit from a profitable trade. Losing trades are closed based on risk management.
Chicky,

I posted:
So what good is it to take note of higher TF patterns? Simple. If price starts to move in the direction of pattern completion, then we have another clue for such things as targets, which we might keep our eye on even in the face of repeated retraces, big or small, in the opposite direction.

You posted:
I find technicals useful only to exit from a profitable trade.

So, I think we are on the same track here. And my purpose in posting the GJ H&S and "M" patterns in the first place was to indicate their low "targets", which would be mighty big incentives for the MMs to be pumping prices now for the loading of shorts. I never said the patterns were destined to complete. I never said we can, by such patterns, automatically predict how price will move next. Quite the contrary, I am always saying that we cannot know how price will move next, but that we can know if the MMs are bulls or are bears. And if folks have a hard time believing in bears at this stage of PA, then maybe they should consider the high TF formations that are forming, their targets, and therefore the incentive the MMs might have for being bears. After all, price does not go up forever.

This is "possibility" thinking, which extends beyond worthless predicting based on fundamentals and technicals. It goes to the heart of the matter,....the greed of the Market Makers.

-tah
  • #68,007
  • Mar 29, 2014 6:44pm Mar 29, 2014 6:44pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} elcurioso, I suggest that before you "contribute" any more of your "views" that you go back to reading and learning, so that when you next "contribute", you might actually know what you are talking about. You cannot have an inverted H&S at the top of PA, or at the tops of steps of rising PA. An inverted/inverse H&S is valid only at the bottom of PA: http://www.chartpatterns.com/invtdhe...lderschrts.htm "This pattern is the opposite of the popular head and shoulders pattern, but is used to predict shifts in a downtrend rather...

If you read my post well, you'll see that I say that these figures are not really SHS. And in the chart below show what I really see.
Take this opportunity to thank your posts 67,964 and 67,966 sonicers where, if they are aware, they can learn a lot.
Adaptarse es la clave
  • #68,008
  • Mar 29, 2014 7:34pm Mar 29, 2014 7:34pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} {quote} Chicky, I posted: So what good is it to take note of higher TF patterns? Simple. If price starts to move in the direction of pattern completion, then we have another clue for such things as targets, which we might keep our eye on even in the face of repeated retraces, big or small, in the opposite direction. You posted: I find technicals useful only to exit from a profitable trade. So, I think we are on the same track here. And my purpose in posting the GJ H&S and "M" patterns in the first place was to indicate their low "targets",...
what you are saying is right, especially on bigger timeframes. I don't know about others but it is difficult for me to identify patterns when they are in the making. That's why I get the entry clue from recent short-term moves but exit based on longer-term technicals. H&S, cup and handle, W and M are the only ones I ever used.
The Thief of Wall Street
  • #68,009
  • Mar 29, 2014 9:59pm Mar 29, 2014 9:59pm
In Japan fiscal year ends on the 31. March 2014. I recommend to be careful with the Yen pairs.
If you think you can do a thing or think you can't do a thing, you're right
  • #68,010
  • Mar 29, 2014 11:11pm Mar 29, 2014 11:11pm
Quoting traderathome
PVSRA Results for 1st Fifty Two Weeks The following are the results of my trading the Sonic R. System using PVSRA to determine if it is a bull or bear market, and then trading the price action I see. Week ending 04/05 1289 pips gained, 7 trades totaling 19 parts (18 parts winners), averaging 67+ pips per each of all parts. Week ending 04/12 1891 pips gained, 9 trades totaling 28 parts (all parts winners), averaging 67+ pips per each of all parts. Week ending 04/19 2160 pips gained, 9 trades totaling 31 parts (29 parts winners), averaging 69+ pips...

Hello TAH, may i know how many pips for your initial capital pls? 10000 pips?
  • #68,011
  • Mar 30, 2014 3:29am Mar 30, 2014 3:29am
I have tested on 16 pairs all possible patterns for some time when they have completed with an indicator. Of course the indicator repaints therefore i have painted all patterns manually to see if they fail or not. (Targeting B-point after completing/tested on a demo) The result was a little bit over 40/60. The higher TF worked better. Its have also depend of pairs, jpy-pairs showed more patterns for example. If you add your analysis of S/R and the pattern ends at SR the chances were higher. (Sorry for bad English)
Scan all 28 Forex pairs with ONE chart... Currency Strength28 Indicators
  • #68,012
  • Edited 5:10am Mar 30, 2014 3:54am | Edited 5:10am
The market can not be predicted. But, as we can imagine a possible pattern construction, we can also imagine scenarios based on price action and based on analysis of probability ...
I imagined the scenarios below, for me, the most probable.
Again, the market is unpredictable. This is just an exercise in what I think most likely. I can be wrong. But I want to share with you.
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Adaptarse es la clave
  • #68,013
  • Mar 30, 2014 6:23am Mar 30, 2014 6:23am
what does "whole number" mean ? It's mean Integer?
  • #68,014
  • Mar 30, 2014 6:36am Mar 30, 2014 6:36am
"whole number" 是什么意思？ 怎么解释？怎么在图表上找到这个位置？知道的烦请告知，谢谢！
  • #68,015
  • Mar 30, 2014 7:17am Mar 30, 2014 7:17am
Quoting zouleisheng
what does "whole number" mean ? It's mean Integer?
Examples:

EURUSD.- 1.3600; 1.3700; 1.3800 ...
EURJPY.- 140.00; 141.00; 142.00 ...
Adaptarse es la clave
  • #68,016
  • Mar 30, 2014 7:24am Mar 30, 2014 7:24am
Quoting elcurioso
{quote} Examples: EURUSD.- 1.3600; 1.3700; 1.3800 ... EURJPY.- 140.00; 141.00; 142.00 ...
I see,thanks!
  • #68,017
  • Mar 30, 2014 1:03pm Mar 30, 2014 1:03pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} GBPJPY Short Trade Update: Added shorts #5-15, Scouts. Some disagree with my manner of trading, but there are some things I know. I know that we cannot know how price will move next. I know that the deceiving & thieving, corrupt Market Making Banks make their money by moving price against a valid trade direction to "fool & fold" others, thereby stealing their money. I know that via PVSRA we can determine if these MMs are bulls or bears. I know we can, if we trade lightly, take advantage of the MM's price manipulations when they are trying...
Dear Tah,

There seems to be a small misunderstanding for me, as the volume candles are different for different brokers. Could you please suggest me a broker to do the analyses as, the volume candles of my broker are much more different from yours.

http://charts.mql5.com/4/307/gbpjpy-...oker-inc-4.png
  • #68,018
  • Mar 30, 2014 2:50pm Mar 30, 2014 2:50pm
Quoting elcurioso
The market can not be predicted. But, as we can imagine a possible pattern construction, we can also imagine scenarios based on price action and based on analysis of probability ... I imagined the scenarios below, for me, the most probable. Again, the market is unpredictable. This is just an exercise in what I think most likely. I can be wrong. But I want to share with you. {image}
use the freakin template dude or dont post here
  • #68,019
  • Mar 30, 2014 3:14pm Mar 30, 2014 3:14pm
Quoting Pipocrates
{quote} use the freakin template dude or dont post here
I have no template yet. I get the template, and not be posting here anymore. Meanwhile, I wish you all the best and have a good trading.
Adaptarse es la clave
  • #68,020
  • Mar 30, 2014 3:25pm Mar 30, 2014 3:25pm
Quoting elcurioso
{quote} I have no template yet. I get the template, and not be posting here anymore. Meanwhile, I wish you all the best and have a good trading.
NO pic with Sonic template, NO post. Simple.
If you think you can do a thing or think you can't do a thing, you're right
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