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  • #886,861
  • Mar 28, 2014 12:59pm Mar 28, 2014 12:59pm
Quoting Vachus
{quote} If this statement is true, Saudi Arabia, Russia and Qatar would be the ones controlling the world ... but they are not! China as a regime and United States army do. From this two, only USA can engage in a war for 10 years without as much of sweat. This for the reason, why USA is on top of the world. As for the Dollar, i do not really see how the dollar can continue to survive, in the next ten years. Let's talk first about returning the outsources factories from China and Asia , then lower cost of production.
ans is only war business chaos...suck bu usa ..dollar survive
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  • #886,862
  • Mar 28, 2014 1:08pm Mar 28, 2014 1:08pm
Quoting Vachus
{quote} If this statement is true, Saudi Arabia, Russia and Qatar would be the ones controlling the world ... but they are not! China as a regime and United States army do. From this two, only USA can engage in a war for 10 years without as much of sweat. This for the reason, why USA is on top of the world. As for the Dollar, i do not really see how the dollar can continue to survive, in the next ten years. Let's talk first about returning the outsources factories from China and Asia , then lower cost of production.
those 3d machines will improve. they even now can make shoes and clothing. just imagine what a hundred thousand can do.

its hard to get a firm Number on oil gdp in russia. lets say its 20%. (very conservative) and russia has a 2.5% estimate on gdp growth. at 100$ oil. then oil drops to 75$.... gdp now 0
lots of pain there.. we saw this in the arab summer when oil dropped. it also was reflected in russia. the u.s. has a strategic reason for oil price stability. we dont want a world war.. and the longer a stable higher price is there, the market side of production will increase. when the u.s. is producing so much in the future. things will be even more unstable. any easing by the fed, and the drop in oil prices, is a big deal.
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  • #886,863
  • Mar 28, 2014 1:15pm Mar 28, 2014 1:15pm
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} those 3d machines will improve. they even now can make shoes and clothing. just imagine what a hundred thousand can do. its hard to get a firm Number on oil gdp in russia. lets say its 20%. (very conservative) and russia has a 2.5% estimate on gdp growth. at 100$ oil. then oil drops to 75$.... gdp now 0 lots of pain there.. we saw this in the arab summer when oil dropped. it also was reflected in russia. the u.s. has a strategic reason for oil price stability. we dont want a world war.. and the longer a stable higher price is there, the...
one day us will size up by nature.........
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  • #886,864
  • Mar 28, 2014 1:20pm Mar 28, 2014 1:20pm
3D printing will disrupt everything in the coming years, cheap manufacturing in Asia will die first. We will not need China anymore.. Next to that, will disrupt commerce, big corporations, taxation, pretty much all the consumer markets as we know them and the state regulating them...

http://reason.com/archives/2014/03/24/the-3d-economy

edit: Add bitcoin to the mix, and maybe move more sophisticated printing "to the cloud" so to speak and everything changes.. exciting times..
  • #886,865
  • Mar 28, 2014 1:27pm Mar 28, 2014 1:27pm
Update of my Eur D charts. I added the green TL which gives us a rising wedge.
If I had to trade the euro, this time I'll not buy it but wait and see.
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  • #886,866
  • Mar 28, 2014 1:33pm Mar 28, 2014 1:33pm
Quoting dashisiong
{quote} Look simple and easy....
  • #886,867
  • Mar 28, 2014 1:35pm Mar 28, 2014 1:35pm
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} those 3d machines will improve. they even now can make shoes and clothing. just imagine what a hundred thousand can do.
More of a science fiction ( Star Trek's replicator ) than an actual science... the 3rd machines, if it were to be a mass producer - the amount of electricity required is immeasurable. I'm sure the producers of such machines, are benefiting from such a premise. However, since the only two sources of mass production of electricity is nuclear or natural gas. Also, given the assumption these machines will take great period of time to deliver current levels of production under the same cost. The only conclusion is: Rise cost of production, as the dollar as a currency lose purchasing power over time.

Quoting attila
Add bitcoin to the mix, and maybe move more sophisticated printing "to the cloud" so to speak and everything changes.. exciting times..
The day a cloud server can fight a war, or enforces a VAT or taxing system or issue a citizenship passport - than we can call it's electronic products " A currency". ATM can not issue colored money, as the nation army can raid the bank's branches and cease everything, they hold dear. In a simplistic form, a currency is an oppression tool, used by a government to force u to accept it and trade goods and services. ( Apology, if i sound condescending)
"It's the Margin, Stupid."
  • #886,868
  • Mar 28, 2014 1:40pm Mar 28, 2014 1:40pm
Good news for the people who are building USD long positions.

CTFC just went out and said that USD longs are clean, which means its possible to start build USD longs from here on.
In the EUR/USD, the net euro long is still relativily big, so long covering if ECB helps could help you guys out.
  • #886,869
  • Mar 28, 2014 1:49pm Mar 28, 2014 1:49pm
Quoting Vachus
{quote} More of a science fiction ( Star Trek's replicator ) than an actual science... the 3rd machines, if it were to be a mass producer - the amount of electricity required is immeasurable. I'm sure the producers of such machines, are benefiting from such a premise. However, since the only two sources of mass production of electricity is nuclear or natural gas. Also, given the assumption these machines will take great period of time to deliver current levels of production under the same cost. The only conclusion is: Rise cost of production, as...
There will be a point where the state will be over ran by what's going on... They won't be able to stop it because other states won't even try... At that point it's game over.. a true world economy, one currency with everything built from the bottom up... no need for wars... I'm thinking 50-100 years here..

I know it sounds SiFi.. I was reading the other day about advances in quantum computing.. This will open things we can't even imagine today... One that strikes out: Absolute and guaranteed privacy... This one alone will fuck the state really bad..
  • #886,870
  • Mar 28, 2014 1:52pm Mar 28, 2014 1:52pm
Quoting attila
{quote} There will be a point where the state will be over ran by what's going on... They won't be able to stop it because other states won't even try... At that point it's game over.. a true world economy, one currency with everything built from the bottom up... no need for wars... I'm thinking 50-100 years here..
I understand the point, and it's trending now under " new world order". However, this will require new economic thinking and new employment structure. One thing for sure, the Nixon's cheap money printing is about to be over. The reason is, a united universal currency requires under current economic understanding " a fiscal unification". This is the same challenge facing Europe integration now. Eventually, competition model will cease to exist - as current economical structure is based on nations stealing jobs from each other.
"It's the Margin, Stupid."
  • #886,871
  • Mar 28, 2014 1:53pm Mar 28, 2014 1:53pm
Quoting Vachus
{quote} More of a science fiction ( Star Trek's replicator ) than an actual science... the 3rd machines, if it were to be a mass producer - the amount of electricity required is immeasurable. I'm sure the producers of such machines, are benefiting from such a premise. However, since the only two sources of mass production of electricity is nuclear or natural gas. Also, given the assumption these machines will take great period of time to deliver current levels of production under the same cost. The only conclusion is: Rise cost...
its = to the amount already used to make the same thing presently. future machines will make more machines as they have done for the last 40 years.
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  • #886,872
  • Mar 28, 2014 1:55pm Mar 28, 2014 1:55pm
Quoting Vachus
{quote} I understand the point, and it's trending now under " new world order". However, this will require new economic thinking and new employment structure. One thing for sure, the Nixon's cheap money printing is about to be over. The reason is, a united universal currency requires under current economic understanding " a fiscal unification". This is the same challenge facing Europe integration now. Eventually, competition model will cease to exist - as current economical structure is based on nations stealing jobs from each other.
see my edit.. things will change at a very fast pace, we can already see/feel it..
  • #886,873
  • Mar 28, 2014 2:06pm Mar 28, 2014 2:06pm
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} its = to the amount already used to make the same thing presently. future machines will make more machines as they have done for the last 40 years. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjAZGUcjrP8
Monsieur Gator, the module of mass production took almost 100 years to reach full employment. If we talk about the start of manufacturing revolution, then we are talking about 200 years. How many years it took to deliver the hybrid cars and how much is it?! How many years have been hearing about the Green bubble? Honestly, do you even have something in ur household works, with green technology ...

So, in the next 100 years - the 3rd machines could print humans But, if USA does not bring back it's own factories ' in sourcing', i do not think it will survive to see the day. Germany, was once a great developed nation, with great scientists and rocket science inventions.

Quoting attila
{quote} see my edit.. things will change at a very fast pace, we can already see/feel it..
The only development i see rapid, is the telecommunication one ... the rest is the same! Programming exploded in the last few years, still any medium size factory or something in the physical world have old production assets. ( Man, they can not find the Malaysian aeroplane till today ..)
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  • #886,874
  • Mar 28, 2014 2:20pm Mar 28, 2014 2:20pm
Quoting Vachus
{quote} Monsieur Gator, the module of mass production took almost 100 years to reach full employment. If we talk about the start of manufacturing revolution, then we are talking about 200 years. How many years it took to deliver the hybrid cars and how much is it?! How many years have been hearing about the Green bubble? Honestly, do you even have something in ur household works, with green technology ... So, in the next 100 years - the 3rd machines could print humans But, if USA does not bring back it's own factories ' in sourcing', i do not...
They'll find it. It's one of those things where everything went wrong..

As to telecommunication, I remember 20 years ago it cost me 800 bux/month to talk on the phone to the old country.. After the deregulation and all, it costs about 10 dollars today, and even free for video chats... Internet? There was a time we were charged by the minute.. Now google adds fiber and it's free... All these opened up IT (and other specialties) guys be able to work from India or wherever like they would be here, etc. Everything builds on what's before, and it's all exponential... Pretty soon things we talk about today will be absolite... How did we live without cell phones 15 years ago? kind of thing... I still remember the pay phones on the street..
  • #886,875
  • Mar 28, 2014 2:23pm Mar 28, 2014 2:23pm
"pay phones on the street.."

whats that?

jap, skyrocketing development and it aint stopping
  • #886,876
  • Mar 28, 2014 2:25pm Mar 28, 2014 2:25pm
Quoting Vachus
{quote} Monsieur Gator, the module of mass production took almost 100 years to reach full employment. If we talk about the start of manufacturing revolution, then we are talking about 200 years. How many years it took to deliver the hybrid cars and how much is it?! How many years have been hearing about the Green bubble? Honestly, do you even have something in ur household works, with green technology ... So, in the next 100 years - the 3rd machines could print humans But, if USA does not bring back it's own factories ' in sourcing', i do not...
sorry man, it took thousands of years from the wheel to space. then 80 from a car to space. 3d is already here. its already being used... they were using stamping machines to make car hoods,fenders, pots etc in the 1920ties.. 3d has been around before then, 100 years ago +.. ben franklin used one to write. then before then, books and other forms of art. the same principle..
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  • #886,877
  • Mar 28, 2014 2:34pm Mar 28, 2014 2:34pm
gotta run, it was fun. i got a great tip on some buggy whip factory stock. its gonna be dark soon and i have to saddle up the horse and get some candles. i have to meet my broker. he sent me an urgent message by carrier. i need to hurry
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  • #886,878
  • Mar 28, 2014 2:38pm Mar 28, 2014 2:38pm
Quoting attila
{quote} How did we live without cell phones 15 years ago? kind of thing... I still remember the pay phones on the street..
Since we are here, i can assure u we survived Man, i'm not that young- i still remember pay phone and charging interest using modem per minute. In the real physical world, things are not that exponential ... only programming and virtual world, as it require modeling, servers and processor. You know, there are companies have ships transferring goods and services by sea, 40 years old. Maybe, because of your programming experience - you forget how the real world works

Quoting gatorinla
{quote} sorry man, it took thousands of years from the wheel to space. then 80 from a car to space. 3d is already here. its already being used... they were using stamping machines to make car hoods,fenders, pots etc in the 1920ties.. 3d has been around before then, 100 years ago +.. ben franklin used one to write. then before then, books and other forms of art. the same principle..
In evolution, the rise of a specie is not by presence only but ability to eat competition. I did not deny the existence of 3rd machines, i merely doubt it's ability to replace traditional manufacturing capabilities in the next 200 years or so. The moment the real world update it's assets, the same way a software i have on my PC updates every few weeks, i will take what you see for granted.

For now, 3rd printing's bubble will burst, just like her latest sister ' Green energy'.
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  • #886,879
  • Mar 28, 2014 3:55pm Mar 28, 2014 3:55pm
Quoting attila
{quote} They'll find it. It's one of those things where everything went wrong.. As to telecommunication, I remember 20 years ago it cost me 800 bux/month to talk on the phone to the old country.. After the deregulation and all, it costs about 10 dollars today, and even free for video chats... Internet? There was a time we were charged by the minute.. Now google adds fiber and it's free... All these opened up IT (and other specialties) guys be able to work from India or wherever like they would be here, etc. Everything builds on what's before, and...
Reminds me.... When I was being peer pressured into buying a cell...my argument was, " there are pay phones everywhere for cents on the dollar".... why would anyone need to pay a monthly fee to talk on a phone????

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  • #886,880
  • Mar 28, 2014 4:16pm Mar 28, 2014 4:16pm
Still in war zone
waiting daily close at one camp to join
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