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  • #885,581
  • Mar 24, 2014 2:01pm Mar 24, 2014 2:01pm
Quoting Prochartist
{quote} Stop lose always will make you lose... we are at top on eurusd ... just use good risk management to survive till 1.42 and sell with no sl
totally agreed when i still watching the charts on screen...but not when i going to sleep
Patience, let the market come to you!
  • #885,582
  • Mar 24, 2014 2:02pm Mar 24, 2014 2:02pm
Quoting Citiboy
{quote} My leverage is too much to be eating that much drawdown... I im wrong by 30-50 points I usually get out. Now I will wait for things to develop, maybe sell a break of 1.3750.
here's an easy risk management to remember giving each trade 1000 pips to play
for each 100$ you have in your account u can open 1 trade 0.01
for each 1000$ in your account 0.1
and for 10k you can open 1.0
it's easy as drinking water
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  • #885,583
  • Mar 24, 2014 2:03pm Mar 24, 2014 2:03pm
I'm guessing some here have taken some losses today. I cannot understand the consternation about this up-move. Even if it is stop-hunting, that's part of speculative activity! Fundamentals often don't mean shit. Human beings speculating, mass crowd psychology, how is the market supposed to be an efficient mechanism for measuring global fundamentals??

During the last non-farm better than expected US data caused an up-spike in the EUR/USD!
It'll be alright on the night
  • #885,584
  • Mar 24, 2014 2:04pm Mar 24, 2014 2:04pm
Quoting Citiboy
{quote} My leverage is too much to be eating that much drawdown... I im wrong by 30-50 points I usually get out. Now I will wait for things to develop, maybe sell a break of 1.3750.
same here .. i was 4 lots long since fri at 1.3798 and yesterday got out 1.3780 after blowin half of my acc i couldve made 4 times my acc by now lol i'm thinking of shorting it too at 3870ish on a super high lev for may be 20 pips
got pips!
  • #885,585
  • Mar 24, 2014 2:08pm Mar 24, 2014 2:08pm
Quoting sami4240
{quote} go ahead and evaluate .. your time starts now
let's start a fast evaluation by answering those simple questions
1- in total and along all your trading years, did you took from the market money or you gave money for the market more then what you did earn?
2- when you talk about forex you feel even you make your self lost?
3- do you feel there is cameras behind your head when you enter a trade someone go against you?
4- when u lose big you just sleep and you don't care what will happen instead of managing your lost with hedging and other?
5- do u see your self after 10 years from now a billionair from forex?

waiting your answers
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  • #885,586
  • Mar 24, 2014 2:09pm Mar 24, 2014 2:09pm
Quoting itrader007
{quote} same here .. i was 4 lots long since fri at 1.3798 and yesterday got out 1.3780 after blowin half of my acc i couldve made 4 times my acc by now lol i'm thinking of shorting it too at 3870ish on a super high lev for may be 20 pips
go to the casino and put all your money on black or red. it will save time and improve your odds.
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #885,587
  • Mar 24, 2014 2:10pm Mar 24, 2014 2:10pm
Quoting dashisiong
{quote} totally agreed when i still watching the charts on screen...but not when i going to sleep
if you still using stop lose which mean you are trading with greed ... when you stop using stop lose which mean you endup professional in risk management
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  • #885,588
  • Mar 24, 2014 2:10pm Mar 24, 2014 2:10pm
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} trading is about trading. its not about being right or wrong. its being nimble enough to know the market is right even if wrong. opinions in trading are worth as much as a stock tip, some good most bad. your or my definition of market psychology does not mean anything. your either right or wrong, and one should realise it and win lose with m/m.. if one cant tp when ahead, they are in the wrong business. fundamentals and or techs are like assholes, we all have one, nobody is always right..and if you are, you prove it..
very true
i ended up a scalper by choice
all the info and indicators can leave you with no brain of your own
trade what you see not what you want to see
Trade What You See Not What You Want To See
  • #885,589
  • Mar 24, 2014 2:12pm Mar 24, 2014 2:12pm
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} trading is about trading. its not about being right or wrong. its being nimble enough to know the market is right even if wrong. opinions in trading are worth as much as a stock tip, some good most bad. your or my definition of market psychology does not mean anything. your either right or wrong, and one should realise it and win lose with m/m.. if one cant tp when ahead, they are in the wrong business. fundamentals and or techs are like assholes, we all have one, nobody is always right..and if you are, you prove it..
well I don't think we have the same understanding or attitude towards the markets
If you want to ignore market moves and not think about them, fine you can ignore it all you want and just assume what we saw today can happen anytime, maybe in five minutes we will move 100 pips down out of nothing, perfectly normal right?
You will end with more information if you try to understand what is happening and how it happen.

btw I am very careful to what I call manipulaton, this what we saw today had all the signs of it. Its not anything that I can't find explanation for I instantly call it manipulation.
  • #885,590
  • Mar 24, 2014 2:12pm Mar 24, 2014 2:12pm
As long as 4h above 3830 bulls in control, Under 3805 bears in control
This how i see it
  • #885,591
  • Mar 24, 2014 2:13pm Mar 24, 2014 2:13pm
Quoting Prochartist
{quote} let's start a fast evaluation by answering those simple questions 1- in total and along all your trading years, did you took from the market money or you gave money for the market more then what you did earn? 2- when you talk about forex you feel even you make your self lost? 3- do you feel there is cameras behind your head when you enter a trade someone go against you? 4- when u lose big you just sleep and you don't care what will happen instead of managing your lost with hedging and other? 5- do u see your self after 10 years from now...

1. i gave to market..
2. i felt i lost but not giveup yet and will never..
3.. no i dont feel.
4..i do hedging and planing to save myself..
5.. not billionair but millionair

whats the result
  • #885,592
  • Mar 24, 2014 2:14pm Mar 24, 2014 2:14pm
Quoting egkid
As long as 4h above 3830 bulls in control, Under 3805 bears in control This how i see it
to make it very clear... eurusd must fall under 1.34 and very soon ... just they want to stop the biggest number possible of open trades before the fall
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  • #885,593
  • Mar 24, 2014 2:15pm Mar 24, 2014 2:15pm
Anyway the market moves before the news. News comes after in an attempt to 'explain'. The major pieces of news will cause spikes but in the context of trends/patterns that have already started forming, or where the previous move has completed as the market positions itself for it's next move.
It'll be alright on the night
  • #885,594
  • Mar 24, 2014 2:17pm Mar 24, 2014 2:17pm
Quoting sami4240
{quote} 1. i gave to market.. 2. i felt i lost but not giveup yet and will never.. 3.. no i dont feel. 4..i do hedging and planing to save myself.. 5.. not billionair but millionair whats the result
Sami ... i have good news for you
100% honesty is the only way for success in life + staying humble next to the market ... millions are easy to achieve ... just keep positive thinking all the way and trade trade trade
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  • #885,595
  • Mar 24, 2014 2:17pm Mar 24, 2014 2:17pm
Quoting Prochartist
{quote} to make it very clear... eurusd must fall under 1.34 and very soon ... just they want to stop the biggest number possible of open trades before the fall
its Flat on 3837 since last 1 hour.. where you see it to be end at usa closing time ?
  • #885,596
  • Mar 24, 2014 2:19pm Mar 24, 2014 2:19pm
Quoting phiya
{quote} well I don't think we have the same understanding or attitude towards the markets If you want to ignore market moves and not think about them, fine you can ignore it all you want and just assume what we saw today can happen anytime, maybe in five minutes we will move 100 pips down out of nothing, perfectly normal right? You will end with more information if you try to understand what is happening and how it happen. btw I am very careful to what I call manipulaton, this what we saw today had all the signs of it. Its not anything that I can't...
just because i dont understand something, does not make it manipulation. if one has a small grasp of trading they can just look back and see a 50% retrace is the most common retrace. it has nothing to do with manipulation, we sat there since thursday.. and before we got there some mentioned 3757 as a support area... trying to connect manipulation dots after the fact is just sour grapes
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #885,597
  • Mar 24, 2014 2:19pm Mar 24, 2014 2:19pm
Quoting Prochartist
{quote} Sami ... i have good news for you 100% honesty is the only way for success in life + staying humble next to the market ... millions are easy to achieve ... just keep positive thinking all the way and trade trade trade
wow.. trade trade trade.. this habbit make me lost my account last time.. lol.

looking for a senior to be guided in this sea of forex.. lol
  • #885,598
  • Mar 24, 2014 2:22pm Mar 24, 2014 2:22pm
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} just because i dont understand something, does not make it manipulation. if one has a small grasp of trading they can just look back and see a 50% retrace is the most common retrace. it has nothing to do with manipulation, we sat there since thursday.. and before we got there some mentioned 3757 as a support area... trying to connect manipulation dots after the fact is just sour grapes
Na Gatorinla your spot on. Mr Market is always right. Trying to impose one's own view on the market is a sure way to blow an account.
It'll be alright on the night
  • #885,599
  • Mar 24, 2014 2:23pm Mar 24, 2014 2:23pm
Quoting sami4240
{quote} wow.. trade trade trade.. this habbit make me lost my account last time.. lol. looking for a senior to be guided in this sea of forex.. lol
hahaha ... you are very lucky tonight cos i m in a good mood to teach for free
eurusd story update 1.2020 and where all was saying 1.18 and here we are now 1.38
now all are saying 1.40 or 1.41 and here we are market did fall from 1.396 ... do you notice some similarity ?
now most traders make lost grow instead of making profits grow ... yet in the same way how you lost your account you could double your account it's just about decision... each human have a special personality and all u need to do is find your trading personality and translate it as a strategy and after you will never lose again do that make sense
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  • #885,600
  • Mar 24, 2014 2:26pm Mar 24, 2014 2:26pm
This abrupt move up happened 4 times in a month, and last three occasions reversal was there and trader were arguing that this is London close!!!!!
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