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  • #880,761
  • Mar 4, 2014 4:53am Mar 4, 2014 4:53am
Quoting Beli
If Russia turn this OFF,all German industry going OFF {image}

aW SNAP is that red thing an arrow or a MISSILE??
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  • #880,762
  • Mar 4, 2014 4:53am Mar 4, 2014 4:53am
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} who said anything about intervene? puttin already shot himself in the foot.. wake up, look what happened to the Russian markets. that's w/o the u.s. doing a thing. congress is out with bad whether. the Russian markets were already fragile with foreign money distrusting them. this new move is not going to make them more trust worthy. the cost for puttin is more then can even be grasped yet. this situation can take years if ever to recover from.

Easernt Ukraine is very rich and whole that part of country going to Russia if something happens..
Nazis from west Uk dont want to have anything with Rusia,if they depart Uk,east going to Ru
btw do you know how big are russian gold reserves...they can crash every market on this planet
  • #880,763
  • Mar 4, 2014 4:54am Mar 4, 2014 4:54am
Quoting Beli
If Russia turn this OFF,all German industry going OFF {image}
Well, then you will see Eurozone inflation surge due to rising energy costs. Cost push inflation, Draghi gets his 2%, markets are happy but not quite for European consumers though...
  • #880,764
  • Mar 4, 2014 4:56am Mar 4, 2014 4:56am
Quoting Beli
{quote} Easernt Ukraine is very rich and whole that part of country going to Russia if something happens.. Nazis from west Uk dont want to have anything with Rusia,if they depart Uk,east going to Ru btw do you know how big are russian gold reserves...they can crash every market on this planet
LOL have you listened what VP said ? I doubt.
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  • #880,765
  • Mar 4, 2014 4:59am Mar 4, 2014 4:59am
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} you guys are funny.. they cut it off and they lose money.. they cut it off and others cut off the food supply to them
On top of all that the politicians don't want to live in bunkers for the rest of their lives. If they could screw the people and live comfortable they would go to war. But a nuclear conflict would bother them too much so we are safe for now.
So, you think you have rights? LOL
  • #880,766
  • Mar 4, 2014 4:59am Mar 4, 2014 4:59am
Quoting Beli
If Russia turn this OFF,all German industry going OFF {image}
False...circa 30% gas coming from Russia. They can buy from others as well, only it will be more expensive. Actually what Attila say is true..Russia needs the west, because their (il)legal money is (washed) invested here in Europe.
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  • #880,767
  • Mar 4, 2014 5:03am Mar 4, 2014 5:03am
Quoting Beli
{quote} Easernt Ukraine is very rich and whole that part of country going to Russia if something happens.. Nazis from west Uk dont want to have anything with Rusia,if they depart Uk,east going to Ru btw do you know how big are russian gold reserves...they can crash every market on this planet
sounds like the bait and switch argument. when things dont go your way. you change the argument. my kids tried that too. try eating some gold or drinking oil.. 30 ys ago they were mostly excluded from markets. and if they choose to do it again, it will be no big deal..
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #880,768
  • Mar 4, 2014 5:04am Mar 4, 2014 5:04am
Quoting maximinus
{quote} LOL have you listened what VP said ? I doubt.

Trust me...I did
In Russian constitution is to protect all russian citizens in the world...
  • #880,769
  • Mar 4, 2014 5:07am Mar 4, 2014 5:07am
Quoting Beli
{quote} Trust me...I did In Russian constitution is to protect all russian citizens in the world...
Yes you are right, and that's what he said. He reserves himself the right to intervene, even in west Uk, if russians civilians are wounded. But he clearly emphasized that he doesn't want annex any UK territories to russia, not even Crimea. Partition is not on VP's agenda. I let you guess why ? That was my point.
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  • #880,770
  • Mar 4, 2014 5:08am Mar 4, 2014 5:08am
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} you guys are funny.. they cut it off and they lose money.. they cut it off and others cut off the food supply to them
gator trade man dont polute this tread with nonsense , what happened 2008 & now is the same begging Russians to stop , seeking Russians aggriment, aproval call it whatever you like it that is the fact. What food fruits & nuts ? be serious
  • #880,771
  • Mar 4, 2014 5:10am Mar 4, 2014 5:10am
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} you guys are funny.. they cut it off and they lose money.. they cut it off and others cut off the food supply to them
Russian food supply is self-sufficient.
Europe energy supply is not self-sufficient.
Who has more to lose? Isnt it obvious?
  • #880,772
  • Mar 4, 2014 5:14am Mar 4, 2014 5:14am
Quoting maximinus
{quote} Yes you are right, and that's what he said. He reserves himself to intervene, even in west Uk, if russians civilians are wounded. But he clearly emphasized that he doesn't want annex any UK territories to russia, not even Crimea. Partition is not on VP's agenda. I let you guess why ? That was my point.

I didn't said that,parts of Uk will try to depart from UK by themself...
Putin speech was very hawkish,we dont want war...YET"
i just said..Russia is now very powerfull for Eu to any from Eu can kick it like it was case with Yeltsin.
  • #880,773
  • Mar 4, 2014 5:16am Mar 4, 2014 5:16am
Quoting vanyxster
{quote} gator trade man dont polute this tread with nonsense , what happened 2008 & now is the same begging Russians to stop , seeking Russians aggriment, aproval call it whatever you like it that is the fact. What food fruits & nuts ? be serious
if u dont like it. u can put me on ignore.
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #880,774
  • Mar 4, 2014 5:17am Mar 4, 2014 5:17am
Quoting Beli
{quote} I didn't said that,parts of Uk will try to depart from UK by themself... Putin speech was very hawkish,we dont want war...YET" i just said..Russia is now very powerfull for Eu to any from Eu can kick it like it was case with Yeltsin.
Quoting Beli
{quote} Easernt Ukraine is very rich and whole that part of country going to Russia if something happens..
So, I misread ?
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  • #880,775
  • Mar 4, 2014 5:18am Mar 4, 2014 5:18am
Definitely agree with Gatorinla ,...

There will be diplomatic sanctions ,.... not sanctions of economical faracter .
Many green pips guys
  • #880,776
  • Mar 4, 2014 5:18am Mar 4, 2014 5:18am
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} what bluff? what did america say they were going to do and haven't?
The bluff of militarism and interventionism. Amerika can't cut it anymore and the world knows.

Some examples from Maudlin............

 

  1. President Obama is now seen backing off a commitment to US allies for the second time in eight months. They remember his U-turn last August on US military intervention for the removal of Syrian President Bashar Assad for using chemical weapons. They also see Washington shying off from Russia's clear and present use of military force and therefore concluding that Washington is not a reliable partner for safeguarding their national security.
  2. The Middle East governments and groups which opted to cooperate recently with Vladimir Putin – Damascus, Tehran, Hizballah and Egypt – are ending up on the strong side of the regional equation. Others such as Turkey and Qatar are squirming.
  3. American weakness on the global front has strengthened the Iranian-Syrian bloc and its ties with Hizballah. Assad is going nowhere.
  4. Putin standing behind Iran is a serious obstacle to a negotiated and acceptable comprehensive agreement with Iran, just as the international EU- and US-led bid for a political resolution of the Syrian conflict foundered last month, and now is unlikely to ever be revisited.

  • #880,777
  • Mar 4, 2014 5:19am Mar 4, 2014 5:19am
Russia is the largest exporter of oil to europe. do i need to add anything more.. so russia is imp for eu not viceversa. russia can get its food reserves from china and australia
  • #880,778
  • Mar 4, 2014 5:20am Mar 4, 2014 5:20am
Quoting maximinus
{quote} {quote} So, I misread ?

No...but where do you see Putin's words....I talking about people in eastern Uk???
  • #880,779
  • Mar 4, 2014 5:22am Mar 4, 2014 5:22am
load of bullshit happening since morning. first this putin news which was read wrongly by the markets and is still read. then the euro climbs to 72 on no news
  • #880,780
  • Mar 4, 2014 5:23am Mar 4, 2014 5:23am
Quoting Beli
{quote} No...but where do you see Putin's words....I talking about people in eastern Uk???
How can people in eastern UK can partition and get independence if VP says no. Ah of course, the famous "We the people of western Ukrain… bla bla bla".

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