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  • #541
  • Feb 22, 2014 11:07pm Feb 22, 2014 11:07pm
Quoting bfis108137
{quote} I think it will always save the files to the users directory the first time you run it. After you run it using portable mode you can (in theory)delete that folder.
ty this works, thankfully. I couldn't get portable to work yesterday (was missing a space before entering the command). This only works for newly installed MT4 not previous updated applications but I can live with that as I like to keep my platforms fresh (stops them from becoming buggy).

1 down only another dozen to solve.

Found this too on another site in protest about the update "

  1. Updates deletes your set files, set files are configuration files you can apply to charts with indicator and expert settings."

http://4xtrader.net/mt4-build-600-wh...not-update-it/ (I found this on google feel free to Del. link if if breaks forum rules)

Fking bastards new that it would do this but didn't warn us or fkin tell us to backup before update. One of my brokers updated the terminal without so much as a by-your-leave making it impossible to back up even if I knew it would happen. I feel hijacked by this bs, this is wrong. There were hours of testing in those .set(s) that was a working progress, one step forward from the previous months results and comparisons from similar market conditions (including indi's settings) in history... It's just wrong they can delete a folder designed to record my own data on my personal computer without my knowledge.

As the lights go by so too do the shadows move
  • #542
  • Feb 23, 2014 12:40am Feb 23, 2014 12:40am
Quoting 78020f
Expert Advisors that are coloured grey are no longer working.
Why are the Expert Advisors colored grey no longer working?? I had a EA that I really liked that was working before the new MT4 Build 600 was released, but now it is colored grey and it not working! WHY?!! What can I do? Can I email the big boss of MT4 to complain? (whoever that may be.)

Do they plan on fixing the problem so we can use the EA's we previously had (the ones that are now colored grey)?
"Trading is a mental sport." - Ziad Masri
  • #543
  • Feb 23, 2014 12:45am Feb 23, 2014 12:45am
  •  FerruFx
  • Joined May 2007 | Status: MT4/MT5 EAs/Indicators/Alerts coder | 6,542 Posts | Online Now
Quoting Quickdraw
{quote} Why are the Expert Advisors colored grey no longer working?? I had a EA that I really liked that was working before the new MT4 Build 600 was released, but now it is colored grey and it not working! WHY?!! What can I do? Can I email the big boss of MT4 to complain? (whoever that may be.) Do they plan on fixing the problem so we can use the EA's we previously had (the ones that are now colored grey)?
Don't expect Metaquotes to fix this !!!

The problem is when you upgraded your platform with the old .mq4 file (source code) in the folder. In some cases, the code isn't fully compatible due to new MQ language ... so when the new build tried to compile the old mq4, it failed.

ONLY .ex4 files from the old MT4 folders must be in the new build.
MT4/MT5 EAs/Indicators/Alerts coder
  • #544
  • Feb 23, 2014 12:54am Feb 23, 2014 12:54am
FerruFX, thank you for explaining. Now I have a better understanding of the situation. The EA that I have is one I purchased about 5 years ago from a company called CompassFX. That EA is an Average Daily Range calculator. Maybe I can email CompassFX to see if they have adjusted their ADR calculator to fit the new MT4. If I am lucky then maybe they will replace my old ADR calculator with one that fits the new MT4.
"Trading is a mental sport." - Ziad Masri
  • #545
  • Feb 23, 2014 1:06am Feb 23, 2014 1:06am
  •  FerruFx
  • Joined May 2007 | Status: MT4/MT5 EAs/Indicators/Alerts coder | 6,542 Posts | Online Now
Quoting Quickdraw
FerruFX, thank you for explaining. Now I have a better understanding of the situation. The EA that I have is one I purchased about 5 years ago from a company called CompassFX. That EA is an Average Daily Range calculator. Maybe I can email CompassFX to see if they have adjusted their ADR calculator to fit the new MT4. If I am lucky then maybe they will replace my old ADR calculator with one that fits the new MT4.
That would be the idea in your case ...
MT4/MT5 EAs/Indicators/Alerts coder
  • #546
  • Feb 23, 2014 11:10am Feb 23, 2014 11:10am
Hi,
anyone having the same problems with the new version of MT4 600 trading with 3 monitors?
Since I have downloaded the new version Build 600 the AMD-Graphic-Card(AMD Control-Center ) don't find 1 of my 3 monitors anymore.
Anyone have some ideas?
Thanks for any info.
Greeds Zack
  • #547
  • Feb 24, 2014 10:04am Feb 24, 2014 10:04am
Quoting FerruFx
{quote} Don't expect Metaquotes to fix this !!! The problem is when you upgraded your platform with the old .mq4 file (source code) in the folder. In some cases, the code isn't fully compatible due to new MQ language ... so when the new build tried to compile the old mq4, it failed. ONLY .ex4 files from the old MT4 folders must be in the new build.
excuse for ignorance...
i have only.ex4 file on one particular indicator and no access to mq4 file of it...which i understand as that might be needed to recompile the file
would the ex4 only files work after upgrading?
when you've upgraded can i then assume that the indicator works if i can still see it on the screen?

thanks,

G
Wooooohooooo or Boooooohooooo
  • #548
  • Feb 24, 2014 10:08am Feb 24, 2014 10:08am
  •  FerruFx
  • Joined May 2007 | Status: MT4/MT5 EAs/Indicators/Alerts coder | 6,542 Posts | Online Now
Quoting gnomoneey
{quote} excuse for ignorance... i have only.ex4 file on one particular indicator and no access to mq4 file of it...which i understand as that might be needed to recompile the file would the ex4 only files work after upgrading? when you've upgraded can i then assume that the indicator works if i can still see it on the screen? thanks, G
Metaquotes claims that old .ex4 will work in the new builds like in the old 509.

In any case, the mq4 file isn't needed in order to use the tool in the platform.
MT4/MT5 EAs/Indicators/Alerts coder
  • #549
  • Feb 24, 2014 10:10am Feb 24, 2014 10:10am
Quoting FerruFx
{quote} Metaquotes claims that old .ex4 will work in the new builds like in the old 509. In any case, the mq4 file isn't needed in order to use the tool in the platform.
thanks FerruFx....

so i can assume it is working ok as it is running on 610 build?
Wooooohooooo or Boooooohooooo
  • #550
  • Feb 24, 2014 11:57am Feb 24, 2014 11:57am
Hi,

I found new mt4 600 is quite good.

All mt4 folds from different brokers come into one place.

New compiler seem can find more error when re-compile my EAs, indicators. I re-compile all my EA, indicator and correct a lot of error.

New code execution seem more fast.

If decompile is banned, then, new mt4 600 would be welcomed, and good for copy right protection.
  • #551
  • Edited 12:32am Feb 25, 2014 12:08am | Edited 12:32am
Quoting FerruFx
{quote} Metaquotes claims that old .ex4 will work in the new builds like in the old 509. In any case, the mq4 file isn't needed in order to use the tool in the platform.
Do you believe their promised ?
Please, take a look in their site's was launched : MetaQuotes Launching MetaTrader 4 App Marketplace

Yesterday, I found the issue... they are making right now is to disable Windows API.
Next time, they will don't give the TRUE Signal in their Platform ?


MetaQuotes Releases Build 600: Marketplaces, MT5 and Regulation in the Balance
Posted on February 4, 2014 by Ron Finberg in Brokers,New Product,Software Developers

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Regulatory Limits

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As MetaTrader 4 and 5 become portals for purchasing third-party EAs and accessing trading signals, one item that may limit MetaQuotes’ goal of being a global retail Forex trading toll collector, as well as the end to end platform choice of all brokers is regulation. Among regulatory trends, there has been the focus of financial authorities on autotrading and third-party apps. Questions such as whether the developer of autotrading strategies or social trading leaders needs to be licensed as a money manager are currently being debated around the world. In addition, during the 2013 Forex Magnates London Summit, brokers that are regulated in the US related to us that marketing of third-party products was in that area of discussion with the NFA. For example, the question was raised as whether including the mention of a popular third-party app in marketing literature was considered a recommendation of the product?

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As such in MetaTrader’s case, some jurisdictions may decide that providing access to trading signals and EAs within the platform itself may require brokers to individually review each offering before making it available to customers. On this, a representative from MetaQuotes explained to Forex Magnates last year that with their trading signal product, they do offer brokers control to filter what signals are available for purchase by their clients. Therefore, it would be expected that such a filtering feature will also exist in the marketplace. However, the screening of products does limit the overall goal that MetaQuotes aims to achieve with the marketplace and the speed at which users rotate to MT5.

http://forexmagnates.com/metaquotes-...n-the-balance/
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  • #552
  • Feb 25, 2014 12:44am Feb 25, 2014 12:44am
  •  FerruFx
  • Joined May 2007 | Status: MT4/MT5 EAs/Indicators/Alerts coder | 6,542 Posts | Online Now
Quoting Tsar
{quote} Do you believe their promised ?
Absolutely not
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  • #553
  • Feb 25, 2014 12:56am Feb 25, 2014 12:56am
I discovered something yesterday that might be helpful to some people. I was in the process of reinstalling windows on a computer so I needed to transfer mt4 to another computer. I hadn't been using portable mode but since I was going to be moving back and forth, I activated portable mode per metaquotes instructions. However after I activated portable mode, my settings were all lost even on the original computer. When I ran it on the original computer not in portable mode though, the settings still worked. I went to the data folder using the shortcut in the platform under the file menu and then copied the entire data folder into the mt4 folder overwriting any duplicates. This includes the mql4 folder plus a bunch of other folders. Then I ran it using portable mode and it worked from both computers. I thought that when you run using portable mode, it will copy all of the files from the user folder but i guess not. It was a little tedious to set up (because I had to do it on 10 different mt4 installs) but now it works fine. I hope this helps someone.
  • #554
  • Feb 25, 2014 1:09am Feb 25, 2014 1:09am
Quoting FerruFx
{quote} Absolutely not

Now... I can not saying the right words for their behaviour and mission
Always looking the GREAT, never left GOOD Point...
  • #555
  • Feb 25, 2014 1:09am Feb 25, 2014 1:09am
Quoting Tsar
{quote} Do you believe their promised ?
I don't trust them but I can say from my own personal experience that all my eas continued to work from the ex4s even those that would not compile. The problem is going to be the old mq4 files posted all over the internet that have no ex4 that people want to use for the first time. You will either have to compile them using the old compiler or you will have to fix the code. In theory the old compiler will work forever as long as you use it without opening version 509 and if I am not mistaken hanover even stated that there is a way to make it so it will copy to the correct folder when compiling.
  • #556
  • Feb 25, 2014 1:23am Feb 25, 2014 1:23am
Quoting bfis108137
I can say from my own personal experience that all my eas continued to work from the ex4s even those that would not compile.
That's reassuring, as I have several old EAs (.ex4s) that I haven't attempted to run in b600+ yet.
Quoting bfis108137
......hanover even stated that there is a way to make it so it will copy to the correct folder when compiling.
Explained here, just in case it's helpful to anybody. Alternatively, Euclid explains how it's possible to use symbolic links here.
  • #557
  • Edited 1:43am Feb 25, 2014 1:29am | Edited 1:43am
Quoting bfis108137
{quote} I don't trust them but I can say from my own personal experience that all my eas continued to work from the ex4s even those that would not compile. The problem is going to be the old mq4 files posted all over the internet that have no ex4 that people want to use for the first time. You will either have to compile them using the old compiler or you will have to fix the code. In theory the old compiler will work forever as long as you use it without opening version 509 and if I am not mistaken hanover even stated that there is a way to make...

That's right... but just for temporary solution.

What happens after their process disable Windows API finish ?
And after they closed the access to MT4 Build 509 ??

The Main is the SIGNALS of Market Place !
Especially for Traders who's work with manual (not EA) & moreover used Price Action [PA] trading style's
Always looking the GREAT, never left GOOD Point...
  • #558
  • Feb 25, 2014 1:45am Feb 25, 2014 1:45am
Quoting Tsar
{quote} That's right... but just for temporary solution. What happens after their process disable Windows API finish ? And after they closed the access to MT4 Build 509 ??
I haven't seen them say they are planning to disable WINAPI. In effect this would mean that dlls would no longer be an option. I don't think this is their plan but humor me and show me where they said this or even hinted at it. Many coders use dlls as a stronger form of defense against decompilation and I can't imagine that they would want to take this away. On the other hand, dlls do offer the ability to do things you wouldn't want. For example I could write a dll that will send me your account balance every day and you probably wouldn't notice since mt4 already accesses the internet. I have heard there have been some problems with dlls but none that couldn't be fixed.

As far as I can tell, the CODE changes were more about being with the times. OOP is considered the standard and many talented coders preferred coding in other platforms that supported that. Even if no one left for the language, it to me was still embarrassing to them that they were basically stuck in 1980's. Where they screwed up was the rollout which to me they have done multiple times in the past.
  • #559
  • Edited 2:24am Feb 25, 2014 1:54am | Edited 2:24am
Quoting bfis108137
{quote} I haven't seen them say they are planning to disable WINAPI. In effect this would mean that dlls would no longer be an option. I don't think this is their plan but humor me and show me where they said this or even hinted at it. Many coders use dlls as a stronger form of defense against decompilation and I can't imagine that they would want to take this away. On the other hand, dlls do offer the ability to do things you wouldn't want. For example I could write a dll that will send me your account balance every day and you probably wouldn't...
I hope so....
But they probably will do it, if not... 'MetaTrader 4 App Marketplace' will NOT Success Sale (like MT5 Platform)
Always looking the GREAT, never left GOOD Point...
  • #560
  • Edited 2:32am Feb 25, 2014 2:07am | Edited 2:32am
Quoting FerruFx
{quote} Don't expect Metaquotes to fix this !!! The problem is when you upgraded your platform with the old .mq4 file (source code) in the folder. In some cases, the code isn't fully compatible due to new MQ language ... so when the new build tried to compile the old mq4, it failed. ONLY .ex4 files from the old MT4 folders must be in the new build.
Hi FerruFx,

Would you like give a little explaint about MT5 plaform based C++ Language, please.
What's defferent with cTrader platform & ProTrader platform based C# Language.

I mean about C++ Laguage with C# Laguage.

We all need to know. Thank's before...
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