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  • #501
  • Feb 19, 2014 10:18pm Feb 19, 2014 10:18pm
Quoting FerruFx
{quote} In any case, they will have to provide a definitive stable version before stop supporting the 509 ... I don't see for now how they can achieve this for the summer (no matter the zone they are !!!) as each new build since 2 weeks fix some and add some bugs ...
Should be... if they don't want their Customers switch to Other platforms. The delayed then the impact gets BIGGER !

We're as Traders can't wait too long... just follow the Updates only.
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  • #502
  • Feb 19, 2014 10:24pm Feb 19, 2014 10:24pm
Quoting Tsar
{quote} Should be... if they don't want their Customers switch to Other platforms.
I would say: if they don't want their customers to switch to other platforms, then keep 509 alive ...
MT4/MT5 EAs/Indicators/Alerts coder
  • #503
  • Feb 19, 2014 10:28pm Feb 19, 2014 10:28pm
Quoting FerruFx
{quote} I would say: if they don't want their customers to switch to other platforms, then keep 509 alive ...
I agree - I am only trading live on 509 for now. I don't have any systems running on a Build 600 series and I do not have any plans to change over anytime soon.
  • #504
  • Feb 19, 2014 10:35pm Feb 19, 2014 10:35pm
Quoting Slim Buffett
{quote} Unless you've been trading with a REALLY shitty broker, please explain why it's so much better.... if you can ??
Isn't there a Search Engine & another Forums in the NET ???

I've got a lot INFO about their experienced. And I've got experienced myself with DEMO from their Companies Site's.
And this week... I'm looking for REAL Broker and try it at DEMO first (again) before use for TRADE.

There are Stages & Strategies for it...
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  • #505
  • Feb 19, 2014 10:41pm Feb 19, 2014 10:41pm
Quoting COGnizant
{quote} News just in!!! ProTrader pays TSAR's strip club bill every Friday night!

I wait for ...

Btw they don't know where's a Check and Voucher sent to me. Because I'm INVISIBLE in the Net
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  • #506
  • Feb 19, 2014 10:56pm Feb 19, 2014 10:56pm
Quoting Tsar
{quote} I've still used MT4 Build 509 and another got MT Build 604 with Defferent Brroker. And used DEMO for monitor the Upgrade MT4 ; the Last Updates is MT4 Build 610 MT4 Build 610 more Badly than MT Build 604 b'cause the Signal & Historial not GOOD. So... my advice WAIT the Updates after MT4 Build 610 with search the Information again first...
Ok good to know. Thanks for the info. That's what I am doing already. Waiting for a more stable build until I jump ship.
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  • #507
  • Feb 19, 2014 10:57pm Feb 19, 2014 10:57pm
Quoting Tsar
{quote} Isn't there a Search Engine & another Forums in the NET ???
I'm really not sure what that means. ?

[quote=Tsar;7293235]{quote}I've got a lot INFO about their experinced. And I've experienced myself with DEMO from their Companies Site's. And this week... [quote=Tsar;7293235]{quote}

You're a "high impact" trader so why would demo mean anything to YOU.

Quoting Tsar
{quote}I'm looking for REAL Broker and try it at DEMO first (again) before use for TRADE. There are Stages & Strategies for it...
I've had no problems with the "real" brokers that I've had for the last several years (once they got their shit together).

....and what I'm really wondering is ???? (I suppose I have a lack of understanding)
well.... I'll let that part go and just wish you the very best

Happy trading

S0B
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  • #508
  • Feb 19, 2014 10:58pm Feb 19, 2014 10:58pm
Quoting FerruFx
{quote} I would say: if they don't want their customers to switch to other platforms, then keep 509 alive ...
There is no chance in the long term but maybe for a few months they will leave it. There are a few reasons.

1.)There will always be updates so that would mean they would have to maintain 2 versions on 2 separate tracts.

2.)They believe and they are right that the coding system of build 509 is old and from the 1970's. The are embarrassed to be quite honest.

I would just leave it at this. I see lot's of people have very strong opinions about switching to other platforms. As a coder, I have already tried the other platforms and I can say the reasons that I would switch (and have tried in the past) would be because of the things that were missing until build 600+.

The problem in my eyes isn't really build 600, but they way they rolled it out essentially without any beta period. With that being said, we are here. I am pleased with build 600 overall. There is a slight learning curve such as folder locations and getting your ex4 files. For those that are debating on whether to update or not, I recommend (notice that I recommend and not order you to do this or that like some others) that you make a copy of your build 509 and update one and have the other not update. Furthermore I think you should forever save a copy of build 509 because in the future if you have a mq4 and you don't have the ex4, you will have to compile it and you won't have any way other than fixing the code. This is something metaquotes never considered. What about the tens of thousands of indicators that don't have an ex4? After everyone updates those indicators will be useless unless you save a copy of 509 to compile. I bet you will see websites popping up that will provide this service.
  • #509
  • Feb 19, 2014 11:05pm Feb 19, 2014 11:05pm
Quoting FerruFx
{quote} I would say: if they don't want their customers to switch to other platforms, then keep 509 alive ...
Indeed our desire as a Trader and Coder. But their intention is different...

In this World nothing is Impossible ! These about MARKET want.
Many large Companies (although Dominant) but finally fell when doesn't respond to desire of the Market

Remember that APPLE OS will be defeated by Microsoft. And Microsoft almost derailed by LINUX.
Another example is NOKIA. And APPLE Communication's almost derailed if didn't got innovation. Now SAMSUNG is getting to be...
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  • #510
  • Feb 19, 2014 11:10pm Feb 19, 2014 11:10pm
Quoting Slim Buffett
{quote} OK.... let's sort this out...... 1. Forexia asks a question... "Is there any difference in terms of the programming? How's it that MT4 indicators wouldn't necessarily work in MT5?" I reply by posting a link to the peeps that make MetaTrader. 2. I get put on iggy by "Forexia" apparently for trying to post a useful link. 3. Now, peeps are thanking "Forexia" because he "read a useful article" That is one of the most hilarious FF "power plays" I've seen yet {image}
Ok sorry for the misunderstanding but I was really looking for people who have had experience using both MT4 AND MT5 to comment on the difference in terms of the programming between MT4 and MT5 from their own experience and observation. I was already aware of those "official" articles about their difference but was really looking for people's personal insight.

But thank you for trying to be helpful. You are off my "Ignore" list.
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  • #511
  • Feb 19, 2014 11:24pm Feb 19, 2014 11:24pm
Quoting bfis108137
{quote} There is no chance in the long term but maybe for a few months they will leave it. There are a few reasons. 1.)There will always be updates so that would mean they would have to maintain 2 versions on 2 separate tracts. 2.)They believe and they are right that the coding system of build 509 is old and from the 1970's. The are embarrassed to be quite honest. I would just leave it at this. I see lot's of people have very strong opinions about switching to other platforms. As a coder, I have already tried the other platforms and I can say the...
Well MQ supposedly did have a beta period but with any rollouts, there are always problems and unforseen issues. Plus I don't know whether this is just me or you guys notice it too but companies seem to cut the beta period shorter and shorter and many times with hardly any adequate testing done so you always have tons of issues with rollout depending on how you use it. Apparently it's traders who trade with 3rd-party EA's who were having the toughest time with the upgrade because there was a lot of incompatibility issues with the new build 600 and the programmers couldn't work fast enough to recode them to fix them. The only thing I can say is they really shouldn't have rolled out this new build at all. Build 509 was working fine, it's stable, it's popular and working. "Don't fix something if it ain't broken" especially for no good reason - I personally still don't like the reason that MQ offered as the reason for this pushed upgrade.

Thanks for your input.
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  • #512
  • Feb 19, 2014 11:25pm Feb 19, 2014 11:25pm
Quoting hanover
{quote} From post #304: "Since this upgrade EAs, Indicators, Scripts and Library files are now to be saved in different locations. You can access this folder from your MT4 client terminal by clicking on File > Open Data Folder. All indicators should be saved in the folder titled: MQL4 > Indicators." Note: copy ONLY the zigzag.ex4 file (NOT the mq4 file) from .....(your MT4 build 509)/experts/indicators to the folder described above.
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  • #513
  • Feb 20, 2014 2:26am Feb 20, 2014 2:26am
Quoting Forexia
{quote} I see. That would be really useful when you are doing backtesting. Is there any difference in terms of the programming? How's it that MT4 indicators wouldn't necessarily work in MT5? Would you know? Thanks
Sorry I am yet to take on programming, so I know next to nothing about that.
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  • #514
  • Feb 20, 2014 3:04am Feb 20, 2014 3:04am
Quoting Intrepidpips
{quote} Sorry I am yet to take on programming, so I know next to nothing about that.
I don't think they will work because per metaquotes they have brought mt4 as close as possible to mt5. That would imply that it's not the same.
  • #515
  • Edited 4:21am Feb 20, 2014 4:03am | Edited 4:21am
Quoting gnomoneey
{quote} quick and maybe been answered already but here goes.... I have an indicator that is only *.ex4 not an *.mq4......is this going to cause my ex4 indicator to not execute with 6xx build? btw I still haven't upgraded my version from 509 to 6xx.... thanks, G
If you're still at 509 on your live account - praise yourself lucky.

If you're running EAs on that account, I would strongly recommend NOT to upgrade.
Even in the current 610 are so many bugs even in the "improved" language which pose an additional operational risk to your trading.

Wait until

a) 509 does not connect any longer to your sever
b) B6XX, B7XX ... fixes most of the issues.

In every case: Run each and any upgrade on your demo account first and watch this demo account for issues for at least two weeks!
Plan your live account deployment in advance during that demo testing time. Make notes of each and every quirk which showed up there and how you solved it.

Your live account is no playstation game. Keep that in mind.
  • #516
  • Feb 20, 2014 4:09am Feb 20, 2014 4:09am
Quoting bfis108137
{quote} I don't think they will work because per metaquotes they have brought mt4 as close as possible to mt5. That would imply that it's not the same.
And the Last... END of Story MT4 Platform !
Welcome to MT5 Platform


MetaQuotes Really Wants You to Upgrade MetaTrader 4
Posted on February 14, 2014 by Ron Finberg in Brokers,IBs and Affiliates,Software Developers


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  • #517
  • Feb 20, 2014 4:10am Feb 20, 2014 4:10am
Quoting FerruFx
{quote} In any case, they will have to provide a definitive stable version before stop supporting the 509 ... I don't see for now how they can achieve this for the summer (no matter the zone they are !!!) as each new build since 2 weeks fix some and add some bugs ...
I would not be so sure.

Knowing their historical speed of fixing bugs and having seen the arrogance against their clients I would not hold my breath for it.

They surely want to build up pressure to get rid of two supported platforms and to destroy exactly that community which made MQ grow in the first place.

Oracle, the database vendor, did exactly the same 20 years ago. They had a strong community in the 90's - but now 50% of Oracle's revenues are made from license audits. Ever witnessed an Oracle license audit? Be glad when you didn't. Makes your blood boil.
  • #518
  • Feb 20, 2014 9:12am Feb 20, 2014 9:12am
Quoting Tsar
{quote} And the Last... END of Story MT4 Platform ! Welcome to MT5 Platform MetaQuotes Really Wants You to Upgrade MetaTrader 4 Posted on February 14, 2014 by Ron Finberg in Brokers,IBs and Affiliates,Software...
Yup that's the article that I read
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  • #519
  • Feb 20, 2014 9:25am Feb 20, 2014 9:25am
Hi I haven't time to read entire thread so if discussed already pls let me know.

Has anyone had any problems with the "presets" folder (broker/experts/presets) from an EA on a open chart? If I click "Load" from the EA it takes me to the "Presets" folder, however all saved presets (from previous build) are missing. I tried using the old path, not there and when I beta tested the platform I think there was a mql4 folder through the old path but with upgrade from broker it's not there. I have searched the hidden AppData (mql4) folder too and the only present one is the new folder. Have metaquotes just deleted the old Presets folder and replaced it with a new one?

These aren't crucial to my present trading but there is a lot of history and learning in those old presets that I need for future references.

If anyone has knowledge of this pls let me know.
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  • #520
  • Feb 20, 2014 10:01am Feb 20, 2014 10:01am
Quoting Matts Micro
Hi I haven't time to read entire thread so if discussed already pls let me know. Has anyone had any problems with the "presets" folder (broker/experts/presets) from an EA on a open chart? If I click "Load" from the EA it takes me to the "Presets" folder, however all saved presets (from previous build) are missing. I tried using the old path, not there and when I beta tested the platform I think there was a mql4 folder through the old path but with upgrade from broker it's not there. I have searched the hidden AppData (mql4) folder too and the only...
What build did you upgrade to?
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