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  • #21
  • Jun 17, 2006 1:48am Jun 17, 2006 1:48am
Quoting JoJoDawg
Yeah there is... its Luck!!!

...runs and hides.
omg...you totally didn't say something this ludacrous did you?

Please...read the statement carefully...a system that works 100% of the time...although I should point out that not trading will prevent you from having losses 100% of the time...so perhaps I spoke too soon.
  • #22
  • Jun 17, 2006 2:03am Jun 17, 2006 2:03am
Guys,
Trading is playing with mathmatical probabilities in real time. Remember that we are Biological computers to a great extent, but limited via our emotional self.
The big invetment houses pray on our stupidity. Just check the spikes.....who do you think "knows" that we know of the great short coming on the usd/chf like yesterday and pushes big money in the opposite direction to burn small stops.....

There are weaknesses in the system which will evaporate in time, however they still exist but not for long.
What I am saying again is :
If someone has an amazing system - please keep it to yourself, and dont try to sell it because it will get decompiled in a few hours. Even KSI defense would not help......

Computers dont have human weaknesses, and a monster trading machine is developped in many forums(Russian mainly).........Just see the forums .

For the best of us all, forum administrators , just keep the most amazing stuff / ea's to yourself and dont post the best stuff on the forum .

As for the was mongering declarations above......I think that it is for the benefit of the Human kind that such an imbalance would not ensue.....

As for an amazing Forex system that works 100% of the time ......well if someone works for a market moving organization or state that would not be very difficult wouldnt it?.......just go long ten mins before corp x pays its billion $ in taxes and has to convert $ to Euro.....Oh but wait, isnt that what the Forex Brokers do when they know the real stats in real time...........wake up guys.......
  • #23
  • Jun 17, 2006 2:24am Jun 17, 2006 2:24am
Quoting Pip-Gandalf
Guys,
Trading is playing with mathmatical probabilities in real time. Remember that we are Biological computers to a great extent, but limited via our emotional self.
The big invetment houses pray on our stupidity. Just check the spikes.....who do you think "knows" that we know of the great short coming on the usd/chf like yesterday and pushes big money in the opposite direction to burn small stops.....

There are weaknesses in the system which will evaporate in time, however they still exist but not for long.
What I am saying again is :
If someone has an amazing system - please keep it to yourself, and dont try to sell it because it will get decompiled in a few hours. Even KSI defense would not help......

Computers dont have human weaknesses, and a monster trading machine is developped in many forums(Russian mainly).........Just see the forums .

For the best of us all, forum administrators , just keep the most amazing stuff / ea's to yourself and dont post the best stuff on the forum .

As for the was mongering declarations above......I think that it is for the benefit of the Human kind that such an imbalance would not ensue.....

As for an amazing Forex system that works 100% of the time ......well if someone works for a market moving organization or state that would not be very difficult wouldnt it?.......just go long ten mins before corp x pays its billion $ in taxes and has to convert $ to Euro.....Oh but wait, isnt that what the Forex Brokers do when they know the real stats in real time...........wake up guys.......
Honestly...I'm not sure how to respond to this.

If anyone has a system that would temporarily return 100% every 3 days, they probably WOULD keep it to themselves for fear of what you're talking about exactly. However, what I take exception with is the fact they're basically demanding that everyone adhere to some set standard of information dissemination. To order the administrators to do anything, especially with controlling the content of this site is a bit presumptious of you (that you have some sort of magic knowledge of the butterfly effect that releasing this "amazing" system would have on human kind...)

Personally, if someone wants to create a temporary imbalance in the forces of nature because they presented a forex system on this forum, I don't think I'd necessarily be against that. Sure the short term consequences could bad...but first of all, I don't think what you suggest is possible (creating a holy grail system); secondly, even if it did, I don't think the results of posting it on THIS forum would result in a the type of cataclysmic event you're suggesting (sorry...this forum just ISN'T that important in the grand scheme of forex trading...sure it's a WONDERFUL resource...but seriously...if you asked everyone here sneeze in an eastern direction, I doubt we'd create a hurricane in Florida...let alone a cool breeze) and finally I think everyone has the right to release whatever information that might be useful to anyone on this forum if they so choose to accept the consequences.

I'm not saying that just any content can be posted here...it's not quite THAT democratic...but I don't think posting a useful system for the purpose of having a brain-trust here expand the possibilities of a system is necessarily a bad thing.

So...pip-G...honestly...what systems CAN we post according to your gestapo? Can we post systems that make 50% in 3 days? how about 50% in a year? Or should we ONLY post systems that net people losses? What the hell good would this forum be if we can't post any systems that make a profit...yet you want to constrain postings to some sort of arbitrary profit level. What profit level system would be OK to post here, by your standards? You have to help us out considering that you're requesting the administrators remove all systems that make 100% in 3 days? So are you telling me I can't post my system that makes 99% in 3 days? or was it 97% in 3-days...what profit level would be safe enough to disseminate without causing world war 3, my friend? please tell us.

You see the problem here? If we have to abide by rules that are really vague, then we resign ourselves to making this forum basically useless. Why the hell would we want to post a bunch of losing systems but to only state 1 of the millions of ways to lose money in forex?
  • #24
  • Jun 17, 2006 5:51am Jun 17, 2006 5:51am
Quoting mrmikal
Honestly...I'm not sure how to respond to this.

If anyone has a system that would temporarily return 100% every 3 days, they probably WOULD keep it to themselves for fear of what you're talking about exactly. However, what I take exception with is the fact they're basically demanding that everyone adhere to some set standard of information dissemination. To order the administrators to do anything, especially with controlling the content of this site is a bit presumptious of you (that you have some sort of magic knowledge of the butterfly effect that releasing this "amazing" system would have on human kind...)

Personally, if someone wants to create a temporary imbalance in the forces of nature because they presented a forex system on this forum, I don't think I'd necessarily be against that. Sure the short term consequences could bad...but first of all, I don't think what you suggest is possible (creating a holy grail system); secondly, even if it did, I don't think the results of posting it on THIS forum would result in a the type of cataclysmic event you're suggesting (sorry...this forum just ISN'T that important in the grand scheme of forex trading...sure it's a WONDERFUL resource...but seriously...if you asked everyone here sneeze in an eastern direction, I doubt we'd create a hurricane in Florida...let alone a cool breeze) and finally I think everyone has the right to release whatever information that might be useful to anyone on this forum if they so choose to accept the consequences.

I'm not saying that just any content can be posted here...it's not quite THAT democratic...but I don't think posting a useful system for the purpose of having a brain-trust here expand the possibilities of a system is necessarily a bad thing.

So...pip-G...honestly...what systems CAN we post according to your gestapo? Can we post systems that make 50% in 3 days? how about 50% in a year? Or should we ONLY post systems that net people losses? What the hell good would this forum be if we can't post any systems that make a profit...yet you want to constrain postings to some sort of arbitrary profit level. What profit level system would be OK to post here, by your standards? You have to help us out considering that you're requesting the administrators remove all systems that make 100% in 3 days? So are you telling me I can't post my system that makes 99% in 3 days? or was it 97% in 3-days...what profit level would be safe enough to disseminate without causing world war 3, my friend? please tell us.

You see the problem here? If we have to abide by rules that are really vague, then we resign ourselves to making this forum basically useless. Why the hell would we want to post a bunch of losing systems but to only state 1 of the millions of ways to lose money in forex?

This is hypocracy.....you know exactly what profit level is acceptable....Gestapo..........Shame on you for using such terms.
The big US democracy post sep 11 made rules to prevent bad outbreaks.......is that Gestapo.....If you did not get the point We are worried from the bad people that would get the 10000000% a month .......
  • #25
  • Jun 17, 2006 6:12am Jun 17, 2006 6:12am
In actuallity, if you had a system that made 100% in 3 days or any system you could say for certain would make x% a day the only thing you could do is give it away. You could make more money with it then you could ever recieve for selling it.

That is the reason that if some one is selling a system you know it is worth as much as they are selling it for

I do not think one person could come up with a system like that, but i do believe a system approaching that can be made by collaboration (which is what this board does).

And ever beyond that, most systems work because people think they do (hoodoo!) . Pivots bounce because everyone bounces there, fibbies work because everyone is using them, prices hafta come down after a 300 spike on the cci because it makes sense to everyone. So if the system isnt shared it wont work for long
  • #26
  • Jun 17, 2006 6:13am Jun 17, 2006 6:13am
This thread is approaching the surreal... It is an old Bulletin Board rule that any reference to Hitler or related ends a thread. Everyone knows that
In trading, there is no bullshit. You either make money or you don't.
  • #27
  • Jun 17, 2006 7:15am Jun 17, 2006 7:15am
PG,


Really, before I use up another moment of my time with any dialog with you, please answer my question in this post. If you cannot answer what is the point in even talking?

http://www.forexfactory.com/forexfor...78&postcount=7

Please address this.
thanks Scott
  • #28
  • Jun 17, 2006 10:25am Jun 17, 2006 10:25am
No system could ever be effective enough to cause any problems because the market is always changing.

If your looking for the holy grail, you'll never find it. The longer I trade, I think the simpler the system the better. All you need is trendlines, channels, ma's, support, resistance, common sense, and a few good indicators to survive this market.

If you find something that works, share it. The trend is your friend. You can't have a trend without a majority of traders. Therefore, the more people that make decisions like you the better. Thus, its better to share.
  • #29
  • Jun 17, 2006 10:41am Jun 17, 2006 10:41am
Quoting Pip-Gandalf

.....
liar
  • #30
  • Jun 17, 2006 10:44am Jun 17, 2006 10:44am
I wonder where we would be if someone had told the Chinese in the 8th century...

"You can't ever use that black stuff... It will be the end of mankind."

Not...

Hypothetically;
If anyone ever does publish a 100% system, it will only be another step in the "Pips Race" soon to be neutralized by a Counter Strike.
  • #31
  • Jun 17, 2006 11:19am Jun 17, 2006 11:19am
There might not be a Holy Grail, but I do believe there is Secret Sauce!!!

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0...C.MZZZZZZZ.jpg

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  • #32
  • Jun 17, 2006 1:12pm Jun 17, 2006 1:12pm
I am more likely to teach my dog to crap golden eggs than the liklihood of anyone developing a perfect system. Don't waste your time.... any of it.... worrying about stuff like that.

Worry about the true menace. Aliens are controlling our thoughts with their advanced neurotechnology. That's why I have wrapped my head in tin foil... it keeps those alien bastards out of my head.
  • #33
  • Jun 17, 2006 2:26pm Jun 17, 2006 2:26pm
Quoting Pip-Gandalf
Guys,
Trading is playing with mathmatical probabilities in real time. Remember that we are Biological computers to a great extent, but limited via our emotional self.
The big invetment houses pray on our stupidity. Just check the spikes.....who do you think "knows" that we know of the great short coming on the usd/chf like yesterday and pushes big money in the opposite direction to burn small stops.....

There are weaknesses in the system which will evaporate in time, however they still exist but not for long.
What I am saying again is :
If someone has an amazing system - please keep it to yourself, and dont try to sell it because it will get decompiled in a few hours. Even KSI defense would not help......

Computers dont have human weaknesses, and a monster trading machine is developped in many forums(Russian mainly).........Just see the forums .

For the best of us all, forum administrators , just keep the most amazing stuff / ea's to yourself and dont post the best stuff on the forum .

As for the was mongering declarations above......I think that it is for the benefit of the Human kind that such an imbalance would not ensue.....

As for an amazing Forex system that works 100% of the time ......well if someone works for a market moving organization or state that would not be very difficult wouldnt it?.......just go long ten mins before corp x pays its billion $ in taxes and has to convert $ to Euro.....Oh but wait, isnt that what the Forex Brokers do when they know the real stats in real time...........wake up guys.......

Hi Pip-Gandalf,

As you say, we all traders are affected , in the good and bad way, from emotions.
Emotions can drive us in the good direction, but sometimes fear can make us to fail.
But the point is: As pairs prices are moved from human heads, which have emotions, the only system that can work and understand the market is only then your brain and your emotions. Does an automat computer system have emotions, fear, etc ? Does a computer listed to the fed and understand which way humans emotions will react ? Unless we are talking about artificial intelligence able to develop alone, I don't believe a system can be better the human brains, just because the market is made from human brains.

thanks,
Christian
  • #34
  • Edited Jun 18, 2006 1:59am Jun 17, 2006 10:47pm | Edited Jun 18, 2006 1:59am
I don`t think you need 100% return within 3 days to be successful so this seems to be a pretty silly thread anyway but pip-gandolf brings up something reminiscent of a pet theory of mine.
First I hate to say this but here goes .....The only fulltime wealthy trader that I know told me 2 things I will never forget
1 ....is that he wouldn`t devulge his trading methodology to anyone for anything because as mentioned in this thread he feels that systems start to fail when everyone is doing the same thing.
2....He told me to approach any info from forums like this with humor and caution because the only people frequenting these sites are those in need of a system and it will always be a case of the blind leading the blind. He said that successful traders don`t need these boards.
I hope I don`t offend anyone here, these are not my words I am only sharing what I was told.
However this is what I think .Pip Gandolf, if there were a system that was anywhere near as productive as what you are talking about it would have to be developed by someone with years of fulltime experience and along with that would come the maturity and common sense not to spread it around in places like this. Don`t worry be happy.
  • #35
  • Jun 17, 2006 11:16pm Jun 17, 2006 11:16pm
Quoting smjones
PG,


Really, before I use up another moment of my time with any dialog with you, please answer my question in this post. If you cannot answer what is the point in even talking?

http://www.forexfactory.com/forexfor...78&postcount=7

Please address this.
thanks Scott

I am still waiting for the answer to this question.
JOHN 3:16
  • #36
  • Jun 17, 2006 11:24pm Jun 17, 2006 11:24pm
Quoting witchazel
...And ever beyond that, most systems work because people think they do (hoodoo!)...
Good one Witchazel. The more i look at the charts the more i think your comment is pip on. If one spends time with nearly any moving average above the teens, there will be times that the currency will play off that MA like clockwork. It's kinda like doing research on a new car, say a Volvo Cross Country; we never really noticed them on the road until we bought one ourselves...now we'll see several every week in our little area on the Oregon Coast...And they ain't locals!

: ) Thom
  • #37
  • Jun 18, 2006 1:10am Jun 18, 2006 1:10am
PG, my man...I totally understand what you're trying to say. You're trying to say that if someone develops a system that makes 100% in 3 days, you want the moderators to remove it from the forum.

Honestly, all politics aside, you and I will never see eye-to-eye on this. So, we'll have to agree to disagree, bro.

Cool?

Personally, I don't think you have ANYTHING to worry about...anyone who creates that profitable of a system of that magnitude would NOT post it here...and you will DEFINITELY have the right to blast anyone who DOES post here...cool?

Take it easy, bro.
  • #38
  • Jul 11, 2006 5:33pm Jul 11, 2006 5:33pm
Scott, I would have to agree with your point of view. I believe there is more to making money forex market than technical analysis and a set plan.
  • #39
  • Jul 11, 2006 5:46pm Jul 11, 2006 5:46pm
The most I've been able to make is 100% in one day. And a lot of things have to come together to do it. To execute properly, you can't have other things on your mind besides the task your at. I mean 100% scalping the waves, imagine anticipating the next wave, and riding it to fruition. Some waves you might get pummeled, but have to learn to get out and wait for the next one. Trading really reminds me of surfing. You almost get a runners high when everything syncs.
Price is the only indicator.
  • #40
  • Last Post: Jul 11, 2006 5:52pm Jul 11, 2006 5:52pm
It is one thing to post a system, and it is quite different for people to actually be able to USE it. What works for you may not work for someone else. If some people start to use the system than it will work BETTER since all the levels and signals will be much more powerful. It may not become obsolete, why?

It will not become obsolete because people's goals and time periods are different! Not everyone is interested in scalping or daytrading. For many position traders 20 pips here and there is not a big deal, while for scalpers it is.
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