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  • #341
  • Feb 14, 2014 7:28am Feb 14, 2014 7:28am
Quoting euclid
{quote} Didn't the users always need to know where their installation was located? I would search the system for likely looking "MQL4" directories and give the user a choice. Where the folder path contains an encoded terminal id, display the contents of the origin.txt file to enable the user to identify it.
My install programs often put experts, indicators, scripts, set files, and templates in the corrects place. The user only needs to select the top level MT4 folder. I am off to bed but you should get the idea.

That leaves it up to the user to know and I have had to hand hold some users just to get to their MT4 folder.
With the installer they search the usual way and click on the MQ4 folder they want. But these are ex4 so where should they reside to be seen and used? In the virtual folder or ??
And what happens to my install program when I must update again for the build that requires the other folder structure that, apparently, is not used right now.
As I also mentioned the indicator in the MQ4 folder was not the one I needed to send to my client. It was found in the User folder and was hidden. And yes I know how to unhide folders.

I just finished re-compiling everything to a build above 509 and now must do it again. Took almost a week to update everything on my website because of changes to the install programs.

Robert
  • #342
  • Feb 14, 2014 7:34am Feb 14, 2014 7:34am
Build 610???



Wake me up when it hit 1000 after the weekend.
  • #343
  • Feb 14, 2014 7:44am Feb 14, 2014 7:44am
Quoting Xaphod
If you are really unhappy with MT4, there are other trading platforms one can consider migrating to. For example: cTrader/cAlgo: It is said to have a mql4 to C# converter. ProTrader: Protrader 3 can compile and use MT4 indicators in addition to its own C# indicators. And there are of course the professional platforms too. Here is a tale about another software company that ignored their users: http://arstechnica.com/information-t...-desk-darling/...
Thanks for this information.
  • #344
  • Feb 14, 2014 7:58am Feb 14, 2014 7:58am
I finally figured out how to install Custom Indicators
available from outside, and into the MT4 Trading Platform.

I experimented, and this works.

Acquire the person's Custom Indicators as per their usual method,
and place those into the area on their computer which they usually
place them.

For those Custom Indicators, right click, select copy.

Open the MT4 Trading Platform.

Select File, Open Data Folder, double click on the
MQL4 Folder, double click on the Indicators Folder,
paste the Custom Indicator into that Folder.

Close, re-open the MT4 Folder. The installed
Custom Indicator appears under Custom Indicators
on the MT4 Trading Platform.

Indicators that are coloured gray are no longer
functioning.

EAs with an MQ4 extension same approach as above
except into the MQL4 / Experts Folder.

EAs with an EXE extension, I am not sure as I do
not use EAs. My thinking is follow this path during
the installation process. C: Program Files, Data Folder,
MQL4 Folder, Experts Folder, and / or also into
C: Program Files MQL4 Folder, Experts Folder.

I hope this helps.
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  • #345
  • Feb 14, 2014 8:10am Feb 14, 2014 8:10am
Quoting 78020f
Indicators that are coloured gray are no longer functioning. .
not true.gray indicator means that you do not have the source code.they'll work fine.
  • #346
  • Feb 14, 2014 8:11am Feb 14, 2014 8:11am
To remove the installed Custom Indicator, same
approach as above.

Open the MT4 Trading Platform. Select File, Open Data
Folder, double click on the MQL4 Folder, double click
on the Indicators Folder. Locate the Custom Indicator
to be removed, right click on that, select Delete.

Close the MT4 Trading Platform.

As mentioned, I do not use EAs, but my thinking
is uninstall as per the usual method, and possibly
shall laso need to manually remove by opening the
MT4 Trading Platform, selecting File, Open Data Folder,
double click on the MQL4 Folder, double click on the
Experts Folder, locate the EA, select right click on that,
select Delete, and / or open the MT4 Trading Platform,
selecting File, Open Data Folder, double clicking on Experts
Folder, locate the EA, select that, right click, select Delete.

I hope that helps.
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  • #347
  • Feb 14, 2014 8:43am Feb 14, 2014 8:43am
Quoting 78020f
I hope this helps.
I'm pretty sure it doesn't.
  • #348
  • Feb 14, 2014 8:47am Feb 14, 2014 8:47am
The source code is built into the indicator, and remains unless changed or the indicator has been rendered
not useable by it's author resulting in the indicator being grayed out after installation.
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  • #349
  • Feb 14, 2014 9:07am Feb 14, 2014 9:07am
  •  FerruFx
  • Joined May 2007 | Status: MT4/MT5 EAs/Indicators/Alerts coder | 6,542 Posts | Online Now
Quoting 78020f
The source code is built into the indicator, and remains unless changed or the indicator has been rendered not useable by it's author resulting in the indicator being grayed out after installation.
The only reason the icon is greyed is because the source code .mq4 isn't in the folder.

Anyway, the platform doesn't care about the source code .mq4 files. The only file used by your platform is the .ex4
MT4/MT5 EAs/Indicators/Alerts coder
  • #350
  • Feb 14, 2014 9:08am Feb 14, 2014 9:08am
  •  FerruFx
  • Joined May 2007 | Status: MT4/MT5 EAs/Indicators/Alerts coder | 6,542 Posts | Online Now
Quoting 78020f
the indicator has been rendered not useable by it's author resulting in the indicator being grayed out after installation.


You really don't know what you are talking about.
MT4/MT5 EAs/Indicators/Alerts coder
  • #351
  • Feb 14, 2014 9:46am Feb 14, 2014 9:46am
Quoting MrPip
As a writer of custom indicators and EAs for clienta sll over the world I have many installs of build 509 from brokers all over the world as well on my developments system. Most of them are now shut down to avoid the trojan horse from Metaquotes.

ahhhhh.. yes... Hello MrPip. I have used some of your great programs in the past and so I respect your opinion very much. It's such a shame something a great as MT4 has been to so many people for so long has been stabbed in the back, without warning whatsoever. The least they could have done is say give a time line, maybe a year for those of us with programming in use to update those programs before the switch happened. They way they did this is truely unforgivable.
As far as where the EA's were I was looking for I finally found them, not in Appdata/etc...where others live, not in MT4/Experts... which still exists in my directories but finally in a new folder MT4/MQL4/Experts. There are folders with EA's all over my computer placed there by this new system and I do run Windows 7.
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  • #352
  • Feb 14, 2014 9:47am Feb 14, 2014 9:47am
Quoting Xaphod
If you are really unhappy with MT4,


Hello Xaphod, this really has nothing to do with am I happy or not with MT4. It has to do with THERE IS NO MORE MT4 as we knew it! It's gone! That is what I am unhappy about, the bait and switch of it all. It seems amazing to me that this is seemingly unnoticed by a few.
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  • #353
  • Feb 14, 2014 9:47am Feb 14, 2014 9:47am
Quoting MrPip
This new build has been such a mess I am forgetting where I have posted things. I have 2 build 600's on the same machine running Windows 7. One is from FXDD, the other from MetaQuotes. Both are installed on the C drive NOT IN PROGRAM FILES. I go the the file menu and select Open Data Folder. They both point to different relative locations. The FXDD version points to C:\FXDD\MQ4
EXACTLY!! lol
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  • #354
  • Feb 14, 2014 9:49am Feb 14, 2014 9:49am
Quoting FerruFx
{quote} The only reason the icon is greyed is because the source code .mq4 isn't in the folder. Anyway, the platform doesn't care about the source code .mq4 files. The only file used by your platform is the .ex4
Quick question - if I have a FastTMAline.mq4 file how does that get installed to Build 600's? Can I only load up .ex4 files into Build 600's?
  • #355
  • Feb 14, 2014 9:53am Feb 14, 2014 9:53am
Quoting Carlsberg
Does anyone know how long it will be before they pull the plug on the New MT4 and force us onto MT5 also for anyone who saw my auto delete idea of the Webstall and Metaquotes folders using http://www.robobasket.com/ so far there have been no more updates and am fairly sure one MT4 is trying to update and is stuck on 509 lots of files appear but they just get sent to the bin before the update is complete will continue testing and maybe useful to prevent endless further updates (and hopefully it bloody works)

Guess what. They are on v604 at the moment.. was 600 a day before and 590 just a few days before that. And now when I start my platforms it starts, then goes away and comes up with a nice big post it saying "Thank you for updating your platform.... etc." so you no longer will have the option of keeping any version you might like (unless there is a sly way) like unless you never shut off your system or platform I guess.

MT4 has all the MT5 garbage without the name. There is no more MT4.
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  • #356
  • Feb 14, 2014 9:55am Feb 14, 2014 9:55am
Quoting 78020f
I finally figured out how to install Custom Indicators available from outside, and into the MT4 Trading Platform. I experimented, and this works. Acquire the person's Custom Indicators as per their usual method, and place those into the area on their computer which they usually place them. I hope this helps.
Does not help at all because the stuff that does not work any longer is the stuff I need.
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  • #357
  • Feb 14, 2014 9:57am Feb 14, 2014 9:57am
Quoting 78020f
The source code is built into the indicator, and remains unless changed or the indicator has been rendered not useable by it's author resulting in the indicator being grayed out after installation.

That's only if you removed any .mq4 source files in time. IF you didn't then your .ex4's will no longer run because they get recompiled when you start up your platform into what the new great MT4 files see as GARBAGE.
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  • #358
  • Feb 14, 2014 9:58am Feb 14, 2014 9:58am
  •  FerruFx
  • Joined May 2007 | Status: MT4/MT5 EAs/Indicators/Alerts coder | 6,542 Posts | Online Now
Quoting COGnizant
{quote} Quick question - if I have a FastTMAline.mq4 file how does that get installed to Build 600's? Can I only load up .ex4 files into Build 600's?
Only .ex4 files (from build 509) must be copied in the 600+ builds.
MT4/MT5 EAs/Indicators/Alerts coder
  • #359
  • Feb 14, 2014 10:00am Feb 14, 2014 10:00am
Quoting COGnizant
{quote} Quick question - if I have a FastTMAline.mq4 file how does that get installed to Build 600's? Can I only load up .ex4 files into Build 600's?
If you have the .ex4 and it is not recompiled yet by versions greater than 500 (or so) then you can use it in the build 600's provided you do not place your source files in the folder with it. This way the ex4 can not be recompiled so it will run. Other than that we are screwed.
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  • #360
  • Feb 14, 2014 10:00am Feb 14, 2014 10:00am
Quoting FerruFx
{quote} Only .ex4 files (from build 509) must be copied in the 600+ builds.

Or before.
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