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  • #381
  • Feb 5, 2014 1:34am Feb 5, 2014 1:34am
Quoting Xaphod
{quote} Sorry, I do not have an indicator that does that. Cheers.
No matter - thank you for replying ?
  • #382
  • Feb 6, 2014 6:33am Feb 6, 2014 6:33am
<p>Hi</p>

<p>&nbsp;</p>

<p>Is it possible to update GMTS Matrix and GMTS Dash so they check in the correct</p>

<p>place for MT4 V600? Currently they cannot find the relevant files.</p>

<p>&nbsp;</p>

<p>Pls advise - Thanks</p>
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  • #383
  • Feb 6, 2014 7:09am Feb 6, 2014 7:09am
MQ4 Build 600

Meantime you can read a lot about not working EAs using the build 600. I was surprised, restarting my demo (the live system still runs on 509), that almost all EAs, especially the 'Genesis Matrix' ones, still are working. I have no labels on the GMTS-Dash, but that's all. And I wasn't using the most recent version with 6 TFs, but the older one with max of 4 TFs.

Would be interesting, if others have experienced such a 'smooth upgrade' too or it maybe it's caused by some (invisible) broker supplements.
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  • #384
  • Feb 6, 2014 8:19am Feb 6, 2014 8:19am
Quoting mosiskv
Is it possible to update GMTS Matrix and GMTS Dash so they check in the correct place for MT4 V600? Currently they cannot find the relevant files
I'll update them when I get time. Maybe this weekend.

Deselect the "Allow dll imports" in the common tab of the indicator properties and it will not perform the file check.
  • #385
  • Feb 6, 2014 8:48am Feb 6, 2014 8:48am
Thanks for quick response!
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  • #386
  • Feb 10, 2014 12:52pm Feb 10, 2014 12:52pm
Hi Xaphod
I use the GMTS matrix on offline charts to show lower and higher time frames, but since build600 this no longer works.
is it possible that you could have a look at this. The matrix worked very well on build509 offline charts, your help would be much appreciated

Thanks traderuk
  • #387
  • Feb 10, 2014 4:10pm Feb 10, 2014 4:10pm
Quoting traderuk
Hi Xaphod I use the GMTS matrix on offline charts to show lower and higher time frames, but since build600 this no longer works. is it possible that you could have a look at this. The matrix worked very well on build509 offline charts, your help would be much appreciated Thanks traderuk
I just tried out the GMTS-Matrix indicator on an M10 chart in build602 and it works. You will need to make sure you have installed the indicators correctly:
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...71#post7261371

'no longer works' is a very vague error description that gives little to no insight into what your problem may be.
  • #388
  • Feb 11, 2014 1:47am Feb 11, 2014 1:47am
Quoting Xaphod
{quote} I just tried out the GMTS-Matrix indicator on an M10 chart in build602 and it works. You will need to make sure you have installed the indicators correctly: http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...71#post7261371 'no longer works' is a very vague error description that gives little to no insight into what your problem may be.
Yes your right Xaphod my description was very vague. I will try again with description as to why I think its not working on my offline charts.

In the meantime Xaphod if you do have an indicator that creates offline charts from a mix of currency pairs in the new build, would you mind sharing it here or where I might be able to download it from. As you can tell Im no coder just someone learning how to trade.. so thanks for your help in advance
  • #389
  • Feb 11, 2014 8:14am Feb 11, 2014 8:14am
Thank you Xaphod for all the work - I've managed to install most of the indicators despite my limited knowledge

Most of the indicators I can use and know how to adjust them. Only thing I don't know is how to set the alert on GMTS Tape (kind of similar alert to arrow's alert). I've tried without any success (was setting Alert_4Bars, Alert_OnBarClose and Alert_Popup to true and also put a .wav file in Alert_Sound value). Although I did all this there was no alert (pop up or sound) when there was a color change.

The alerts on arrows work ok and I know how to switch them off (as I don't need them that much). I would need alerts on GMTS Tape, but can't turn them on - funny situation.

Hope you can shed some light on this - if it's possible to do it and how

Thanks
dr

BTW They seem to work ok in new MT4 version apart from Dash which is grey color in Navigator window (that window that displays all the custom indicators), but works if dropped on the charts. I've noticed few of some other custom indicators with grey color as well. Despite that grey color they work once I insert them. I guess they can't be edited for whatever reason (in previous MT4 version there were normal color - yellow folder) There is a picture of it attached:
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  • #390
  • Feb 11, 2014 9:02am Feb 11, 2014 9:02am
Quoting traderuk
{quote} Yes your right Xaphod my description was very vague. I will try again with description as to why I think its not working on my offline charts. In the meantime Xaphod if you do have an indicator that creates offline charts from a mix of currency pairs in the new build, would you mind sharing it here or where I might be able to download it from. As you can tell Im no coder just someone learning how to trade.. so thanks for your help in advance
No, I do not have such an indicator. You can find one here:
http://www.forex-tsd.com/general-dis...tml#post661792
  • #391
  • Feb 11, 2014 9:18am Feb 11, 2014 9:18am
Quoting demoreal
Thank you Xaphod for all the work - I've managed to install most of the indicators despite my limited knowledge Most of the indicators I can use and know how to adjust them. Only thing I don't know is how to set the alert on GMTS Tape (kind of similar alert to arrow's alert). I've tried without any success (was setting Alert_4Bars, Alert_OnBarClose and Alert_Popup to true and also put a .wav file in Alert_Sound value). Although I did all this there was no alert (pop up or sound) when there was a color change. The alerts on arrows...
You should not have the source files for the old GMTS indicators in the new MT4 data folder. If it tries to compile them, it will fail and then they will not work at all.

I do not know why you have a problem with the alerts in the tape indicator. If they worked for the previous version of MT4, I would expect them to continue working in the new version. If you cannot get them to work, you will have to wait until I am ready with updating the indicators, or revert back to the old version of MT4 temporarily if you cannot wait.

The colors of the indicators in the navigator in the new MT4 is a bit of a mystery to me. Are they using 2 colors to show more than 2 different states?
  • #392
  • Feb 11, 2014 9:46am Feb 11, 2014 9:46am
Quoting Xaphod
{quote} You should not have the source files for the old GMTS indicators in the new MT4 data folder. If it tries to compile them, it will fail and then they will not work at all. I do not know why you have a problem with the alerts in the tape indicator. If they worked for the previous version of MT4, I would expect them to continue working in the new version. If you cannot get them to work, you will have to wait until I am ready with updating the indicators, or revert back to the old version of MT4 temporarily if you cannot wait. The colors of...
Thanks Xaphod - I'm just experimenting with Genesis atm. I think I need a lot more time to study what set ups to dismiss and what to trade (taking signals indiscriminately would lose money imho). I wanted also to see what markets are good for this system - that's why I wanted to use tape alerts, so I can compare success rate. It's a bit difficult to follow lots of markets. Once I started trading, I would follow only few of the markets anyway.

About grey indicators - I don't know. MT4 upgraded automatically (just received the message - 'congratulations - you are upgraded to...' and that was it) I didn't even try to go back to previous version (no idea how to do it anyway)
I have some other custom indicators I added some time ago and some of them are grey as well. The only difference I can see is when you right click on one of the indicators within Navigator window and choose 'Modify' option if they are yellow, you can edit the code. Grey ones can't be opened/modified.

So far as indicators used in Genesis are concerned (as suggested in RJ's post no.1) the following indicators are grey:
GMTS-Dash
LFL-ATRProjections
Market_Open_Lines c
FXI Pivots

They work when inserted in charts, but can't be modified (the code can't be modified)
  • #393
  • Feb 11, 2014 10:01am Feb 11, 2014 10:01am
Quoting demoreal
{quote} Thanks Xaphod - I'm just experimenting with Genesis atm. I think I need a lot more time to study what set ups to dismiss and what to trade (taking signals indiscriminately would lose money imho). I wanted also to see what markets are good for this system - that's why I wanted to use tape alerts, so I can compare success .....
Sorry, it was a rhetorical question. Yes, grey indicators denote that the source code is not available. That appears to still be the case.

It appears that in the update, they copy the source for indicators that the new MT4 cannot compile to the new MQL4 folders. This is a bit reckless because if for some reason it tries to compile the indicators, the compilation will fail and then they stop working. An accident waiting to happen.
  • #394
  • Feb 11, 2014 3:57pm Feb 11, 2014 3:57pm
Hello, I've been reading the thread for a while and I decided to give this system a try after some year I quitted forex. Unfortunately I just dowloaded a MT4 in these days (build 600), and this is how my Navigator window looks like.
Some of the greyed indicators still work once attached to the chard (e.g. GMTS matrix, GMTS tape), others (e.g. all the ASCTrend serie) don't.
Just my contribution to the discussion.
I use windows 7.
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  • #395
  • Feb 11, 2014 5:02pm Feb 11, 2014 5:02pm
Quoting Xaphod
{quote} Sorry, it was a rhetorical question. Yes, grey indicators denote that the source code is not available. That appears to still be the case. It appears that in the update, they copy the source for indicators that the new MT4 cannot compile to the new MQL4 folders. This is a bit reckless because if for some reason it tries to compile the indicators, the compilation will fail and then they stop working. An accident waiting to happen.
Just to clarify Xaphod, I have deleted all the .mq4 files from the new 'Indicators' folder. Everything is running just fine under Build 600, so I'm assuming that doing as I have done is a good thing? If so I might mention it on the Genesis thread.

Cheers,
RJ
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #396
  • Feb 11, 2014 6:57pm Feb 11, 2014 6:57pm
Quoting realjumper
{quote} Just to clarify Xaphod, I have deleted all the .mq4 files from the new 'Indicators' folder. Everything is running just fine under Build 600, so I'm assuming that doing as I have done is a good thing? If so I might mention it on the Genesis thread. Cheers, RJ
Deleting the mq4 files that will not compile successfully is a good thing. However it is not practically possible to know which ones will compile and which ones will not, so your method of deleting 'all' of them is one way of making sure it continues to work. It would be wise to make a backup copy before so one does not lose any indicators. The files should be still in the old 'experts/indicators/' folder though.

I do not know for sure what leads to the situation a couple of posts above where some indicators work and some don't. My guess is that the new MT4 for some reason tries to compile some of the old indicators it has moved over and the compilation fails. Then instead of making the indicator icons another color, perhaps red, they simply mark them as grey. But grey is supposed to mean 'source not available' not 'source not compilable'.
  • #397
  • Feb 11, 2014 7:00pm Feb 11, 2014 7:00pm
Quoting Moonwen
Hello, I've been reading the thread for a while and I decided to give this system a try after some year I quitted forex. Unfortunately I just dowloaded a MT4 in these days (build 600), and this is how my Navigator window looks like. Some of the greyed indicators still work once attached to the chard (e.g. GMTS matrix, GMTS tape), others (e.g. all the ASCTrend serie) don't. Just my contribution to the discussion. I use windows 7. {image}
To run old indicators that do not compile successfully in the new version:

  1. Find the MT4 data folder:
    http://forum.mql4.com/60555
    See point 3.
  2. Locate the 'oldindi*.ex4' files in where ever MT4 stores them: "..\experts\indicators\". The file date stamps will be prior to the update.
  3. Locate the newly compiled files in the new "..\MQL4\indicators\" folder. Make a backup copy and delete both the 'oldindi*.mq4' and 'oldindi*.ex4' files.
  4. Copy the old *.ex4 to the new "..\MQL4\indicators\" folder. Do not copy the *.mq4 files. Make sure to get any other required indicators/files.
  5. Restart MT4

Programs that generate offline charts will not work without being rewritten and recompiled:
http://articles.mql4.com/1140

Some programs that call dll's with string parameters may not work correctly without rewriting. MT4 now uses unicode strings. It previously used ANSI strings. Ditto for the use of rate arrays.

  • #398
  • Feb 11, 2014 7:39pm Feb 11, 2014 7:39pm
Quoting Xaphod
{quote} Deleting the mq4 files that will not compile successfully is a good thing. However it is not practically possible to know which ones will compile and which ones will not, so your method of deleting 'all' of them is one way of making sure it continues to work. It would be wise to make a backup copy before so one does not lose any indicators. The files should be still in the old 'experts/indicators/' folder though. I do not know for sure what leads to the situation a couple of posts above where some indicators work and some don't. My guess...
Yup...thanks for that Xaphod. I do have 2 or 3 complete backups of all indicators and templates online and on other computers etc, so I should be fine in the 'total loss' scenario.

Yes I can't understand some people having problems either.....everything is working just fine for me under Build 600....no issues whatsoever
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  • #399
  • Feb 11, 2014 8:26pm Feb 11, 2014 8:26pm
Quoting realjumper
{quote} Yup...thanks for that Xaphod. I do have 2 or 3 complete backups of all indicators and templates online and on other computers etc, so I should be fine in the 'total loss' scenario. Yes I can't understand some people having problems either.....everything is working just fine for me under Build 600....no issues whatsoever
You are one of the lucky ones. It probably depends on what indicators you use and if the upgrade process goes through without any hiccups.

I was sure you had backups. I mentioned it mostly for the benefit of others who may not.
  • #400
  • Feb 11, 2014 10:20pm Feb 11, 2014 10:20pm
Updated the ASCTrend indicators. v1.600:

  1. Update for Build 600+.
  2. Added alert sounds for buy and sell.
  3. Removed custom indicator check which will not work with sub-folders.

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