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  • #201
  • Feb 10, 2014 8:26am Feb 10, 2014 8:26am
I did some more reading at the MQL4 Community Forum.

Metaquotes recently released Update Build 604 to correct
the issues with Update Build 600 that correction should
of been transmitted to all Brokerage's MT4 Trading Platforms.

If it has not, and in some instances that happens, suggest uninstalling
the old MT4 Trading Platform, and installing a new one. That should work
so long as the Brokerage's MT4 Trading Platform received Update Build 604.

Hope that helps.
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  • #202
  • Feb 10, 2014 8:42am Feb 10, 2014 8:42am
Quoting chaveznqoos
{quote} Global Prime http://www.globalprime.com.au/ Regards

Thanks again
  • #203
  • Feb 10, 2014 8:58am Feb 10, 2014 8:58am
Quoting 78020f
I did some more reading at the MQL4 Community Forum. Metaquotes recently released Update Build 604 to correct the issues with Update Build 600 that correction should of been transmitted to all Brokerage's MT4 Trading Platforms. If it has not, and in some instances that happens, suggest uninstalling the old MT4 Trading Platform, and installing a new one. That should work so long as the Brokerage's MT4 Trading Platform received Update Build 604. Hope that helps.

Sorry to tell you this but I have Build 604 and it is exactly the mess that we are talking about....
Scarlett
  • #204
  • Feb 10, 2014 9:06am Feb 10, 2014 9:06am
Quoting 78020f
For my new trading approach, I am testing two ways of determing the Support, Resistance ( Buy, Sell Take Profit ) Levels. The first one are Trend Lines, as explained in my previous post which need to be adjusted when the trade is still running at 8:00 AM EST. The second from Barchart at http://www.barchart.com/ Their Trader's Cheat Sheet available for all currency pairs, commodities etc., provide Support, and Resistance Levels starting at or within a couple of minutes after the markets open Sunday evening at 6:00 PM EST Just locate what...
thanks for the ideas
simple still works, Metaquote's can try, but they can't stuff up S/R

and the least custom indicators as possible would seem wise from now on, which will require much less fixing everytime MQs feel the need for a change
and can then be converted to another platform such as Tradestation without huge expense

Metaquotes have stuffed this right up, its not the same at company's like Apple or Microsoft
XP is still running happily on many millions of P.Cs, and we don't hear Bill Gates moaning, or is he any poorer
Metaqote's seems to be run by a bunch of arrogant amateurs
  • #205
  • Feb 10, 2014 9:38am Feb 10, 2014 9:38am
Quoting Carlsberg
{quote} thanks for the ideas simple still works, Metaquote's can try, but they can't stuff up S/R and the least custom indicators as possible would seem wise from now on, which will require much less fixing everytime MQs feel the need for a change and can then be converted to another platform such as Tradestation without huge expense Metaquotes have stuffed this right up, its not the same at company's like Apple or Microsoft XP is still running happily on many millions of P.Cs, and we don't hear Bill Gates moaning, or is he any poorer Metaqote's...
I agree with your thoughts that the fewer the indicators the better.
However, I just saw yesterday that XP is no longer going to be supported by Microsoft after 04/14.....
I didn't verify this but I saw it at a computer store offering to migrate files elsewhere.
Scarlett
  • #206
  • Feb 10, 2014 10:01am Feb 10, 2014 10:01am
Quoting Scarlett
{quote} I agree with your thoughts that the fewer the indicators the better. However, I just saw yesterday that XP is no longer going to be supported by Microsoft after 04/14..... I didn't verify this but I saw it at a computer store offering to migrate files elsewhere.
hopefully we should still be able to use XP, and Bill Gates won't send a virus (update) in Microsoft essentials rendering XP useless overnight
  • #207
  • Feb 10, 2014 11:01am Feb 10, 2014 11:01am
Quoting Jeff Crystal
hayseed ..Metastock and IBFX programmers roll back and forth between Companies . The owner of Metastock is a Close personal buddy of mine for many years. I been trading for 22 years and I have gotten 2 know lots of people. Build 600 was a world Wide Mess, Maybe Crystal was before Hayseed. in the Pyle. I will be driving down some time next week 2 have lunch with some of the people at IBFX and will get 2 the bottom of what I need. Oh By the way the compiler is WAY better and i am getting 2 know it well. I just ripped out all my old flow tracking...

Thanks Jeff

I took your advice and have installed IBFX (AU). It has a 604 build. Yikes, not good.
  • #208
  • Feb 10, 2014 11:18am Feb 10, 2014 11:18am
IT was 5 some thing when I posted it
  • #209
  • Feb 10, 2014 11:52am Feb 10, 2014 11:52am
Quoting figgsey
{quote} Thanks Jeff I took your advice and have installed IBFX (AU). It has a 604 build. Yikes, not good.
I have a few live accounts with IBfX (us). Im not sure if this will help you but I keep my MT4 in my C:drive. I'm still using 509. I've recently downloaded recent demos to test compatibility. When I allow it to run from the internet (webinstaller) by default it goes into program files. It downloads 509, then updates itself to 600. And still 509 on the c drive is unaffected. You might instead just save the file. Then unpack it and install it to C. Its possible it wont automatically update itself to 600. Its works for me that way. I had this issue a couple of years ago, when I spoke with IBFX they said my platform wasnt working because I initiated the update, they didnt. The man told me in the past they didnt always use every update as they are often buggy and newer builds are released to correct issues. He said they dont do updates until its they know things are working correctly. Im not saying they wont be forced to do this update eventually, but I dont think until absolutely necessary. But you may try to manually install it yourself on C...........
Markets are not efficient, rather they are effective - Jones
  • #210
  • Feb 10, 2014 1:51pm Feb 10, 2014 1:51pm
I made my day !
I compiling my ea and the custom indi's with 0 errors with the new mt4 !
Testing is OK.
Very simple.

Just READ the errors !

And a little played with the code !
  • #211
  • Feb 10, 2014 2:09pm Feb 10, 2014 2:09pm
email alert (AOL) doesn't work under MT4 600 (Admiral Markets, Mac).

any chance to fix it easily? i am not to good with computer stuff
  • #212
  • Feb 10, 2014 3:02pm Feb 10, 2014 3:02pm
Quoting mzvega
{quote} I have a few live accounts with IBfX (us). Im not sure if this will help you but I keep my MT4 in my C:drive. I'm still using 509. I've recently downloaded recent demos to test compatibility. When I allow it to run from the internet (webinstaller) by default it goes into program files. It downloads 509, then updates itself to 600. And still 509 on the c drive is unaffected. You might instead just save the file. Then unpack it and install it to C. Its possible it wont automatically update itself to 600. Its works for me that way. I had this...
Great and I am obliged. Not sure if I can open an account being in the UK.. But its worth a shot!
  • #213
  • Feb 10, 2014 6:12pm Feb 10, 2014 6:12pm
I just got off the phone with FXDD and was told that they no longer control the upgrade process.
I will be talking to tech support tomorrow.

And yes, the new build is a total mess.
As many know I am a software engineer since the mid 70's who started coding MT4 in 2005.
This new build is the biggest disaster I have seen in my entire programming career.

BTW, Templates are broken.

I use a template from a local user group in Los Angeles.
One of the indicators failed to compile on the new build.
I opened the indicator in the usual way from the navigator.
Fixed the bug, compiled, placed on chart to test and it worked.
Opened a new chart and applied the template,
The indicator did not work.
I deleted the indicator from the chart and objects were left on the chart.
The indicator worked fine when standalone.
I removed the objects and put the new version from the navigator window on the chart.
I then saved the template.
Opened a new chart, applied the new template and .......
The old indicator is still there!!!!
Now I find out my indicator is in a data folder.
Is the folder different for each MT4 installed? I have over 20 MT4s from different brokers as I use the platform of my client when I program for them.

Robert
  • #214
  • Feb 10, 2014 6:51pm Feb 10, 2014 6:51pm
Hi Everyone

Just wondering if anyone has had any experience with EAs running on Basket offline charts.

It seems with the 604 the EAs can no longer read the offline chart and if the EA does any iCustom calls with the same period as the offline chart they just keep loading and unloading, kind of like they can't find the chart to load the indy on that the iCustom is using.

I have coded a new basket create indy as suggested by MQL and it displays properly, but even EAs that are built with 604 don't work on these new Basket offline charts, can't get Close, Open, etc anymore.

EAs compiled under 509 no longer work on 604 either.

Tried all different combinations with no luck, it gives me a headache.

What a mess.
  • #215
  • Feb 10, 2014 6:56pm Feb 10, 2014 6:56pm
Quoting seller9
Tried all different combinations with no luck, it gives me a headache. What a mess.
That was the main goal for brokers and Metaquotes ...
MT4/MT5 EAs/Indicators/Alerts coder
  • #216
  • Feb 10, 2014 7:05pm Feb 10, 2014 7:05pm
This thread has been a long and arduous read. Bottom line from what I can see is that pretty much every custom indicator, EA, script, and now template made in pre-600 will need coding work.

Coincidentally I have been exploring migrating my work to Trade Station which uses "easy language". There are a number of programs that use this language, including e-signal, and Ninja Trader. The only difference is that most require that we purchase a software license. OK so be it...this is the nature of business...

But I have to wonder...how much effort and time will it take to re-write all of your custom indicators in v600, and how much time and effort will it take to just port your existing indicators to a new platform? I am not a coder or a programmer, but I did teach myself MQL4 and wrote several EA's and indicators. For me the question is this...if it is about the same effort to learn a new programming language than is it to rewrite all my current custom work, wouldn't it be better to migrate to a platform that promises support, and is more stable from the stand point of "new" upgrades?

Food for thought....I think I will begin the migration process to trade station and any and all brokers who may be reading this thread...think about it...

If this new upgrade causes this much grief among the programming community, imagine those of us who really don't code?
  • #217
  • Feb 10, 2014 8:02pm Feb 10, 2014 8:02pm
New Build liquidity Aggregator and Metatrader five


Did MetaTrader just become a liquidity Aggregator. Some of the new Screens in shown in this post http://forum.mql4.com/46992/page2#750283

They Meaning MetaTrader should not have access 2 that Data . Forex is NOT a centralized exchange and Level one Data or Best Bid and ask is limited to theliquidity providers of the Dealing desk or STP desk you are using. Level Two Data or Best Bid and ask for each bank or Firm is limited 2 the liquidity providers of the Dealing desk or STP desk. Level Three or C learning house Data is Best bid and ask off all traders at said Firm. Are you Aggregating Trades? . I Would like 2 know the sources of the data we are trading on. I have a high degree of Faith in who I am trading with but lack this Trust with Metaquotes. It would go a long way if you explained the sources of the Data. I have been Puzzled. By the new Term Real Volume. You can not have real volume in forex. Unless you are on the INTRA bank system. Which is similar 2 Nasdaq but the INTRA bank system is no so public. Meaning not every one has access 2 it 2 trade on . So how all of the sudden has Metaquotes gained ACCESS to this Data. The implementations of this are VERY far reaching. Their is a Reason Centralize exchanges are heavily Regulated . This would Explain The hard handed upgrade policy
  • #218
  • Feb 10, 2014 9:04pm Feb 10, 2014 9:04pm
By the way, Oanda just pushed build 600 on this machine. I tried to kill the process, but it was too fast. Good thing I took Hanover's advice and made a backup this past weekend. Word to the wise! Thanks David!
  • #219
  • Feb 10, 2014 9:07pm Feb 10, 2014 9:07pm
Please tell me this has not happened. A buddy of mine and myself took what I consider a sub par desk and during non farm. collected all the Bids and recreated the bar by hand. That bar was the same as a chart on Reuters extra feed. That is not possible. unless you aggregate the bids make the charts and and Never display the fills. Every desk should have their own "Charts " and used 2. I use IBFX and the bid 2 I close is rarely off. I bet metaquotes now shows you best bid and ask of aggregated quotes and a requote is when your dealing desk is not near the aggregated bid or Ask.
  • #220
  • Feb 10, 2014 9:23pm Feb 10, 2014 9:23pm
no setup needed , just click and run....



FXCM 509 -
https://www.dropbox.com/s/udqjyzka4x...Trader%204.rar

FXDD 509-
https://www.dropbox.com/s/bi9kyn93i0...Trader%204.rar
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