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  • #61
  • Feb 5, 2014 12:39pm Feb 5, 2014 12:39pm
Quoting hanover
I exited and restarted Axi Trader's MT4 today, and presto, build 600 automatically appeared, without any prompting. Just for fun, I compiled one of my EAs (which has been running happily on build 509 for about 5 months now) and got 102 fatal errors and 132 warning errors. Bravo MetaQuotes!
Hi, Hanover,

I am impressed such results of your compiling. I am still using build 509, and the things I see prevent me from updating. Does anybody know why MQs are doing this shit, pardon me?
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  • #62
  • Feb 5, 2014 12:41pm Feb 5, 2014 12:41pm
Thanks for all the info posted in this thread. Very valuable!
What are the chances that MT4 servers will be set up to block transactions with a build older than 600??
Just wondering.......
Success is a marathon, not a sprint!
  • #63
  • Feb 5, 2014 12:42pm Feb 5, 2014 12:42pm
I noticed the MT5 icon for indicators.

Not good - does anyone know when MT4 will give way, finally to MT5?

My concern is with the incompatible indicators...
  • #64
  • Feb 5, 2014 1:26pm Feb 5, 2014 1:26pm
Fellow traders,
There is a half-solution of the problem. This solution has been already voiced here. However it might be helpful for somebody.
By clicking the link below you can find the attached archive with build 451 of MQ4. The Metaeditor file is executable itself enclosed.
1. Unzip the archive into the folder you like.
2. Find Metaeditor.exe and run it by double clicking.
3. Go to menu File -> Open (as soon as Metaeditor starts working).
4. Find the MQ4 (of EAs or indicators ) file you want to compile in order to use it in the new build 600. Click the Compile button to compile the MQ4 file.
5. Find the EX4 executable file in the same folder, where the MQ4 file is placed at.
6. Copy this EX4 file in to the MQ4 / Indicators folder of build 600. Run the new build.
The link - https://s3.amazonaws.com/tradelikeap...er/Old+Mt4.rar
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  • #65
  • Feb 5, 2014 1:41pm Feb 5, 2014 1:41pm
Quoting Kiads
Hi Guys, 1st always sorry for my bad English If you follow my explanation in platform tech sub forum about zip or rar file of your entirely MT4 build 509 platform folder; then you can try this step if you already 'forced' by your broker to update to MT4 build 600; WHEN YOU DO ALL THIS, MAKE SURE YOU DISCONNECTED FROM ANY INTERNET CONNECTIONS. Go to your C:\\ProgramData\MetaQuotes folder You will find WebInstall folder This is the source of the trouble that will automatically update any attempt to use old MT4 build 509, so just change it name to...

Hello Kiads,

Thanks for the 411, but what can I do to prevent my platform from upgrading to the new build once I shut down and restart my computer in the morning?
Thanks!
Let it turn and find your entry.
  • #66
  • Feb 5, 2014 2:07pm Feb 5, 2014 2:07pm
Quoting Intrepidpips
what can I do to prevent my platform from upgrading to the new build once I shut down and restart my computer in the morning?
Simple: When promted, deny the update!

This requires that you are logged on as a user with restricted rights, which should be the default anyway.
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  • #67
  • Feb 5, 2014 2:33pm Feb 5, 2014 2:33pm
Quoting Intrepidpips
{quote} Hello Kiads, Thanks for the 411, but what can I do to prevent my platform from upgrading to the new build once I shut down and restart my computer in the morning? Thanks!
Hi My Friend, at my post (post 45), do the step 1,2, and 3 will disable auto upgrading..

hope it help and best regard.
  • #68
  • Feb 5, 2014 5:28pm Feb 5, 2014 5:28pm
IMAO,
I think metaquote pretty funny.
New build`s motive is market tap.
I had been experience multitimeframe(like mt5),Depth of Market,,,,etc in the first beta build.
So,I was staggered.
But i did unistall beta build because bugs.
Now in the New build 600,
new features almost nothing.
In the case of ctrader,
They listens to the clients`s feedback.
every time update,
new features are always added.
  • #69
  • Feb 5, 2014 5:51pm Feb 5, 2014 5:51pm
Quoting Kiads
{quote} Hi My Friend, at my post (post 45), do the step 1,2, and 3 will disable auto upgrading.. hope it help and best regard.
Kiads,
Where may I find this folder? I looked everywhere on my broker's mt4 folder and I can't find(webinstall)? Where exactly is it located within the mt4 folders? You are certain that doing this will disable automatic update and not mess up anything within mt4? Thank you for your advice.
  • #70
  • Feb 5, 2014 6:59pm Feb 5, 2014 6:59pm
Quoting Kiads
Hi Guys, 1st always sorry for my bad English If you follow my explanation in platform tech sub forum about zip or rar file of your entirely MT4 build 509 platform folder; then you can try this step if you already 'forced' by your broker to update to MT4 build 600; WHEN YOU DO ALL THIS, MAKE SURE YOU DISCONNECTED FROM ANY INTERNET CONNECTIONS. Go to your C:\\ProgramData\MetaQuotes folder You will find WebInstall folder This is the source of the trouble that will automatically update any attempt to use old MT4 build 509, so just change it name to...

Hi Kiads,

Thank you very much for these.
It came too late for me, but now I found this way to revert back to 509.

Kind regards,

EMMANUEL
Honesty is a very expensive gift. You wont find it in cheap people.WBuffett
  • #71
  • Feb 5, 2014 7:37pm Feb 5, 2014 7:37pm
Email problems here too .
Its not just GMX . I have been sending email alerts through my own email server (hmail server) no problem for ages .
Now all of a sudden with build 600 , the email server rejects the connection with failed authentication.
Nothing has been changed on the email server. Sigh .
  • #72
  • Feb 5, 2014 8:40pm Feb 5, 2014 8:40pm
Quoting speed2
Hi Guys This new 600 version is causing me headaches. I know where the experts folder is however if i copy an indicator there it doesn't show up when i reboot the terminal. I tried moving my scripts and experts there as well and nothing is showing up in the terminal however it is in the file directory. any ideas on what i have done wrong?
How to install custom Indicators & EA

Open your Meta trader then follow this

Step 1st

http://i60.tinypic.com/2h2h1s8.png

Step 2nd

http://i59.tinypic.com/34ew8pi.png

Step 3rd

http://i60.tinypic.com/2vdf8dw.png
  • #73
  • Feb 5, 2014 9:44pm Feb 5, 2014 9:44pm
Quoting Mal-FX
{quote} Hi Speed2 - I had a similar issue today. It turned out I was copying and pasting to another MT4 upgraded platform on my computer. By clicking File/Open Data Folder within the upgraded MT4 terminal that you are trying to add to, check the last 3 alpha/numerical digits on the version number. For example, the pathway to the correct indicators folder that I needed to add .ex4 files to was: ....|AppData|Roaming|Metaquotes|Terminal|.......DC23F91B23CA16|MQL4|Indicators
Hi guys thanks very much solved the problem this way and it was a bit tricky. thanks a lot for the info
  • #74
  • Feb 5, 2014 9:53pm Feb 5, 2014 9:53pm
Quoting alagiri64
{quote} How to find out my broker's server I P Address? Thanks in advance
Hi,
no,ip adress.
Put your broker name.
It is searched automatically.
  • #75
  • Feb 5, 2014 11:47pm Feb 5, 2014 11:47pm
anyone know how to access offline chart values from an expert in this new build?

and is it a smarter bet to migrate to mt5 and be done with it?
it certainly feels like this is the way it's headed? whether i like it or not?
  • #76
  • Feb 5, 2014 11:59pm Feb 5, 2014 11:59pm
Previously, I made for myself a directory structure that contained all the indicators, scripts, templates, extra Sound files, etc. that I could easily copy-and-paste into any new MT4 installations. With the new 600+ builds and the Virtual Store in play, that has changed some things, but I think I have figured out a way to do things in a very similar way, once again.

I've re-arranged my files to match the new folder names and locations. I've also figured out how to not use the Virtual Store, or at least it appears to work.

I'm experimenting with using the "/portable" option, but it's use wasn't completely explained.

So far what I've figured out is... I happen to always use Shortcuts pinned to my Taskbar (Win7). I'm able to edit the Properties of the Shortcut.

In the Shortcut tab is this Target value, with quotes, before I change it:
"C:\Users\name\MT4 BETA\terminal.exe"

I changed that so now it says, exactly with and without quotes as follows:
"C:\Users\name\MT4 BETA\terminal.exe" /portable

Now when I click on my Shortcut, it starts up MT4, and it's looking for all the Indicator files under:
C:\Users\name\MT4 BETA\MQL4\Indicators\ (or Experts\ or Scripts\ or Files\ etc.)
It looks for profiles, Sounds, and templates under the MT4 BETA\ folder. No more Virtual Store! (i.e. AppData\...)

When I start up MetaEditor from within MT4, it also will not look in the AppData... path, but rather under the installation path, just like old MT4.

I've noticed that when I let it update my software, I'm pretty sure it changed my Shortcut "Target:" field back to just the terminal.exe path, but it lost my addition of the '/portable' option I had added. (Maybe I'm wrong because I might have got confused; I just added back the option, and with the next update I will prove whether it gets dropped or not).


I can not just go to the MT4 installation and click on the terminal.exe file to start it because it won't know about the '/portable' switch. Fortunately, I really never do. I always use my Shortcuts pinned in my Taskbar. (By the way, start up MT4, then right-click over the active icon, and you should see a choice like "Pin this program to taskbar"; select it, and THEN you can easily right-click a couple times again to access the Shortcut Properties).

I pretty much always start up the MetaEditor from within an MT4, and it seems to be inheriting the '/portable' switch. However, if it wasn't already running and I clicked on some .mq4 file to look at it, chances are it's not going to assume the '/portable' switch and it may get me back into the AppData location (but if so, I'll just quit it and restart it from within MT4, or perhaps by adding the '/portable' switch to it as well.

I'm not really familiar with such switches. Am I doing it correctly? Is there a different way to do it, such as somehow associating it with the actual terminal.exe properties, or some file parallel to it, or ??? Or is editing the Shortcut as I did the way to go? Is there some way to start up any .exe with this kind of switch? Maybe the cmd window, and using full paths to the terminal.exe or metaeditor.exe files to be sure to get the right one? Any tips are appreciated.


P.S. (Edit) When using the '/portable' switch, the menu command File -> Open Data Folder will easily prove that it's no longer using AppData but is instead using the files from the installation folder.
  • #77
  • Feb 6, 2014 1:02am Feb 6, 2014 1:02am
Quoting rockit
{quote} Simple: When promted, deny the update! This requires that you are logged on as a user with restricted rights, which should be the default anyway.
I remember the last 2 times the platform updated though i'm not logged as Administrator, I was not prompted for permission, I turned on the computer, clicked on the Icon and the update started automatically.
Let it turn and find your entry.
  • #78
  • Feb 6, 2014 1:09am Feb 6, 2014 1:09am
Quoting MKFXTrader
{quote} Kiads, Where may I find this folder? I looked everywhere on my broker's mt4 folder and I can't find(webinstall)? Where exactly is it located within the mt4 folders? You are certain that doing this will disable automatic update and not mess up anything within mt4? Thank you for your advice.
Hi My Friend, is not on your broker mt4 folder, this is from MetaQuotes, the most easy way, type 'MetaQuotes' in your explorer search box to search your drive C:

After you find it, you can check the content of WebInstall folder, you will understand that actually the update came from there, you will find Terminal.exe and MetaEditor.exe there.. and some files to check your entire MT4 instances in your computer, and replace the Terminal and MetaEditor file if not match with that 2 files in this folder, later if there is another update, then MetaQuotes only update the files in this folder, so after that, even if you disconnected from the internet, and you click your old MT4 version, (if you don't set UAC permission to ask you), you will automatically get 'forced' update right from your own computer.. lol.

Hope it help and best regard.
MTH
  • #79
  • Feb 6, 2014 1:13am Feb 6, 2014 1:13am
Quoting Kiads
{quote} Hi My Friend, at my post (post 45), do the step 1,2, and 3 will disable auto upgrading.. hope it help and best regard.
Thanks Kiads,
I searched but i just upgraded my computer to Windows 7 professional OS and with the previous OS I could see Program Data and Program Files separate but this OS has only Program Files. Gone thru all the folders and sub folders and no Webinstall folder.

Maybe there's a way round this?
Let it turn and find your entry.
  • #80
  • Feb 6, 2014 1:34am Feb 6, 2014 1:34am
Quoting Intrepidpips
{quote} Thanks Kiads, I searched but i just upgraded my computer to Windows 7 professional OS and with the previous OS I could see Program Data and Program Files separate but this OS has only Program Files. Gone thru all the folders and sub folders and no Webinstall folder. Maybe there's a way round this?
I also use Windows 7 but Home Edition, and there still ProgramData folder in my root C: drive
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