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- #65,042
- Edited 7:29pm Feb 4, 2014 6:53pm | Edited 7:29pm
- Joined Mar 2008 | Status: PVSRA with Traderathome | 23,552 Posts
dear TAH, i try to download the last updated mt4 and then installed the sonicr template, i found that the ffcal indi and the control panel didn't compatible anymore. please help, thank you.
{quote} Yes, I am having the same problem..ever since this message came up on my MT4 they've not been loading properly. {image} I was wondering if I had been the only one to have had this occurrence.. Edit1: Upon downloading a different brokers MT4 (FXCM) I tried to install the indicators by pasting them in the indicators folder and when I try to open them through Indicators --> Custom etc they're not visibleEdit2: Check this out..looks like the upgrade wasn't just my broker (VantageFX) after all.. http://www.metaquotes.net/en/metatrader4/news/4100...
If you would please call your broker and ask them how to fix the problem, and post their instructions here, it would be of immense help to all, because I foresee every broker mandating this update sooner or later. So, please, call them right away and document the fix for us.
To all Sonicers,
If any of you have experienced this new MT4 upgrade problem with the installation and function of our indicators, and have fixed it, please also post what you did to fix the problem. This is URGENT, because all brokers are likely to soon mandate this problem causing upgrade.
I have not had the problem causing upgrade imposed on me yet. I plan to forestall any further upgrading for as long as I can, and at least until we get the "FIX" for this problem posted here on the thread. Good luck to all of us because MetaQuotes has their own intentions and profit driven reasons for forcing this upgrade. From these posts there are obviously problems with the upgrade. So it seems that MetaQuotes is either lying about there not being problems with it, or MetaQuotes is incompetent to provide proper a proper transition to this new platform from which they intend to make more money.
The irony is that they intend to make money from the incorporated "store" of indicators and EAs, none of which we will ever use! But, for the sake of their greed to make future profits off of others, we have to put up with this.
Thank You,
-tah
- #65,043
- Feb 4, 2014 7:04pm Feb 4, 2014 7:04pm
- Joined Nov 2013 | Status: Trading Chaos | 1,133 Posts
{quote} {quote} SaiLyfee, If you would please call your broker and ask them how to fix the problem, and post their instructions here, it would be of immense help to all, because I foresee every broker mandating this update sooner or later. So, please, call them right away and document the fix for us. Thank You,
The indicators were pasted into the indicators folder and aren't visible when going to select to input them manually. As well as this when going to the file template to load into the chart it doesn't load properly at all:
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For sure, I would really like to know if this is affecting others as well, it does seem from the Metaquotes website that it is:
"The major update of MetaTrader 4 platform will be officially released in less than a week (on February 3). The changes have mostly affected MQL4 language of trading strategies, which has been seriously expanded, and its functionality has been brought closer to that of MQL5. However, there is no need to worry about the operability of the previously developed trading robots and indicators, as the runtime environment copy of the previous MQL4 version is used to maintain compatibility. Thus, old EX4 files work correctly and exactly the same way as before."
From this above, is it possible that what serikaya said about the indicators not being compatible anymore be apart of the problem?
Edit: I found this on the "Trading Made Simple Thread" under the most recent pages of posts:
Seems I'm not the only one after all
- #65,044
- Feb 4, 2014 7:14pm Feb 4, 2014 7:14pm
- Joined Apr 2013 | Status: Trader | 1,926 Posts
{quote} Hy Sir, Let me say thanks to all your effort in this thread. Much apreciated. I'm just placing my chart, in agreement with your short move. But, I'm still holding my trigger to short. Last candle was IMHO a NO DEMAND candle. i will short only when the low of that particular candle is broken. PS: allmost all TF are screaming for Short... Weakness everywhere. Regards. {image}
Here is my entry and why.
A - Price made na effort to rise. (MM usually sell on this kind of candles).
B - Is a down candle. Prove that were some selling on the previous candle.
And price went up with decreasing volume.
Price made a stopping volume and went up.
Compare the volume at the same level after London closure.
This is my first Scout.
Ps: Price might test resistance at 1.1089 before go down... and i might be wrong....
If you don't know how to earn money, don't loose it.
Hello Sonicers,
First of all thank prof TAH, Sonic, cfdtaleong, Jrissa and everyone else who are making this amazing Forex learning experience possible. Thanks for the number of hours devoted to share your knowledge to fellow traders and newcomers.
I discovered the thread about 5 days ago and now I am impressed and catched with the huge amount and valuable information that is spread over more than 3200 pages of this thread, from famous 1st post
to last one!
SaiLyfee, have you tried to take a look at the Journal tab in MT4?
Maybe you can found clue to the problem there.
To keep things running well no error should appear when loading the 6 indicators, as seen here:
Hope this helps.
Cheers!
First of all thank prof TAH, Sonic, cfdtaleong, Jrissa and everyone else who are making this amazing Forex learning experience possible. Thanks for the number of hours devoted to share your knowledge to fellow traders and newcomers.
I discovered the thread about 5 days ago and now I am impressed and catched with the huge amount and valuable information that is spread over more than 3200 pages of this thread, from famous 1st post
to last one!SaiLyfee, have you tried to take a look at the Journal tab in MT4?
Maybe you can found clue to the problem there.
To keep things running well no error should appear when loading the 6 indicators, as seen here:
Hope this helps.
Cheers!
- #65,046
- Edited 7:50pm Feb 4, 2014 7:37pm | Edited 7:50pm
- Joined Mar 2008 | Status: PVSRA with Traderathome | 23,552 Posts
{quote} Sure I'll ask Vantage if they know how to get around this but I noticed also when trying to load them in FXCM MT4 I unfortunately had problems as well. The indicators were pasted into the indicators folder and aren't visible when going to select to input them manually. As well as this when going to the file template to load into the chart it doesn't load properly at all: {image} For sure, I would really like to know if this is affecting others as well, it does seem from the Metaquotes website that it is: "The major update of MetaTrader 4...
This is URGENT. Don't waste time scrounging thru FF for more information.
Just call your broker and get the instruction steps to properly install our indicators and templates into this new upgrade so they will work like they should, like MetaQuotes has promised they will. I am hopeful MetaQuotes has indeed created an upgrade that will cause no problem......ONCE WE KNOW WHERE TO INSTALL THE INDICATORS AND THE TEMPLATES WE USE!
My guess from reading so far is that MetaQuotes has added a new file or files that is not even in the C:\ Program Files where the MetaQuotes MT4 installation resides. These other files are in C:\ Documents and Settings....., and that is probably where we need to look to install our indys and templates.
ASK THE BROKER!!!!!! LET'S STOP FARTING AROUND WITH THIS! THE BROKER TECH DEPARTMENT SHOULD BE ABLE TO QUICKLY EXPLAIN HOW TO FIX THIS!
So, CALL YOUR BROKER AND GET THE INSTRUCTIONS TO DO THIS PROPERLY WHEN USING THE NEW UPGRADED MT4! And then post the instructions here, ok?
-tah
- #65,047
- Feb 4, 2014 7:40pm Feb 4, 2014 7:40pm
- Joined Apr 2013 | Status: Trader | 1,926 Posts
UC
Short Scout nº2 added.
Short Scout nº2 added.
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- #65,050
- Edited 9:43pm Feb 4, 2014 8:43pm | Edited 9:43pm
- Joined Mar 2008 | Status: PVSRA with Traderathome | 23,552 Posts
- #65,051
- Feb 4, 2014 9:51pm Feb 4, 2014 9:51pm
- Joined Mar 2008 | Status: PVSRA with Traderathome | 23,552 Posts
- #65,053
- Edited 10:28pm Feb 4, 2014 10:01pm | Edited 10:28pm
- Joined Mar 2008 | Status: PVSRA with Traderathome | 23,552 Posts
EU Comment: M15 Asian session looks like steady shorting down from the 1/4 Level, then suddenly the MMs hiked the price back above the 1/4 Level and resumed shorting. This, together with the big hike above the 1/2 Level Friday followed by the shorting of the price down to below the lower whole number, presents a PVSRA picture of bears. Really, the price hasn't left the room yet, and the MMs are shorting the hell out of it above the whole number again before they open the door.That door might open with the NFP release this week.
My take,
-tah {image}
EU ranging within 50-60 pips in last 4 trading sessions. Looks like MMs accumulating shorts. TAH: how do you analyze this? {image}
I have a difficult time deciding how long to keep this trade; RDL, RWL, longer? I am considering closing the lowest and first entered group of EPs if the MMs get the price below the whole number again before NFP. That way, just in case they ram the price upwards, I can add back higher. But, the MMs seem to be content to keep the price above the whole number, so I might not get that opportunity.
- #65,054
- Edited 10:57pm Feb 4, 2014 10:36pm | Edited 10:57pm
- Joined Nov 2013 | Status: Trading Chaos | 1,133 Posts
TAH, my progress as follows.
I am trying to get it to work on FXCM as I intend on moving to this broker soon.
As you can see, it didn't quite work:
Also, after having been about a minute or two, the control panel oddly decided to display, yet there is still no sign of it being loaded in the indicators list window:
I did contact Vantage though as well to see if I could resolve the issue with them and they said this:
Please see below a report on the recent build updates from Metaquotes there is a section that will allow you to de-bug your system and hopefully it will fix the problem.
This was the report:
I loaded up the sonic r templates and the play button option to begin debugging was greyed out not allowing me to click it
"MQL4 language for programming trading strategies has been substantially revised and its functionality has been brought closer to that of MQL5. Classes and structures have been added and the language syntax has been extended up to С++ level allowing developers to implement all the advantages of object-oriented programming. It means that trading robots and technical indicators can be created much easier and faster now, while Expert Advisor developers have gained new opportunities in a single MetaEditor development environment - debugging, profiling, code completion, etc. Find out more details on the new features in a separate section of MetaEditor article on MQL5."
From where I have underlined is it possible that the update in doing so has made some of the indicators we use outdated when used in the new version? I have no experience in coding what so ever so wouldn't have a clue.
I am trying to get it to work on FXCM as I intend on moving to this broker soon.
As you can see, it didn't quite work:
Also, after having been about a minute or two, the control panel oddly decided to display, yet there is still no sign of it being loaded in the indicators list window:
I did contact Vantage though as well to see if I could resolve the issue with them and they said this:
Please see below a report on the recent build updates from Metaquotes there is a section that will allow you to de-bug your system and hopefully it will fix the problem.
This was the report:
I loaded up the sonic r templates and the play button option to begin debugging was greyed out not allowing me to click it
"MQL4 language for programming trading strategies has been substantially revised and its functionality has been brought closer to that of MQL5. Classes and structures have been added and the language syntax has been extended up to С++ level allowing developers to implement all the advantages of object-oriented programming. It means that trading robots and technical indicators can be created much easier and faster now, while Expert Advisor developers have gained new opportunities in a single MetaEditor development environment - debugging, profiling, code completion, etc. Find out more details on the new features in a separate section of MetaEditor article on MQL5."
From where I have underlined is it possible that the update in doing so has made some of the indicators we use outdated when used in the new version? I have no experience in coding what so ever so wouldn't have a clue.
- #65,056
- Edited 11:18pm Feb 4, 2014 10:57pm | Edited 11:18pm
- Joined Mar 2008 | Status: PVSRA with Traderathome | 23,552 Posts
TAH, my progress as follows. I am trying to get it to work on FXCM as I intend on moving to this broker soon. As you can see, it didn't quite work: {image} Also, after having been about a minute or two, the control panel oddly decided to display, yet there is still no sign of it being loaded in the indicators list window: {image} I did contact Vantage though as well to see if I could resolve the issue with them and they said this: Please see below a report on the recent build updates from Metaquotes there is a section that will allow you to de-bug...
I think you are almost there.
1. Right click on your chart and select "Properties".
2. On the "Colors" tab, change "Line graph" to "None". On the "Common" tab check "Chart on foreground", select "Line chart". These changes should enable the PVA Candles to show.
3. On the "Common" tab un-check "Show OHLC". This should remove the line of data that is showing up on top of our Control Panel.
Try this and see if your template is made well again. If so, re-save it. Post what results you get.
Oh, I just noticed that you might be indicating that features of the Control Panel are not functioning, and that the Control Panel is not showing up in the chart list of indicators. This could still be a problem needing some work, but if the complex Clock code/DLL imports works, I do not understand why any of the much more simple features would not also be working. They should be. And the Control Panel should be in the list of indicators, FFCal too. If we can determine why they are not, maybe we can resolve these issues. In your next post, please clarify what is working normally and what is not.
I have looked over the information MetaQuotes put out regarding some reasons for failures and what to do. Basically, it is all bullshit excuses skirting the fact that they never created a program to automatically convert MQL4 coding to what it should be to work ok. They want users to figure out how to do that, to figure out why something isn't working and to learn how to code per new coding rules to make it work. It is all bullshit. I have no intention of going down that road. So, if anyone has a friend that knows how to do this crap, we may need that friend to donate the required help.
If worse comes to worse, I will go back to the three ema lines, standard volume and an alarm clock on my desk!
Thanks,
-tah
- #65,057
- Edited 11:43pm Feb 4, 2014 11:08pm | Edited 11:43pm
- | Joined Nov 2013 | Status: Trader | 5 Posts
" From where I have underlined is it possible that the update in doing so has made some of the indicators we use outdated when used in the new version? I have no experience in coding what so ever so wouldn't have a clue.
I have exactly the same problem with one of the brokers that I use (ICmarkets), on the other broker (Admiral Markets) indicators are working properly.
Indeed, it seems a problem related to the compilation of two indicators:
I haved tried to compile those two but have a lot of errors, I also have no experience with coding, but maybe the MT4 new version need only minor changes to these two mq4 files to work, I will keep trying and update here.
Cheers!
- #65,058
- Feb 4, 2014 11:08pm Feb 4, 2014 11:08pm
EU
Any movement upside is a retracement, this pair is bearish.
H1: Yellow circle is a good opportunity to reentry short and then we have high green volume (yellow box), that is a Cause but we haven't seen any Effect yet.
D1: Sooner or later the price will hit 1.341x or go lower to 1.33xx
Any movement upside is a retracement, this pair is bearish.
H1: Yellow circle is a good opportunity to reentry short and then we have high green volume (yellow box), that is a Cause but we haven't seen any Effect yet.
D1: Sooner or later the price will hit 1.341x or go lower to 1.33xx
- #65,059
- Feb 4, 2014 11:12pm Feb 4, 2014 11:12pm
- Joined Nov 2013 | Status: Trading Chaos | 1,133 Posts
- #65,060
- Feb 4, 2014 11:21pm Feb 4, 2014 11:21pm
- Joined Nov 2013 | Status: Trading Chaos | 1,133 Posts
{quote}I have looked over the information MetaQuotes put out regarding some reasons for failures and what to do. Basically, it is all bullshit excuses skirting the fact that they never created a program to automatically convert MQL4 coding to what it should be to work ok. They want users to figure out how to do that, to figure out why something isn't working and to learn how to code per new coding rules to make it work. It is all bullshit. I have no intention of going down that road. So, if anyone has a friend that knows how to do this crap, we...
Seriously..........this is what I am talking about.
Come on MT4 get your act together.