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  • #21
  • Feb 4, 2014 6:07am Feb 4, 2014 6:07am
Quoting MKFXTrader
{quote} Thanks Hanover. I would prefer not to update if prompted at this time, until all the bugs and questions regarding indis are satisfied. I'll wait for your post. Would be interested in knowing if we can decline the upgrade or turn it off altogether. Thanks again.

If you do not run a windows account with administrative rights (which you should not anyway, with UAC set to ask for permission to make changes to your computer), mt4 will need to ask for administrative rights in order to put the update in effect. You can decline it. It will do so upon every start henceforth, but, again, you can decline it.
Normally build 509 should not download the update on its own anyway. For that you need either download an updated version off your broker or connect to MetaQuote's update server yourself .
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  • #22
  • Feb 4, 2014 6:18am Feb 4, 2014 6:18am
  •  MPP
  • Joined Jun 2007 | Status: Be yourself, everyone else is taken | 2,734 Posts
Quoting hanover
{quote} No disrespect to your account manager, but I assume that he's not a programmer, and he's simply forwarding sales info that MQ have told him. From what he's saying, it sounds like underscores are no longer valid in variable names. (And in any case, decompiling code involves violation of copyright). MQ state that EX4 files compiled on earlier builds will run 'as is' on build 600. That is apparently their intention; but it remains to be seen how bug-free the implementation is, especially with more complex code. However, what is certain...
Very true - he's is correct, but like you say, but has failed to provide the full answer.

i don't think it's so much the underscores as i've never had any issue with my indi's and they have underscores, but it seems it's more to do with the number of them and the typical style of the way they reference things - decompilers use a preset method of reference and can't see the real info in the code. from what i understand, but this is now going off topic.

anyone know anything about ninja trader? might be time to check out the competition.
  • #23
  • Edited 6:37am Feb 4, 2014 6:22am | Edited 6:37am
Quoting hanover
I exited and restarted Axi Trader's MT4 today, and presto, build 600 automatically appeared, without any prompting. Just for fun, I compiled one of my EAs (which has been running happily on build 509 for about 5 months now) and got 102 fatal errors and 132 warning errors. Bravo MetaQuotes!

I suspect it will be possible to to a batch search and replace to fix up the majority of warnings and errors (eg variables like 'char' , 'new' etc).
(skipping replacements within literal strings!) and dealing with externs etc. Then I think most of the warnings will be unused variables and things like that.

If you colud post the nature of the majority your warnings and errors , I'm sure it would be possible for "someone" to knock up a quick tool to prepare the code for MQL4.5 so the errors and warnings are vastly reduced to the real ones.

After a while you'll even appreciate the remaining errors and warnings as I often find they do highlight real issues.

Migrating existing code to the new platform will be less work than people think, once we first understand where all the incompatibilities are,
and have some kind of tool (as suggested above) to automate the initial grunt work...
  • #24
  • Feb 4, 2014 8:47am Feb 4, 2014 8:47am
I have a serious problem and question for you. The templates directory (to start with) is not where it used to be. Because I am using 2 computers for my trading and in order to avoid synchronization issues I am using dropbox to install my mt4 platform. Whenever I run on my portable the platform, the dropbox is updated and when I open the desktop after few seconds my dropbox is again updated with the new version (mainly trendlines). The only drawback is that I cannot have both my laptop and desktop platforms running because duplicate files are created that have to be deleted. From what I read the template is now stored on my computer (\users\appdata) and not inside the dropbox as it used to be. Any ideas about solving the problem?
  • #25
  • Feb 4, 2014 9:39am Feb 4, 2014 9:39am
Quoting MPP
{quote} Very true - he's is correct, but like you say, but has failed to provide the full answer. i don't think it's so much the underscores as i've never had any issue with my indi's and they have underscores, but it seems it's more to do with the number of them and the typical style of the way they reference things - decompilers use a preset method of reference and can't see the real info in the code. from what i understand, but this is now going off topic. anyone know anything about ninja trader? might be time to check out the competition.
Ninjatrader is horrible and with so many little bugs its too much hassle
plus data costs and no where near as many indicators

Tradestation
Protrader3
ActTrader
Seer

are possibility's you may want to investigate further (imho)
  • #26
  • Feb 4, 2014 10:05am Feb 4, 2014 10:05am
I seem to have a major hassle on my hands with this new Build 600.

Yesterday I downloaded and installed a fresh MT4 installation on my desktop for a new live account I opened. I added in my indicators and they all worked normally. Then I downloaded and installed a fresh MT4 installation for this new account onto my VPS and attempted to add my indicators. I noticed the location of the experts and indicators folders were all changed around. I added my indicators as best as I could and noticed they did not work on this new platform!

I went back and forth between the desktop platform and VPS platform until I finally noticed that the desktop platform was Build 509 and the VPS platform was Build 600. The date of Build 600 was the same day I was doing this installation! So it appears that within the few minute time-span of installing the fresh platform onto my desktop and then installing another on my VPS, Build 600 got released!

From what I have read so far, it sounds as though my indicators would have worked if I had them in a Build 509 platform and then upgraded that platform to Build 600. But I didn't do that. I downloaded a fresh Build 600 and tried to add in my new indicators and they just don't work.

Does anybody have a clue as to what to do about this? Thanks in advance!
BF
  • #27
  • Feb 4, 2014 11:56am Feb 4, 2014 11:56am
Quoting Ben Franklin
I seem to have a major hassle on my hands with this new Build 600. Yesterday I downloaded and installed a fresh MT4 installation on my desktop for a new live account I opened. I added in my indicators and they all worked normally. Then I downloaded and installed a fresh MT4 installation for this new account onto my VPS and attempted to add my indicators. I noticed the location of the experts and indicators folders were all changed around. I added my indicators as best as I could and noticed they did not work on this new platform! I went back and...
Hi My Friend,

Maybe you can do this if only you don't try it before.
First for back up purpose, create Zip or Rar file of your entirely MT4 build 509 platform folder and keep it in safe place (flash disk / external hard disk etc).

 

  1. Copy all of your Indicators EX4 file from your MT4 build 509 indicator folder
  2. Go to your MT4 build 600 terminal, and go to menu File / Open data folder
  3. Search for MQ4 /Indicators folder open it and paste all of your indicators EX4 files there.
  4. Re-Start your MT4 build 600 terminal.


Hope it help and best regard.

  • #28
  • Feb 4, 2014 1:15pm Feb 4, 2014 1:15pm
None of my indicators worked! Now, I have a mess trying to go back to the previous version. F!
  • #29
  • Feb 4, 2014 1:21pm Feb 4, 2014 1:21pm
Quoting Kiads
{quote} Hi My Friend, Maybe you can do this if only you don't try it before. First for back up purpose, create Zip or Rar file of your entirely MT4 build 509 platform folder and keep it in safe place (flash disk / external hard disk etc). Copy all of your Indicators EX4 file from your MT4 build 509 indicator folder Go to your MT4 build 600 terminal, and go to menu File / Open data folder Search for MQ4 /Indicators folder open it and paste all of your indicators EX4 files there. Re-Start your MT4 build 600 terminal. Hope it help and best regard.
Thank you for your kind and helpful answer. I had already tried several times to paste the indicators into the files you described and that did not work. However, your idea of zipping up my extant Build 509 platform worked. As I said in my original post, I had the Build 509 up and running on my new account on my desktop, but on my VPS I wound up with Build 600. In the end, I simply deleted the Build 600 from my VPS, then I zipped up the folder containing the operational Build 509 from my desktop and transferred that to my VPS. I then opened up the platform and I now have an operational Build 509 working on my VPS in addition to my desktop. So thanks again!
BF
  • #30
  • Feb 4, 2014 1:26pm Feb 4, 2014 1:26pm
Anyone have a solution to this upgrade of MT4? My platform froze up several times this morning so I re-installed and now cannot load my indicators on the new install. Any suggestions will help. Thank you
  • #31
  • Feb 4, 2014 1:41pm Feb 4, 2014 1:41pm
Quoting Cmr71
Anyone have a solution to this upgrade of MT4? My platform froze up several times this morning so I re-installed and now cannot load my indicators on the new install. Any suggestions will help. Thank you
put your indicators in C:\Program Files\metatrader\MQL4\Indicators folder (just the *.ex4 files compiled with build 509)
  • #32
  • Feb 4, 2014 1:57pm Feb 4, 2014 1:57pm
Quoting 200km
{quote} put your indicators in C:\Program Files\metatrader\MQL4\Indicators folder (just the *.ex4 files compiled with build 509)
Thanks. Most of them are working now a lot are grey. Thank you
  • #33
  • Feb 4, 2014 2:01pm Feb 4, 2014 2:01pm
Quoting 200km
{quote} put your indicators in C:\Program Files\metatrader\MQL4\Indicators folder (just the *.ex4 files compiled with build 509)
The new MT4 has introduced the concept of "Data folder".
The Data folder is the folder where are present the MT4 user specific data.
In previous versions (509) the Data folder was ever the same as the main MT4 installation path.
Now the place where are present these directories : config, history, logs, MQL4, profiles, templates, tester can be different respect to the main MT4 installation folder.
The only way to be sure of where is the correct "Data folder" location is to read the "Journal" log of MT4.
The second line from start reports the used Data folder.
I've seen a lot of installs of the new version 600.
On Windows 7 installs the Data folder is the same as the Terminal Folder, but on Windows Server 2003 the Data folder is like this one example C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Application Data\MetaQuotes\Terminal\057E3F01303FF930FA8535A4A8D7979C
Obviously if a user try to copy an indicator in the wrong path, after MT4 launch he will never find the added indi, because has been copied in the wrong (not used BUT EXISTING) directory.
  • #34
  • Feb 4, 2014 2:04pm Feb 4, 2014 2:04pm
My apologies for my English, it is ESL. The specifications given by MetaQuotes, probabily was written by the programmers and not actual traders. This is the way I finally got it working. If you know a shortcut to this use it.

On Windows 8.1 I used the search function for terminal. I waited until the one belongs to metaquotes show up, it has the word roaming in it. I click it, and in the next menu I opened the second folder and I look for The MQL4 then indicators and pasted all my 509 version indicators there and I did the same with the third folder BB....... and paste the indicators there too. It works for me.

Search for terminal and click to open
2nd and 3rd folder look for mql4, indicators, paste

Hoping this help!
  • #35
  • Feb 4, 2014 2:26pm Feb 4, 2014 2:26pm
Quoting 200km
{quote} put your indicators in C:\Program Files\metatrader\MQL4\Indicators folder (just the *.ex4 files compiled with build 509)

Never do this on Windows 7 or 8. Put in My Documents where it belongs.
  • #36
  • Feb 4, 2014 2:26pm Feb 4, 2014 2:26pm
Quoting h4xforum
This is the way I finally got it working. If you know a shortcut to this use it.
Oh well... I would do this (didn't they make it easy for you?): In your terminal go to File->Open Data Folder

There, you go to MQL4 Folder; put your experts (.ex4) under \Experts; indicators under \Indicators and scripts under \Scripts ...

However, IF you prefer your data be within your installation folder (and under \MQL4; make sure you have full access rights to the installation folder), start your terminal with the /portable switch.

But this has all been explained (and written down) by MetaQuotes already long time ago. IF people would read, they would perhaps know; but they do not, so, they do not.
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  • #37
  • Feb 4, 2014 2:39pm Feb 4, 2014 2:39pm
I agree with Rockit. The /portable switch is the solution to my problem. The compiled indicators and EAs will work fine (well not all of them) but if you try to recompile they will not work any more.
  • #38
  • Feb 4, 2014 2:40pm Feb 4, 2014 2:40pm
Quoting CodeMeister
{quote} Never do this on Windows 7 or 8. Put in My Documents where it belongs.
why not ? i have windows 7 and my indicators, experts and scripts are working fine.
  • #39
  • Feb 4, 2014 3:10pm Feb 4, 2014 3:10pm
Quoting rockit
{quote} Oh well... I would do this (didn't they make it easy for you?): In your terminal go to File->Open Data Folder There, you go to MQL4 Folder; put your experts (.ex4) under \Experts; indicators under \Indicators and scripts under \Scripts ... However, IF you prefer your data be within your installation folder (and under \MQL4; make sure you have full access rights to the installation folder), start your terminal with the /portable switch. But this has all been explained (and written down) by MetaQuotes already long time ago. IF people would...
Thank you this worked perfect.
  • #40
  • Feb 4, 2014 3:47pm Feb 4, 2014 3:47pm
Watch out everybody using GMX to send MT4 e-mail alerts. This is NOT working in build 600
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