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  • Jan 28, 2014 11:03am Jan 28, 2014 11:03am
  •  spyderman
  • Joined Nov 2010 | Status: Snaggin' Some Pips | 2,138 Posts
Okay all. Here's a M5 trade I took after the NYO. Exits are killing me. I've been shaken out of so many, I tried to ride this out on the 15M but price reversed on me. Ended up with a +15 but was sure hoping for more.

Lets here your thoughts pros...

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  • Jan 28, 2014 1:36pm Jan 28, 2014 1:36pm
  •  Martyfish
  • Joined Sep 2012 | Status: Beam me up, Scotty | 1,531 Posts
Quoting asithaya
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I have seen somewhere RJ or marty had said that he don't want to see candles for the entry. I also have noted that for the entry, candles force us not to take good trades. But i cant say that surely. Do you agree with that? but in most cases I use the HA candle chart to determine the trend.
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Asithaya,

The Genesis template uses HA candles, so all charts posted must be with HA candles.

What you use on your chart is a personal issue.

Yes HA candles indicate trend, but so do my MAs. So by using MAs I dont need HA candles.

But I would recommend using HA candles, for most Genesis traders
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  • Jan 28, 2014 2:07pm Jan 28, 2014 2:07pm
  •  asithaya
  • | Joined Sep 2013 | Status: Member | 103 Posts
Thank you Marty for the explanation
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  • Edited at 2:39pm Jan 28, 2014 2:13pm | Edited at 2:39pm
  •  ExcessFX
  • Joined Aug 2013 | Status: Member | 138 Posts
Quoting spyderman
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Okay all. Here's a M5 trade I took after the NYO. Exits are killing me. I've been shaken out of so many, I tried to ride this out on the 15M but price reversed on me. Ended up with a +15 but was sure hoping for more. Lets here your thoughts pros... {image} {image}
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Hi Spyderman

Would it be worth waiting for the M15 Matrix to discolour? i have marked all of the exits on your chart.

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  • Jan 28, 2014 3:39pm Jan 28, 2014 3:39pm
  •  spyderman
  • Joined Nov 2010 | Status: Snaggin' Some Pips | 2,138 Posts
Quoting ExcessFX
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{quote} Hi Spyderman Would it be worth waiting for the M15 Matrix to discolour? i have marked all of the exits on your chart. XS {image}
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Hey xs,

Yeah I've thought of that. If I'd have stayed pat and not moved my stop up I could have ridden it out to 50 pips. Exit would have been at the blue line.
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  • Jan 28, 2014 4:03pm Jan 28, 2014 4:03pm
  •  ExcessFX
  • Joined Aug 2013 | Status: Member | 138 Posts
Quoting spyderman
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{quote} Hey xs, Yeah I've thought of that. If I'd have stayed pat and not moved my stop up I could have ridden it out to 50 pips. Exit would have been at the blue line. {image}
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Its a tough call, Ive spent a bit of time looking into this M15 matrix exit method,
In a ranging market it can cost you some pips, otherwise it's a fairly good method so long as the entry is a good one.
IMHO the M15 stoch at your time of entry was not the best looking upward "hook" i've seen.
Looking at RJs latest posts, the M15 has a really nice hook happening. OB/OS to the 50 line in a quite short time.

Lately i've been exiting on M5 matrix discolouration, but plan to explore the M15 more.

XS
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  • Jan 28, 2014 5:54pm Jan 28, 2014 5:54pm
  •  realjumper
  • Joined Feb 2009 | Status: Hasta la victoria siempre - El Che | 19,542 Posts
Quoting spyderman
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Okay all. Here's a M5 trade I took after the NYO. Exits are killing me. I've been shaken out of so many, I tried to ride this out on the 15M but price reversed on me. Ended up with a +15 but was sure hoping for more. Lets here your thoughts pros... {image} {image}
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From market open to where you entered your Buy trade, the market had sold off to the tune of 145 pips....making your trade counter to the trend of the day. As such, with any CT trade, you must expect modest profits.
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  • Edited at 2:58am Jan 29, 2014 2:36am | Edited at 2:58am
  •  xremmy
  • | Joined Jul 2007 | Status: Member | 150 Posts
Morning Everyone

First trade of the day
EA Long @ 1.5530 , first target is Daily pivot,

Obstacles to clear is daily open @ 1.5540

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Edit: 1st half off @ 1.5560, +30, 2nd Half moved to BE + 1.
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  • Jan 29, 2014 2:47am Jan 29, 2014 2:47am
  •  eltax100
  • | Joined Mar 2009 | Status: Member | 229 Posts
My first trade of the day now at BE+1
lost a load a demo money lately ( over trading not taking the clearest of signals )

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  • Jan 29, 2014 3:24am Jan 29, 2014 3:24am
  •  xremmy
  • | Joined Jul 2007 | Status: Member | 150 Posts
Quoting eltax100
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My first trade of the day now at BE+1 lost a load a demo money lately ( over trading not taking the clearest of signals )
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Nice Trade Eltax.

i also had a bite of it, took profit at low of the day for +17.
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  • Jan 29, 2014 4:17am Jan 29, 2014 4:17am
  •  PipMonster1
  • Joined Feb 2011 | Status: Carpe diem | 630 Posts
Feeling like a huge noob that I took profits at DP on GA.........

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  • Jan 29, 2014 4:24am Jan 29, 2014 4:24am
  •  xremmy
  • | Joined Jul 2007 | Status: Member | 150 Posts
Hello Eltax100

Hope you are still in the AJ sell?

My Ea trade worked out well. Closed a large part of the 2nd leg for +103 at R1. Leaving a tiny part @ BE + 30.

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Done for the session, till New york.

Happy trading All.
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  • Jan 29, 2014 4:30am Jan 29, 2014 4:30am
  •  xremmy
  • | Joined Jul 2007 | Status: Member | 150 Posts
Quoting PipMonster1
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Feeling like a huge noob that I took profits at DP on GA......... PM1
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Sorry PM1

Happened to my AJ sell aswell.

That's why i usually try to split my trades.

Well, you win some big, and you win some small. Good trade as long as its not a loss.
Let your plan trade for you, not your emotion!!!
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  • Jan 29, 2014 4:47am Jan 29, 2014 4:47am
  •  asithaya
  • | Joined Sep 2013 | Status: Member | 103 Posts
If i trade against genesis rules , in most cases i ended up with a loss
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  • Jan 29, 2014 4:47am Jan 29, 2014 4:47am
  •  eltax100
  • | Joined Mar 2009 | Status: Member | 229 Posts
Quoting xremmy
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Hello Eltax100 Hope you are still in the AJ sell? My Ea trade worked out well. Closed a large part of the 2nd leg for +103 at R1. Leaving a tiny part @ BE + 30. {image} Done for the session, till New york. Happy trading All.
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Good trading xremmy,
I got 16+ so half days target I was happy with that and it allowed me to do a few other jobs away from the computer
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  • Jan 29, 2014 7:03am Jan 29, 2014 7:03am
  •  iwan73
  • | Joined Nov 2007 | Status: Member | 649 Posts
This is my trade i just closed on BRN 170.00. Maybe open was to late but i was waiting to break down through supp level from Tokyo session (white line). When break occured i entered and move my SL lower and lower step by step till BRN. Total +84pips.

Now i can breath deeply, now i can feel like real pro trader, like super hero because...errrrr...yyyyyy...it is shame for my trading skils but i need just only 80 pips more to close this week on 0. Smiling through the tears
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  • Jan 29, 2014 8:53am Jan 29, 2014 8:53am
  •  xremmy
  • | Joined Jul 2007 | Status: Member | 150 Posts
Wish every trading day was like today:
Let your plan trade for you, not your emotion!!!
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  • Jan 29, 2014 8:55am Jan 29, 2014 8:55am
  •  Martyfish
  • Joined Sep 2012 | Status: Beam me up, Scotty | 1,531 Posts
Quoting xremmy
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Wish every trading day was like today:
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Even 1 day a month is good enough
I am a fallible imperfect person; so I must be a fallible imperfect trader.
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  • Jan 29, 2014 1:33pm Jan 29, 2014 1:33pm
  •  Martyfish
  • Joined Sep 2012 | Status: Beam me up, Scotty | 1,531 Posts
FOMC decision in just under half an hour
I am a fallible imperfect person; so I must be a fallible imperfect trader.
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  •  Martyfish
  • Joined Sep 2012 | Status: Beam me up, Scotty | 1,531 Posts
Further $10mil taper
I am a fallible imperfect person; so I must be a fallible imperfect trader.
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