Sonic R. System

Lots of pin like bar, large engulfing bars. all seems exhausted bars around Including A/U..

Out of last 5 trading days. 1 was my lost days.. Here it is..

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Sonic

What is meant by not averaging your loser? Does this mean not to add more positions to a trade that is already at a loss such as scouts do?
Trying to figure out if its the same or not.

Sonic was just pissed that the trade went from bad to worse, so he refers to adding that Scout as averaging a "loser". He couldn't have known at the time how high the price might have gone against him, but he did (imho) have a SL to close to the entries considering the large daily average trading range. And look where the price finally went.

No, the trade was not a loser, but the MMs whipped him out first, before proceeding to make the trade a good one. This is one way the MMs accumulate the positions they want. If they see a lot of shorts that can be decapitated, they will simply move the price further and further the other way, stopping out shorts, until either there are no more shorts to stop out, or until too many other shorters flock in and make it too costly for the MMs to continue to try and hike the price. Finally, the price will reverse and move in the direction all the shorters, including the MMs, need to make profits.

Sometimes the MMs will intentionally move price so shorters jump in, but then they will do what happened to Sonic. You see, they suck traders in, and then stop them out. It is all a matter of liquidity. There would be no market if the Market Makers were not profitable, but in order for them to make profits (aside from commissions) they need to trade, too. They cannot take on positions unless somebody takes the other side. So, they will drive price to get folks into the market and then reverse price to stop them out. That is how the MMs create liquidity for their own position building. Then they will reverse price again and start making profits. Sure, sometimes fundamentals cause prices to move from one area to another, but most of the PA is just the MMs moving price to fill various buy and sell orders and some of the moves they will take on positions to trade before they make the moves. And, for them to take on such positions, they have to manipulate prices to get right side traders into the market, and then stop them out to get the liquidity they need to fill their own orders.

Really, though the market serves purpose to allow companies to convert currencies, etc., in reality, the market exists for the Market Makers. It is a business they run for profits. If they were not profitable, there would be no market. And their profits come from everyone else that falls victim to their price manipulations.

you still win if you don't put SL ?

TAH..thank you, I really appreciate it. Your explanations are always so very insightful for me, and everyone else I'm sure also. It makes perfect sense when it is put into perspective, and although perhaps a little bewildering at first, everything about the Market Makers shouldn't be a surprise to anyone who has even the most basic of understanding of what is really going on in the world and the way it is run. I begin to wonder though, how on earth do these people sleep at night knowing full well what they've done to somebody else, its criminal..I suppose though, every dog will have his day, sooner or later.

Hi TAH. Firstly, I'm extremely impress by your passion in teaching & explaining all your trades plus analysis to everyone publicly. The time & effort you've put in daily to educate others is tremendous. Big Salute & i personally very much appreciate this effort from a very experience trader like you

I'm new & learning this Sonic R. system & fx. I've been reading & following back & forth for the past weeks.

For this pair, in the MN Chart, my take is that it is showing the MM are bullish long term. I've circle in red the higher volume at the support areas & it looks like the MM has loaded in big volumes of Long. At the same time the price is now above the dragon & it's starting to angle upwards. I guess it will be good to watch out for a setup to enter Long in a lower timeframe for a nice reward to risk ratio?

Base on your D1 & H1 analysis of bearish, i could go as far as saying that on a MN chart it will pull back before heading further south.



-wovcav-

GOLD Weekly Analysis W5/2014

Bias: Long (Medium)

We have been bullish since the start of 2014 and reaped a nice profit from the upside move.
Due to the bad news from China and Eurozone, things are getting brighter for yellow metal once again.

From the technical view, we ends at the nice level of 1268 with last minute buying frenzy on Friday. See 'white' rectangle.
As the weekly bar suggests, I will continue to look for buying opportunity in the coming week.and looking forward to see it @ 1290 lvl..

Trade Safe


Sonic

When say "MM's are bull(bears)" we mean ALL MM's are bull(bears)? Isn't a possibility they are opposing each other?
And, Sonicdeejay, your trade no 3 shoudn't be a classic long ? What your thoughts were? Weren't PVSRA bull indications?
Have you abandoned classic Sonics and trading (almost) only (dangerous I believe for most) scouts?

Sonic

PVSRA Results for 1st Forty Three Weeks
The following are the results of my trading the Sonic R. System using PVSRA to determine if it is a bull or bear market, and then trading the price action I see.

Week ending 04/05
1289 pips gained, 7 trades totaling 19 parts (18 parts winners), averaging 67+ pips per each of all parts.

Week ending 04/12
1891 pips gained, 9 trades totaling 28 parts (all parts winners), averaging 67+ pips per each of all parts.

Week ending 04/19
2160 pips gained, 9 trades totaling 31 parts (29 parts winners), averaging 69+ pips per each of all parts.

Week ending 04/26
2640 pips gained, 6 trades totaling 34 parts (all parts winners), averaging 77+ pips per each of all parts.

Week ending 05/03
2530 pips gained, 6 trades totaling 24 parts (23 parts winners), averaging 105+ pips per each of all parts.

Week ending 05/10
3050 pips gained, 7 trades totaling 33 parts (all parts winners), averaging 92+ pips per each of all parts.

Week ending 05/17
1590 pips gained, 7 trades totaling 16 parts (all parts winners), averaging 99+ pips per each of all parts.

Week ending 05/24
3980 pips gained, 7 trades totaling 40 parts (33 parts winners), averaging 99+ pips per each of all parts.

Week ending 05/31
4003 pips gained, 5 trades totaling 37 parts (34 parts winners), averaging 108+ pips per each of all parts.

Week ending 06/07
9813 pips gained, 9 trades totaling 61 parts (53 parts winners), averaging 160+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 06/14
3900 pips gained, 2 trades totaling 15 parts (all parts winners), averaging 260+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 06/21
4620 pips gained, 3 trades totaling 33 parts (all parts winners), averaging 140+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 06/28
12,120 pips gained, 8 trades totaling 86 parts (82 parts winners), averaging 140+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 07/05
3,440 pips gained, 2 trades totaling 22 parts (18 parts winners), averaging 156+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 07/12
14,143 pips gained, 11 trades totaling 125 parts (115 parts winners), averaging 113+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 07/19
215 pips gained, 2 trades totaling 7 parts (all parts winners), averaging 30+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 07/26
1,170 pips gained, 2 trades totaling 25 parts (16 parts winners), averaging 46+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 08/02
10,850 pips gained, 8 trades totaling 102 parts (87 parts winners), averaging 106+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 08/09
7,784 pips gained, 4 trades totaling 72 parts (50 parts winners), averaging 108+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 08/16
(-250) pips gained, 1 trades totaling 3 parts (0 parts winners), averaging -83+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 08/23
6,750 pips gained, 3 trades totaling 49 parts (42 parts winners), averaging 137+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 08/30
6,785 pips gained, 8 trades totaling 68 parts (64 parts winners), averaging 99+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 09/06
178 pips gained, 2 trades totaling 6 parts (all parts winners), averaging 29+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 09/13
2,330 pips gained, 3 trades totaling 40 parts (34 parts winners), averaging 58+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 09/20
64,268 pips lost, 8 trades totaling 107 parts (6 parts winners), averaging -600 pips per each of all parts

Week ending 09/27
364 pips gained, 4 trades totaling 16 parts (8 parts winners), averaging 22+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 10/04
6,710 pips lost, 7 trades totaling 27 parts (11 parts winners), averaging -419 pips per each of all parts

Week ending 10/11
586 pips lost, 8 trades affected, 42 parts involved (34 parts gain, 7 parts lose), averaging -14 pips per each of all parts

Week ending 10/18
19,611 pips lost, 6 trades affected, 76 parts involved (14 parts gain, 62 parts lose), averaging -213 pips per each of all parts

Week ending 10/25
14,401 pips lost, 8 trades affected, 77 parts involved (0 parts gain, 77 parts lose), averaging -66 pips per each of all parts

Week ending 11/01
8,320 pips gained, 4 trades affected, 105 parts involved (101 parts gain, 4 parts lose), averaging +79 pips per each of all parts

Week ending 11/08
7,527 pips gained, 3 trades affected, 78 parts involved (78 parts gain, 0 parts lose), averaging 96+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 11/15
2,504 pips gained, 3 trades affected, 8 parts involved (5 parts gain, 3 parts lose), averaging 313+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 11/22
9,875 pips gained, 25 trades affected, 176 parts involved (157 parts gain, 19 parts lose), averaging 56+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 11/29
4,833 pips lost, 11 trades affected, 230 parts involved (138 parts gain, 95 parts lose), averaging -21 pips per each of all parts

Week ending 12/06
4,335 pips lost, 7 trades affected, 27 parts involved (17 parts gain, 10 parts lose), averaging -160 pips per each of all parts

Week ending 12/13
3,033 pips lost, 3 trades affected, 12 parts involved (7 parts gain, 5 parts lose), averaging -253 pips per each of all parts

Week ending 12/20
620 pips gained, 3 trades affected, 6 parts involved (4 parts gain, 2 parts lose), averaging +103 pips per each of all parts

Week ending 12/27
2,097 pips lost, 4 trades affected, 11 parts involved (5 parts gain, 6 parts lose), averaging -190 pips per each of all parts

Week ending 01/03
702 pips gained, 6 trades affected, 53 parts involved (38 parts gain, 15 parts lose), averaging -13 pips per each of all parts

Week ending 01/10
1,058 pips gained, 4 trades affected, 20 parts involved (19 parts gain, 1 parts lose), averaging 52+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 01/17
9,007 pips gained, 13 trades affected, 97 parts involved (78 parts gain, 19 parts lose), averaging 92+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 01/24
5,938 pips gained, 10 trades affected, 100 parts involved (77 parts gain, 23 parts lose), averaging 59+ pips per each of all parts

All of these trades, all of the trade parts thereof, were posted real-time right here on the Sonic R. System thread, using crystal clear easy to understand charts and explanations regarding PVSRA reasons for entries, whether Classic or Scout trades.

Summary Week Forty Three
32,552 pips banked.
19,669 pips current draw down (net loss of all open PVSRA trades).
12,883 pips net gain (pips banked plus net gain of all open PVSRA trades).
300 pips weekly average net gain (weekly average net gain if all open PVSRA trades instantly closed).

Summary Remarks
There is really nothing much to remark on. Some of the YEN pair (which I am heavily invested in) have started to turn. Heavily pumped pairs like EU and GU, and heavily dumped pairs like AU, have all yet to turn.


-tah

Sonic and THA and everyone else much thanks for your time, efforts and for sharing your systems,analysis and trading method. Im a newbie and im very keen on learning to fully understand the Sonic R system and how to apply it to my benefit. Keep the good work up guys.

SILVER WEEKLY ANALYSIS (W5/2014)

BIAS: LONG (MID)

This sleeping beauty in the range for quite some time already while his elder bro (Gold) is up for 4 weeks in a roll. It is time to younger bro to catch up. But Min you.. SLV is THE most manipulated mkt in the world, so expect the unexpected still..See you in orange rectangle.


Sonic

GBP/JPY Weekly Analysis W5/2014

Bias: SHort (Mid)

Last week was tricky as mentioned. It was a bull in early week only to get it sell down by last Thursday and Friday. This is the 'type' of move that kills inexperience newbie day traders.

Anyway, the week ends with nice looking bearish Bar.. and it is at nice support level (See White box)..

I am looking forward for it to go the orange boxes level..

But anything can happen still.. See you in the box



Sonic

Thoselosing trades Sonic had i would like to know what trigger him to take shorts?? I saw them as market still longs??

sonic it seems like gold wants to come down? what do you see?

Maybe or maybe not. Not that I trade Gold - Just my view of it

H.

There are many explanations of winning trades, we also learn a lot from mistakes. Many thanks Master.

EURNZD Short Trade Opened:

Entered short #1, added short #2.

I entered short #1, Scout, at the market open. The highest activity Friday was when price twice made highs above the half number (PVSRA). Therefore, to me, it is understandable the MMs would open the market with at least a slight gap up to encourage longs to the slaughter house. It will also be understandable to me if the MMs today further hike the price to decapitate other shorters. If they do sufficiently raise the price, I intend to seek a good opportunity to add to this short trade if I am at the computer.

Edit: I added short #2, Scout, as the MMs hiked the price above the 1/4SR.

Withdrawal $1,000
Back to $6,000 again