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  • #64,061
  • Jan 14, 2014 11:46am Jan 14, 2014 11:46am
Quoting Tiggrrr
{quote} 1 lot for sonic is seen as 0.01 lot
If 1 lot would be 0.01 example for you, do you even be here??? I honestly not
Whatever is obvious is obviously wrong!"
  • #64,062
  • Edited 12:22pm Jan 14, 2014 12:11pm | Edited 12:22pm
NJ Comment

There is a low impact release in about 1.5 hours. Right now, in after hours, the MMs are rehiking the price and M1 confirms sudden high volume as the price broke up thru DR3. This means the MMs are sellers, but are they closing longs or accumulating short positions? In any case, after such a long and far run up as this pair has been given (DAY chart, not M15), it might be time to stalk this for a short trade opportunity.

And right now many YEN pairs are being pushed higher in after hours by the MMs, so a bigger deal might be planned than just what the coming low impact releases could foster!
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  • #64,063
  • Jan 14, 2014 12:55pm Jan 14, 2014 12:55pm
AUDNZD long scout begin
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  • #64,064
  • Jan 14, 2014 2:04pm Jan 14, 2014 2:04pm
UJ: Short scout added now that price has increased to a level I want to start building shorts. If I only stayed in til now! You never really know can you.
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  • #64,065
  • Jan 14, 2014 5:19pm Jan 14, 2014 5:19pm
UChf Long Trade Opened:

Entered long #1, pre-LS Classic.

A series of bullish waves while Dragon drifts upwards makes this a candidate for a Classic long setup. One might suspect that the MMs will work to push the price lower again to accumulate long orders, which might create one or more lower lows, destroying this nice bullish pattern, but it that happens it might only confirm the bullishness of it all. It will depend on PVSRA and maybe a new bullish wave form later created. So, this could be one to keep an eye on for another setup later. Time will tell. Because we cannot know how price will move next, I have decided to start the long trade here, and might add long Scouts later if the price is again pushed lower.
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  • #64,066
  • Jan 14, 2014 5:55pm Jan 14, 2014 5:55pm
Quoting traderathome
EU Short trade Opened: Entered short #1, Scout. This is based solely on the extent of this sudden push back to the upper whole number SR, a very high risk Scout entry. {image}
EU Short trade Closed:

Set TP. Trade closed for 60 pips gain.
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  • #64,067
  • Jan 14, 2014 6:51pm Jan 14, 2014 6:51pm
hello all
m really new here n in the trade.....so far i've lost much in the trade.....hope to get as many advice n help as possible....your help will be really appreciated...thanks in advance
  • #64,068
  • Jan 14, 2014 7:26pm Jan 14, 2014 7:26pm
Quoting pop2014
hello all m really new here n in the trade.....so far i've lost much in the trade.....hope to get as many advice n help as possible....your help will be really appreciated...thanks in advance
You just got to read the posts and understand a system. Most people will say trading is 20% system, 40% money management, and 40% psychology. So if you have most a lot of money, it means u may be weak in your mm and psy.
  • #64,069
  • Edited Jan 15, 2014 9:37am Jan 14, 2014 7:27pm | Edited Jan 15, 2014 9:37am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} EURAUD Short Trade Updated: Added short #2, Scout, as the after hours MMs moved the price a bit higher to the FR 79% retrace level. I would have added this to the original post to save on the number of posts in this thread, but the damned FF Home Page keeps coming up instead of my pics. file every time I attempt to add this pic. to the previous post. Forex Factory, if you can, please fix this damned problem! -tah {image}
EURAUD Short Trade Update:

Added shorts #3-4, Scouts, as the price was progressively pushed towards the upper whole number SR. It might still be pushed to/thru it, in which case if accompanied by notable volumes I intend to add Scout(s). Set TP in area of RWL and a half number, but is tentative thru this week. We cannot know how price will move next, but I'd not be surprised if PA next constructs a nice Classic short setup. Note the volume peak as the Market Makers pushed the price to highs in this early part of the Asian session. They are accumulating short positions to be profitable when the next run down occurs, imho.
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  • #64,070
  • Jan 14, 2014 7:44pm Jan 14, 2014 7:44pm
Quoting traderathome
NJ Comment There is a low impact release in about 1.5 hours. Right now, in after hours, the MMs are rehiking the price and M1 confirms sudden high volume as the price broke up thru DR3. This means the MMs are sellers, but are they closing longs or accumulating short positions? In any case, after such a long and far run up as this pair has been given (DAY chart, not M15), it might be time to stalk this for a short trade opportunity. And right now many YEN pairs are being pushed higher in after hours by the MMs, so a bigger deal might be planned than...
NJ Comment (Continued)

This is the last YEN pair to show signs of capitulating. Confirm that yourself by scanning the YEN pairs on a WEEK chart. NJ has been supported by the Market Makers longer than all the others. I'd be looking for a Sonic R. System Classic short setup on this pair, maybe sometime today during the LS.
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  • #64,071
  • Jan 14, 2014 8:18pm Jan 14, 2014 8:18pm
AZ Comment

I submit this interesting chart for your consideration. Note the price spike low. Note the miniscule activity level. What happened and why?

The price spike low is an indication of selling that drives the price lower, or of price manipulation by the Market Makers looking to accumulate long positions. Which is it? Obviously, it is the latter. Why? If the price were driven low by virtue of selling, then the volume would be far more significant. The reason the volume is insignificant is that the true volume, which is likely very high, was kept in-house by the Market Makers who were the ones doing the price manipulation, taking the price below the 3/4SR (PVSRA). There is no telling how huge the real volume by the MMs was, but whatever it was, it never does show up on broker servers! What we discover the MMs are doing is only thru the "sympathetic" activity thru brokers.

The bottom line here is that the Market Makers are accumulating long positions ahead of a planned bull run.
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  • #64,072
  • Edited 8:42pm Jan 14, 2014 8:21pm | Edited 8:42pm
AN Long Trade Opened:

Entered long #1, Scout, based on perceived MM activity at price spike to lows (see post above: could be huge MM activity on that spike that would never show up on just broker servers). Note that the price was already below a whole number, and below RWL, too! What an ideal place to accumulate long positions! Note also, the AUD high impact releases coming in tomorrow's Asian session. No doubt the Market Makers already know the score. There is no law against "insider trading" in the currency market. Hell, the insiders in the currency market are the banks, and they do most of the trading! And the Market Makers know where all their orders are!
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  • #64,073
  • Jan 14, 2014 8:41pm Jan 14, 2014 8:41pm
Quoting traderathome
AN Long Trade Opened: Entered long #1, Scout, based on perceived MM activity at price spike to lows (see post above: could be huge MM activity on that spike that would never show up on just broker servers). Note that the price was already below a whole number, and below RWL, too! What an ideal place to accumulate long positions! Note also, the AUD high impact releases coming in tomorrow's Asian session. No doubt the Market Makers already know the score. There is no law against "insider trading" in the currency market. Hell, the insiders in the currency...
Prof Tah do you have any addiction to open trades, such as If you not opening trade you will feel uneasy
Learn to Trade is Important. Keep your bias & ego aside.
  • #64,074
  • Jan 14, 2014 8:47pm Jan 14, 2014 8:47pm
Quoting traderathome
UChf Long Trade Opened: Entered long #1, pre-LS Classic. A series of bullish waves while Dragon drifts upwards makes this a candidate for a Classic long setup. One might suspect that the MMs will work to push the price lower again to accumulate long orders, which might create one or more lower lows, destroying this nice bullish pattern, but it that happens it might only confirm the bullishness of it all. It will depend on PVSRA and maybe a new bullish wave form later created. So, this could be one to keep an eye on for another setup later. Time...
UChf Long Trade Closed:

Set TP. Trade closed for 30 pips gain. Will wait now to see if there is a LS retrace and another long setup.
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  • #64,075
  • Jan 14, 2014 8:51pm Jan 14, 2014 8:51pm
Quoting chaosbun
{quote} Prof Tah do you have any addiction to open trades, such as If you not opening trade you will feel uneasy
No. I open a trade when I perceive that the market is giving the right stuff at the right time. If I were sticking to just London session Classic trades, there would be less "perceiving" necessary because the Sonic R. System Classic setup is straightforward, but I am not, and my perceptions are not infallible, either.
  • #64,076
  • Jan 14, 2014 10:45pm Jan 14, 2014 10:45pm
AU - price is back in accumulation phase and everythings starts again..
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Whatever is obvious is obviously wrong!"
  • #64,077
  • Jan 14, 2014 10:52pm Jan 14, 2014 10:52pm
EU - does it hold or ends in accumulation also? No one's know. We can't do nothing, just waiting patiently.
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Good thing is that MMs still building there..
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Whatever is obvious is obviously wrong!"
  • #64,078
  • Jan 14, 2014 10:56pm Jan 14, 2014 10:56pm
Quoting loeil
AU - price is back in accumulation phase and everythings starts again.. {image}
loeil,

I agree

In fact, the price has returned to the previous SonicR Classic long setup EP zone. But, I suspect the MMs will try a further take down to enhance their accumulation of long orders before allowing the next bull run to begin.

-tah
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  • #64,079
  • Jan 14, 2014 11:03pm Jan 14, 2014 11:03pm
Quoting loeil
EU - does it hold or ends in accumulation also? No one's know. We can't do nothing, just waiting patiently. {image} Good thing is that MMs still building there.. {image}
loeil,

Here I disagree I don't see that notable activity as building longs for any major bull run ahead.

I see that notable activity as "stop the drop" activity, the MMs suddenly supporting the price in order that it does not fall further. Why? Because the MMs are bears, bears that want to regain higher prices to resume accumulating short orders. The lower the price falls, the more it costs the MMs to push the price back up to any given level. So, they invest by stopping the drop. Yes, it entails accumulating long orders to stop the drop, but they will get rid of them at a profit when they instigate a retrace move upwards. It helps them another way, too. It gives PA a bullish look, which helps sucker in longs while the MMs next push up the price to accumulate more short orders. It is all about liquidity. Personally, after closing my short trade, I am looking for another retrace upwards to begin another short trade. I do not have trust on the long side, to enter a long trade to trade the retrace move.

-tah
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  • #64,080
  • Jan 14, 2014 11:09pm Jan 14, 2014 11:09pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} loeil, Here I disagree I don't see that notable activity as building longs. I see that notable activity as "stop the drop" activity, the MMs suddenly supporting the price in order that it does not fall further. Why? Because the MMs are bears, bears that want to regain higher prices to resume accumulating short orders. The lower the price falls, the more it costs the MMs to push the price back up to any given level. So, they invest by stopping the drop. It helps them another way, too. It gives PA a bullish look, which helps sucker...
If they are bears, then why this sudden drop happened at night(outside Lo)? Lo is not opened.. And why you closed your short?

How to explain this kind of market behavior - on the left side is perfect accumulation phase, and then what? Distribution after this multiple days of long buildings? I don't think so..What is happening now, seems to be a normal part of market movings.
Whatever is obvious is obviously wrong!"
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