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  • #341
  • Jan 9, 2014 2:39pm Jan 9, 2014 2:39pm
Hey Xaphod,

I'm writing regarding the MTF Stochastics. I use it mostly without the MTF function on the same time frame because I like the dots bar close function and colour changing, amongst other features.

My question is with regards to the shots below:

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I know that the colour changes when the stoch goes up or down by comparison to the previous measurement. It also stays the overbought and oversold colours between the 20/80 (or other selected) settings.

What I have noticed is that it sometimes does not change colour when the stoch does indeed move from a higher to lower or vice versa position - even when well outside the O/B or O/S. I ask because (and this might be luck) trusting the colour more than the direction often results in a win.

I'm guessing that either a) I'm crazy since a heart rate monitor makes me think OS, OB, OS.... b) there is a calculation behind the move inertia of price relative to the stochastic.

If the "glitch" was intended, please can you share the logic behind it? Please don't fix it though - it works marvellously to indicate weak moves - at least in my world

Cheers,

J
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  • #342
  • Edited 3:15pm Jan 9, 2014 2:55pm | Edited 3:15pm
Quoting never2old
Hey Xaphod, I'm writing regarding the MTF Stochastics. I use it mostly without the MTF function on the same time frame because I like the dots bar close function and colour changing, amongst other features. My question is with regards to the shots below: {image} {image} {image} I know that the colour changes when the stoch goes up or down by comparison to the previous measurement. It also stays the overbought and oversold colours between the 20/80 (or other selected) settings. What I have noticed is that it sometimes does not change colour when...
It is due to a technical limitation in the way MT4 draws lines. It cannot draw lines between consecutive points in alternating colors in certain cases (or something to that effect, I don't remember exactly) without using extra buffers and additional complication to the logic of the program.

One would have to identify the special cases and use a separate buffer to display them. It either was not worth the bother or I run out of buffers or it was not worth the performance penalty.
  • #343
  • Jan 9, 2014 4:16pm Jan 9, 2014 4:16pm
Lol - it's efficacy equating in me being nuts then :-)

I'll try to note them down. From memory it almost always happens when price closes weaker even though the stochastic is up or vice versa.

Example attached.

Thank you for the expedient answer.

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  • #344
  • Jan 9, 2014 4:30pm Jan 9, 2014 4:30pm
Quoting never2old
Lol - it's efficacy equating in me being nuts then :-) I'll try to note them down. From memory it almost always happens when price closes weaker even though the stochastic is up or vice versa. Example attached. Thank you for the expedient answer. {image}
It only happens when the change in the other direction holds for one bar only and only happens on one of the two colors.
  • #345
  • Jan 9, 2014 4:42pm Jan 9, 2014 4:42pm
Thanks X. Very interesting.

Hope you have a good NFP and weekend.
  • #346
  • Jan 11, 2014 1:34am Jan 11, 2014 1:34am
Wanted to add my own appreciation to the many appreciative posters for the work and efforts of the matrix team. Not being able to post to the main thread (hopefully I will soon hint hint RJ) I could only say thanks here.
ive been trading for over 5 years and I think gen matrix will finally assist me to become the successful trader I know I can be.
now that I have setup charts using the wonderful indies created and so generously provided to us, the challenge will be to work out the best way to trade based upon my individual style and personality.
Such a shame I have only recently discovered these threads so have over 1000 pages to read and digest.

next time you receive negative feedback from a poster like that previous muppet a couple of pages back just refer to the many previous messages of thanks. Know that people are making profit from your hard work.

now back to reading 1000 pages and trying to find info on how others best use this wonderful tool

timmy
  • #347
  • Edited 2:26pm Jan 12, 2014 6:07am | Edited 2:26pm
Quoting timster
Wanted to add my own appreciation to the many appreciative posters for the work and efforts of the matrix team. Not being able to post to the main thread (hopefully I will soon hint hint RJ) I could only say thanks here. ive been trading for over 5 years and I think gen matrix will finally assist me to become the successful trader I know I can be. now that I have setup charts using the wonderful indies created and so generously provided to us, the challenge will be to work out the best way to trade based upon my individual style and personality....
Thank you Timster and welcome to the genesis matrix system. If you want to speed up the learning curve, you can try doing the IFR Trading exercise in a simulator. You will need to use the standard stochastic to model the MTF stochastic as the MTF stoch does not work correctly in the simulator.
  • #348
  • Jan 17, 2014 8:31am Jan 17, 2014 8:31am
Hi Xaphod

As a Genesis trader, I want to say thank you for all your effort and hard work.

I have been updating my indicators from page 1 and starting testing the stoch tape and I love it

So a big thank you again

Pattie
  • #349
  • Jan 19, 2014 11:12pm Jan 19, 2014 11:12pm
Quoting Pattie
Hi Xaphod As a Genesis trader, I want to say thank you for all your effort and hard work. I have been updating my indicators from page 1 and starting testing the stoch tape and I love it So a big thank you again Pattie
Thanks Pattie, you are welcome. Good to see you back. Trade well!
  • #350
  • Jan 27, 2014 11:19pm Jan 27, 2014 11:19pm
Xaphod,

i am am having an issue I am wondering if you have heard of before. When I save files as picture from MT4 (so as to post the images online) the PNG files are locked and I cannot attach them. If I save the URL, and try to upload from that link I get. Error: Invalid File Type.

Also, within the MT4 directory I can not create new files.

i have never ever encountered these issues before. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
  • #351
  • Jan 27, 2014 11:30pm Jan 27, 2014 11:30pm
Quoting panamamike
Xaphod, i am am having an issue I am wondering if you have heard of before. When I save files as picture from MT4 (so as to post the images online) the PNG files are locked and I cannot attach them. If I save the URL, and try to upload from that link I get. Error: Invalid File Type. Also, within the MT4 directory I can not create new files. i have never ever encountered these issues before. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
- Install MT4 outside of the 'Program Files' folder to avoid such issues
or
- Check the security options for the MT4 folders and make sure your user has full access rights to the folders.

You cannot save a file on your computer as a URL. A URL is a web address and not an image file so if you try to upload a URL and the server is expecting an image file, it will not work. (A URL can be stored as a text file on the computer with the extension '.url').

Try to open the screenshot images in an image editor (mspaint.exe for example) to see if they are valid and you can access them.
  • #352
  • Jan 28, 2014 12:02am Jan 28, 2014 12:02am
Will do. Thanks for the advice.
  • #353
  • Jan 28, 2014 12:15am Jan 28, 2014 12:15am
Quoting panamamike
Will do. Thanks for the advice.

Here is a useful link:
http://4xtrader.net/how-to-run-metat...ws-7-or-vista/
  • #354
  • Jan 28, 2014 1:22am Jan 28, 2014 1:22am
Hello Xaphod

I want to say you are doing a great work here, and you are a gifted coder.
I have a problem with the new MT4 build 574, actually I was unaware of the new build until I had to move my platform to a borrowed laptop.
I installed my brokers MT4 and then proceeded to load my custom indies on it but I found that there was no Experts folder in the programme files , then I saw that there was a folder called MQL4, I opened it and found did not included the Indicators folder and Experts folder separately. I opened the Indicators folder and copied the custom indicators there, closed the platform, re-opened it and to my amazement none of the custom indicators appeared in the Custom Indicators folder in the Navigator panel of the platform.
I've been forced to make do with some other indicators which I downloaded directly from code base through the platform, and my performance is being affected.

I'm posting screenshots to show the sequence, I don't know if you can have any solution to this problem as I've chatted with my broker's rep and all I have is a promise to take it up with IT dept but that may take I don't know how long.
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Let it turn and find your entry.
  • #355
  • Jan 28, 2014 2:23am Jan 28, 2014 2:23am
Quoting Intrepidpips
Hello Xaphod I want to say you are doing a great work here, and you are a gifted coder. I have a problem with the new MT4 build 574, actually I was unaware of the new build until I had to move my platform to a borrowed laptop. I installed my brokers MT4 and then proceeded to load my custom indies on it but I found that there was no Experts folder in the programme files , then I saw that there was a folder called MQL4, I opened it and found did not included the Indicators folder and Experts folder separately. I opened the Indicators folder and copied...
You can find your MT4 user folder in the new MT4 by going to "File->Open data Folder" in the main menu.

If you want it to use the folder it is installed in, you should start the terminal with the portable flag: termial.exe /portable, alternatively you should install it outside of your 'program files' folder, possibly another drive. (Not sure how it behaves in this case, you'll have to try it yourself)

The folder it uses for indicators is '../myMT4/MQL4/indicators', '../myMT4/MQL4/expert' etc.

Some of your indicators will not compile in the new MT4. You can install executables (myindicator.ex4) from an older version of MT4 (<=509). They should run. Mostly. Offline chart EA/scripts many not work. Indicators calling Dll's using ANSI strings may not work.

Ref:
http://forum.mql4.com/60075
  • #356
  • Jan 28, 2014 3:05am Jan 28, 2014 3:05am
Quoting Xaphod
{quote} You can find your MT4 user folder in the new MT4 by going to "File->Open data Folder" in the main menu. If you want it to use the folder it is installed in, you should start the terminal with the portable flag: termial.exe /portable, alternatively you should install it outside of your 'program files' folder, possibly another drive. (Not sure how it behaves in this case, you'll have to try it yourself) The folder it uses for indicators is '../myMT4/MQL4/indicators', '../myMT4/MQL4/expert' etc. Some of your indicators will not compile in the...
Removed my reply as didn't realise this ... interesting.
1 pip at a time ... if the entries are strong, the rest will follow ...
  • #357
  • Jan 28, 2014 3:06am Jan 28, 2014 3:06am
THANKS SO MUCH

While waiting and not wanting to go through yesterdays nightmare again, I uninstalled my brokers platform and downloaded it afresh from their website, installed it and now I found the Experts folder containing the Indicators folder and copied the indicators their now I'm back to life though I missed some great entries.

You are great Xaphod and thanks to antantnz too for chipping in.
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Let it turn and find your entry.
  • #358
  • Jan 28, 2014 3:09am Jan 28, 2014 3:09am
Quoting Xaphod
{quote} You can find your MT4 user folder in the new MT4 by going to "File->Open data Folder" in the main menu. If you want it to use the folder it is installed in, you should start the terminal with the portable flag: termial.exe /portable, alternatively you should install it outside of your 'program files' folder, possibly another drive. (Not sure how it behaves in this case, you'll have to try it yourself) The folder it uses for indicators is '../myMT4/MQL4/indicators', '../myMT4/MQL4/expert' etc. Some of your indicators will not compile in the...
I guess my broker must have reverted to an older build since the 574 build is not too accommodating don't want all their new/existing clients going thru the same rigours.
Let it turn and find your entry.
  • #359
  • Jan 28, 2014 3:53am Jan 28, 2014 3:53am
Quoting Intrepidpips
{quote} I guess my broker must have reverted to an older build since the 574 build is not too accommodating don't want all their new/existing clients going thru the same rigours.
It is probably best to experiment with the new version on a demo account before upgrading a live account. Now, since upgrading is no longer optional, most users will be forced to contend with the new version when it is 'released', possibly as soon as next week. The current build is 578 and it is not what I would consider release worthy.
  • #360
  • Jan 30, 2014 7:29am Jan 30, 2014 7:29am
Hi Xaphod - thanks for the excellent indicators you have selflessly provided for Genesis users

I find the ASCTrend1i very useful with its adjustable risk - a great way to get the arrows to suite our own trading.

Do you have a version with an alert?.....and if not - I have looked - would you please consider adding a pop up and audio alert.....this would make the monitoring of multiple contracts much easir

Regards

Islander
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