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  • #63,741
  • Jan 5, 2014 9:31am Jan 5, 2014 9:31am
Sonic is your view same as TAH?

Quoting traderathome
{quote} {quote} {quote} Predicting is Folly. Possibility Thinking is Profitable. Regarding AU: Can we really conclude that AU is in a uptrend? Maybe it is just ranging. Maybe the ranging is for the accumulation of longs, but maybe the ranging is for the accumulation of shorts. Personally, from doing PVSRA on lower TFs, I conclude the price has been ranging for the purpose of accumulation of longs, but that an uptrend has not yet taken hold. If and when an uptrend starts, with the prospects of USD strengthening, the uptrend might be short lived....
  • #63,742
  • Jan 5, 2014 9:55am Jan 5, 2014 9:55am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} {quote} {quote} Predicting is Folly. Possibility Thinking is Profitable. Regarding AU: Can we really conclude that AU is in a uptrend? Maybe it is just ranging. Maybe the ranging is for the accumulation of longs, but maybe the ranging is for the accumulation of shorts. Personally, from doing PVSRA on lower TFs, I conclude the price has been ranging for the purpose of accumulation of longs, but that an uptrend has not yet taken hold. If and when an uptrend starts, with the prospects of USD strengthening, the uptrend might be short lived....
Hi traderathome


My English is not good, but I can read.
I do not quite understand Scout , can you elaborate on how to use Scout? What's the difference between Scout and Sonic R rules?
  • #63,743
  • Jan 5, 2014 1:55pm Jan 5, 2014 1:55pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} {quote} Doubting Thomas "Ajoe1" Doubts are part of this venture. Now, however, after seeing the gobs of trading on Friday at the highs the MMs pushed the price up to, followed by a selloff before the market closed, I have even more reasons to support my conjecture that the market makers are bears that are loading up on short orders. Time will tell. {image}
yeah, as a swing trade I just think A/J is a great long. That's all. Near term it might correct a little. Actually looking for shorts on A/U and longs on E/A.
  • #63,744
  • Edited 5:28pm Jan 5, 2014 5:08pm | Edited 5:28pm
Quoting wyf88wyf
{quote} Hi traderathome My English is not good, but I can read. I do not quite understand Scout , can you elaborate on how to use Scout? What's the difference between Scout and Sonic R rules?
Just follow the Sonic R. System rules and recommendations regarding the Classic trade, and keep up with reading the thread. You will by reading the thread come to know how we are using the Scout, which is essentially a trade that supports the Classic trade, but used when we see the MMs pulling price back against the trade and we believe they are doing so to enter in the same direction of the trade, but at better prices. Obviously, the Scout might be used where many folks instead have their SL! Such a Scout is risky, and if you use it during such a price pullback you'd better believe in the trade. The Scout is also a trade after a Classic and when price is moving in the right direction, when you are simply adding to the trade. Finally, the Scout can be a trade entered when price has made a strong move culminating in a lot of volume, such that it appears the MMs have pushed price to some limit and are closing out. This Scout entry is opposite the move and should not be done immediate. Wait for some confirmation the price might be reversing. This too, is a very risky application of the Scout.
  • #63,745
  • Jan 5, 2014 6:14pm Jan 5, 2014 6:14pm
Quoting sonicdeejay
Almost forgot... Happy new Year.. My Dear Sonikers... Thank you for your kind supports for the last year.. May we have more pips this year... Sonic
Happy New Year to all Sonikers,

here my xmas and new year present.
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May the code help to pick the best SonicR setups.

kind regards
atstrader
  • #63,746
  • Jan 5, 2014 6:24pm Jan 5, 2014 6:24pm
hi, TAH. how are you?
scout #1 gbp/j long
wath do you thin about?
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  • #63,747
  • Jan 5, 2014 6:38pm Jan 5, 2014 6:38pm
TAH, i read carefully your posts.
you improved with PVSRA.
you are a master with sonicdj
thanks for your efforts
bye
mau
  • #63,748
  • Jan 5, 2014 7:37pm Jan 5, 2014 7:37pm
  • #63,749
  • Edited 8:38pm Jan 5, 2014 8:14pm | Edited 8:38pm
Quoting mauroby
Do not go against master sonic prediction..

Sonic
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  • #63,750
  • Jan 5, 2014 10:25pm Jan 5, 2014 10:25pm
Hi SaiLyfee,


you must understand that when u short, your stop loss is basically buying back at a loss. Hence ur stop loss is triggered due to
the ask price (buying back). due to the spread.


Correct me if im wrong. Cheers.
  • #63,751
  • Jan 5, 2014 10:37pm Jan 5, 2014 10:37pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} saiLyfee, Please call your broker right away and do the same review of your trade with them. Then ask them why was your trade "stopped out" when the price never reached your set SL on the day at the time they said it did. Don't be bashful with them. Make them explain their actions to your satisfaction. If it was a real account, it would be your real money. Better to find out what they are like before that happens. Let us know how your broker responded. Thanks. -tah
94.073
94.063 + spread = Ask Price > 94.073 . I think spread ^^
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  • #63,752
  • Jan 5, 2014 10:39pm Jan 5, 2014 10:39pm
Quoting SaiLyfee
Hey this is probably a little off topic in regards to trading specifically so I'll try to keep it sweet and short but this may be related in some ways to what Sonic posted about MT4 SL hunting..Not entirely sure but that's why I wanted to put it forward. Last week I entered a short trade on AJ via my demo account I have with Vantage FX. I assume the prices in the demo account reflect the live trading prices associated with the broker but I'm not entirely sure. So I entered with an SL of 94.073. What happened next was I found the trade days later...
Since your SL was a BUY, it would be based on the ASK price to trigger it. Most charting programs base their "Prices" on the BID price. This is also why some brokers widen their spreads. It allows them to clear out some stops. Tricky.
  • #63,753
  • Jan 5, 2014 10:46pm Jan 5, 2014 10:46pm
annd this?
i think that is good....
can you tell me something?
thanks
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  • #63,754
  • Edited 11:08pm Jan 5, 2014 10:52pm | Edited 11:08pm
EDIT: Ahh okay. Yes after reading it is of course got to be the spreads, something I had never been aware to factor in. Thankfully that is all there is to it, no problem TAH thank you and other for helping in clearing that up for me. You learn something new everyday, appreciate it
  • #63,755
  • Jan 5, 2014 10:54pm Jan 5, 2014 10:54pm
Quoting mauroby
annd this? i think that is good.... can you tell me something? thanks {image}
What if the lows of this Asian session are followed by lower lows in the LS?

I am also looking to add to my EU long trade which I started at the end of Friday, but I want to see if the LS MMs will take price even lower, maybe down below the 3/4SR, and perhaps down to DS1 pivot area.
  • #63,756
  • Jan 5, 2014 11:08pm Jan 5, 2014 11:08pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} What if the lows of this Asian session are followed by lower lows in the LS? I am also looking to add to my EU long trade which I started at the end of Friday, but I want to see if the LS MMs will take price even lower, maybe down below the 3/4SR, and perhaps down to DS1 pivot area.
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  • #63,757
  • Jan 5, 2014 11:11pm Jan 5, 2014 11:11pm
Dear Sonikers,

I have long GJ, for the following reason:
- Saw a 3 wave drop, on H1
- The price reached today's RDL & pivot S2
- Fundamentally, GBP is strong, and JPY is trying very hard to lower their own currency
- This pair has dropped about 440 pips since year 2014

I know most of the above reasons are not a Sonic R system. Therefore, I try on pvsra, and I feel that MM is now building on long position, as most of the high volume of today's price action, is at the low price. Traderathome, can I request on yr view on this pair please.

Sonicdeejay, what is yr view, after another drop in this pair today? Do you still feel that it can still drop?

Thank you very much in advance!
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  • #63,758
  • Jan 5, 2014 11:12pm Jan 5, 2014 11:12pm
Quoting mauroby
{quote} {image}
So we suppose MM's are building their LONG but dragon is not good.....
late for short and early for long?????????
  • #63,759
  • Jan 5, 2014 11:15pm Jan 5, 2014 11:15pm
Quoting mauroby
{quote} So we suppose MM's are building their LONG but dragon is not good..... late for short and early for long?????????
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  • #63,760
  • Jan 5, 2014 11:22pm Jan 5, 2014 11:22pm
UCad Short Trade Opened:

Entered short #1, pre-LS Classic as PA wave leg 2 prices came back up to an area of earlier support (and maybe now resistance). The LS might see higher prices, maybe back up to the PVT. If high enough, and if I am at the computer, I might add a short Scout. Can not know is such will happen, so decided to make this entry now. No TP or SL at this time.
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