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  • #867,101
  • Jan 1, 2014 2:31pm Jan 1, 2014 2:31pm
Quoting infinitus
{quote} LOL if the peasons managed to have more money than the big boys, I would say: PARTY and so the money goes to the bar
You are again, assuming someone in this markets knows where prices is going for a specific assets ? ... for god sake, few years ago the entire financial system almost collapsed because of heavy betting ?Big boys or small, it makes no difference - if you were Soros or the SNB, you can't fight the entire market that can match your liquidity and double it.

The little kid in Goldman Sachs who were responsible for 20% of E-mini ... he couldn't push the markets were he wanted to go ? He booked the losses and awaits to be jailed.

Quoting infinitus
{quote} exactly to trade a confirmation on one TF, is trading counterdtrend on a lower TF, isn't it?

True
"It's the Margin, Stupid."
  • #867,102
  • Jan 1, 2014 2:32pm Jan 1, 2014 2:32pm
Quoting ffleo
{quote} 95% retail lose. This is not because retail bet it wrong most of the time. it is because retails have shallow pocket but bet large, and get margin calls. retail have to take a loss at margins calls, and later on watch the market goes their in regret. So if you want retail not to lose, bet small, have enough margin to sustain some market movement going againt you.
That is a different question. But what do you mean as bet wrong? If you are right about the daily trend but trying to gain from the 15M (hence indiscriminate MM) and get stopped out do you call that betting right about the direction?
The price will go where it has to go.
  • #867,103
  • Jan 1, 2014 2:36pm Jan 1, 2014 2:36pm
Quoting JeremyWS
{quote} when did it stop??? (hint : it didn't)
23 hours ago.
  • #867,104
  • Jan 1, 2014 2:37pm Jan 1, 2014 2:37pm
Quoting Baggi
Can someone tell me, how many hours before EURUSD starts trading again?
It is already trading at 1.3757
  • #867,105
  • Jan 1, 2014 2:39pm Jan 1, 2014 2:39pm
Quoting Rockerzeus
{quote} It is already trading at 1.3757

Yeah, it's been stuck there for almost a full day, since the bank holiday.
  • #867,106
  • Jan 1, 2014 2:42pm Jan 1, 2014 2:42pm
Quoting Vachus
{quote} You are again, assuming someone in this markets knows where prices is going for a specific assets ? ...
haha, you did not get my humor this time

Look, for example at COT data:

when you look through the data of the past years of e.g EU, one can see, that sometimes the dumb-money is spot on and the smart-money is completely wrong (and vice versa)


I do not like at all the meme of smart and dumb money

Look at year end retrospectively at the prognosis of the smart money money-managers what they predicted at start of 2013 the EPS of the SP500 should be, and compare it to what it really is. Man, is that dumb :-)


Clearly on the same page with you here
  • #867,107
  • Jan 1, 2014 2:45pm Jan 1, 2014 2:45pm
Quoting Baggi
{quote} Yeah, it's been stuck there for almost a full day, since the bank holiday.

look here:

http://www.xe.com/?r=1


only your broker has closed (mine too)


interbank is open
  • #867,108
  • Jan 1, 2014 2:46pm Jan 1, 2014 2:46pm
Quoting Baggi
{quote} 23 hours ago.
it has been trading all day...

here's a quote.
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  • #867,109
  • Jan 1, 2014 2:51pm Jan 1, 2014 2:51pm
It seems I need to ask a different question.


Hrmmm, a difficult thing to do, as I'm not sure how to ask it so the experienced traders here will understand what it is I'm asking. Who knew it would be this difficult?

Every day I come here and the action is going pretty quick. EUR/USD and GBP/USD and many other USD pairs are trading hot and heavy. This shut down about 23 hours ago. It shut down because a holiday, known in the West as New Years, took place. This was similar to the Christmas holiday.

When will this process start up again?
  • #867,110
  • Jan 1, 2014 2:51pm Jan 1, 2014 2:51pm
Quoting infinitus
{quote} What is your assessment of this "tug of war"? What are you looking at?
Attila was talking about consolidations, in consolidations as in many development on the chart, there is a war between the bulls and the bears going on, in consolidation it is more evident….there is constant struggle going on, we as retailer have not the luxury to be part of it until (jump on the wagon) one of the part lets go of the rope given fuel to the other side by covering….

That is why I said good traders do not trade the market, they trade the people in it…..
Wherever you go, there you are.
  • #867,111
  • Jan 1, 2014 2:54pm Jan 1, 2014 2:54pm
Quoting Baggi
It seems I need to ask a different question. Hrmmm, a difficult thing to do, as I'm not sure how to ask it so the experienced traders here will understand what it is I'm asking. Who knew it would be this difficult? Every day I come here and the action is going pretty quick. EUR/USD and GBP/USD and many other USD pairs are trading hot and heavy. This shut down about 23 hours ago. It shut down because a holiday, known in the West as New Years, took place. This was similar to the Christmas holiday. When will this process start up again?
I know that the FX spot desk gets back on Monday for Morgan stanley and credit suisse. Most will likely be similar. Until then - low liquidity and volumes.
  • #867,112
  • Jan 1, 2014 2:57pm Jan 1, 2014 2:57pm
Quoting Baggi
It seems I need to ask a different question. Hrmmm, a difficult thing to do, as I'm not sure how to ask it so the experienced traders here will understand what it is I'm asking. Who knew it would be this difficult? Every day I come here and the action is going pretty quick. EUR/USD and GBP/USD and many other USD pairs are trading hot and heavy. This shut down about 23 hours ago. It shut down because a holiday, known in the West as New Years, took place. This was similar to the Christmas holiday. When will this process start up again?

Probably 1 hr later it will start to move slowly, but volatilty come back around frankfurt open and than london open which means 10-11 hrs later
  • #867,113
  • Jan 1, 2014 2:58pm Jan 1, 2014 2:58pm
Quoting JeremyWS
{quote} I know that the FX spot desk gets back on Monday for Morgan stanley and credit suisse. Most will likely be similar. Until then - low liquidity and volumes.
Still not answering the question I'm asking. No worries, I know it's my fault.

Let me try asking another question, perhaps this will assist me in finding the answer I'm looking for.

When will these trades start including USD pairs again? I haven't seen any for 23 hours.

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  • #867,114
  • Jan 1, 2014 2:58pm Jan 1, 2014 2:58pm
Quoting Vachus
{quote} The question is , what is a confirmation ?
When a confirmation is confirmed.
The Thief of Wall Street
  • #867,115
  • Jan 1, 2014 2:58pm Jan 1, 2014 2:58pm
Quoting Baggi
When will this process start up again?
In about an hour from now. Most brokers will start then.
The price will go where it has to go.
  • #867,116
  • Jan 1, 2014 2:59pm Jan 1, 2014 2:59pm
Quoting Rockerzeus
{quote} Probably 1 hr later it will start to move slowly, but volatilty come back around frankfurt open and than london open which means 10-11 hrs later

Thank you Rockerzeus!

That is the information I was looking for. I appreciate it.
  • #867,117
  • Jan 1, 2014 2:59pm Jan 1, 2014 2:59pm
Quoting Chicky
{quote} When a confirmation is confirmed.
So true
The price will go where it has to go.
  • #867,118
  • Jan 1, 2014 2:59pm Jan 1, 2014 2:59pm
Quoting mitrapips
{quote} In about an hour from now. Most brokers will start then.
Awesome! Thanks for the help. Exactly what I was looking for.
  • #867,119
  • Jan 1, 2014 3:00pm Jan 1, 2014 3:00pm
I need to go:

Guys if you have a chance, please the us (and yourself) what are your weakness that prevent you becoming a better trader:

http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=464578
Wherever you go, there you are.
  • #867,120
  • Jan 1, 2014 3:02pm Jan 1, 2014 3:02pm
Quoting milam
{quote} Attila was talking about consolidations, in consolidations as in many development on the chart, there is a war between the bulls and the bears going on, in consolidation it is more evident….there is constant struggle going on, we as retailer have not the luxury to be part of it until (jump on the wagon) one of the part lets go of the rope given fuel to the other side by covering…. That is why I said good traders do not trade the market, they trade the people in it…..

Yeah, but how do YOU trade that?

I love the tugs of war, because I love range trading. The more wars, the more opportunities in a (often) well defined range
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