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  • #866,921
  • Dec 31, 2013 10:26am Dec 31, 2013 10:26am
Quoting attila
hey guys, I posted this the day you're talking about.... {quote}
Happy New Year, attila.

I cannot buy firecrackers in Illinois but I can in Indiana. I cannot buy booze on holiday in Indiana but I can in Illinois. It is nice to live around the border of the two states.
ignore wackos and psychos, including myself. But I can't add myself to iggy
  • #866,922
  • Dec 31, 2013 10:36am Dec 31, 2013 10:36am
Quoting ffleo
{quote} Happy New Year, attila. I cannot buy firecrackers in Illinois but I can in Indiana. I cannot buy booze on holiday in Indiana but I can in Illinois. It is nice to live around the border of the two states.
fuck this shit. I hate these crap laws..fuck how much I hate them.. fucking righteous fucks making them..happy new year!
  • #866,923
  • Dec 31, 2013 10:40am Dec 31, 2013 10:40am
Because we trade in "Auction Markets" imho it just makes sense to me to apply "Auction Market Principles". AMT traders trade "value" not "price". One of the basics you ask yourself before putting on a trade is "where are we in relation to value"???? Yesterdays AMT analysis didn't support higher prices, if at best consolidation, if not a breakdown. But this is an auction market, so why wouldn't you want to at least apply the most basic of principles???? Anyway, just my opinion.......... Why the spike up? imho, to get the LTF to respond to price by selling........its what they do......
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  • #866,924
  • Dec 31, 2013 10:45am Dec 31, 2013 10:45am
Happy New year To all FFF
Say something meaningful or Silence!!
  • #866,925
  • Dec 31, 2013 11:00am Dec 31, 2013 11:00am
Quoting Magix
{quote} You are the one who requires a statistical analysis, PDFs and studies... I made a statement about what routinely happens in market, and within 5 days of that most recent statement, it happened. Call it a Meme...I call you blatantly ignorant in the face of solid proof. Burying your head in the sand is not a valid response. Furthermore {quote} If you cannot agree that sticking with the trend or sitting sidelines is better than fighting it... {quote} You are of no help to anybody.

See Magix,

intentionally or unintentionally you are using all the weapons of a troll: obfuscating, changing the subject, being rude, etc.etc.

The whole subject in the beginning was not about "sticking with the trend or sitting sidelines is better than fighting it".

The subject was simply, simply, simply, your statement, that SL hunts can not happen in direction of trend. I gave sources, information etc. that it can happen in direction of trend.

You ridiculed FFleo for bringing the SL hunt up, and I showed you, that not only your claim was bad but also a fallacy.

Then here you claim your arbitrary observations as solid proof and something would happen routinely in markets (well, routinely what goes up, must come down, ain't it).

Then you claim me ignorant because I asked for statistical evidence.


I also told you, that I have, at this time, no proof of momentum ignition, and you have now proof, that your method works with a higher probability. You could have taken this offer from me, but you went ahead with the same ill arguments.

I even told you, that it is meaningless for me, what caused the spike up, because all I need is the price, the volume and the momentum.

You could have taken this and give it a rest. But again I have to read all the ill "arguments" again and again.

I even gave fundamental reasons, why price went further up (and Attila gave a link to what he wrote days before).


But all you are doing is attacking without thinking, cherry picking the arguments, pervert the words, changing subjects and so on...........



I am fed up and will now leave you alone.



Off to party
  • #866,926
  • Dec 31, 2013 11:01am Dec 31, 2013 11:01am
Wish all you people here a happy new year 2014

May all your wishes come true. Prosper and stay healthy and kind.


Infinitus
  • #866,927
  • Dec 31, 2013 11:01am Dec 31, 2013 11:01am
Quoting mzvega
Because we trade in "Auction Markets" imho it just makes sense to me to apply "Auction Market Principles". AMT traders trade "value" not "price". One of the basics you ask yourself before putting on a trade is "where are we in relation to value"???? Yesterdays AMT analysis didn't support higher prices, if at best consolidation, if not a breakdown. But this is an auction market, so why wouldn't you want to at least apply the most basic of principles???? Anyway, just my opinion.......... Why the spike up? imho, to get the LTF to respond to price by...




great analysis, as ever
  • #866,928
  • Dec 31, 2013 11:03am Dec 31, 2013 11:03am
Quoting mzvega
Because we trade in "Auction Markets" imho it just makes sense to me to apply "Auction Market Principles". AMT traders trade "value" not "price". One of the basics you ask yourself before putting on a trade is "where are we in relation to value"???? Yesterdays AMT analysis didn't support higher prices, if at best consolidation, if not a breakdown. But this is an auction market, so why wouldn't you want to at least apply the most basic of principles???? Anyway, just my opinion.......... Why the spike up? imho, to get the LTF to respond to price by...

Interesting post.Keep posting.Elaborate more if you can on Action Markets.
Thank you
In trading, you have to be defensive and aggressive at the same time
  • #866,929
  • Dec 31, 2013 11:05am Dec 31, 2013 11:05am
happy new year to all
  • #866,930
  • Dec 31, 2013 11:06am Dec 31, 2013 11:06am
Quoting infinitus
Wish all you people here a happy new year 2014 May all your wishes come true. Prosper and stay healthy and kind. Infinitus

same to you
In trading, you have to be defensive and aggressive at the same time
  • #866,931
  • Dec 31, 2013 11:31am Dec 31, 2013 11:31am
Quoting Davit
{quote} Interesting post.Keep posting.Elaborate more if you can on Action Markets. Thank you
Yesterday I formed a bias, which really hasn't change. I shy away posting outside the AMT thread. As many traders who do use the indicator, trade the picture of the profile without using analyzing the "data" generated by the indicator. Its a learning process, and it's impossible, to gain a full understanding by reading a thread & slapping an indicator to the chart and trade the random lines. Those lines are info, not necessarily entries or exit areas. "Value" can not be found within the intraday TF so daily POC's & Value areas from the daily TF don t have enough data to tell you the "condition" of the market. You need at least 3 days worth of data. AMT analysis, takes effort, its deligently analyzing and tracking EOD data, and having a trading plan.......

heres my bias from yesterday.........http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...80#post7179180
Markets are not efficient, rather they are effective - Jones
  • #866,932
  • Dec 31, 2013 11:36am Dec 31, 2013 11:36am
Quoting infinitus
{quote} See Magix, intentionally or unintentionally you are using all the weapons of a troll: obfuscating, changing the subject, being rude, etc.etc. The whole subject in the beginning was not about "sticking with the trend or sitting sidelines is better than fighting it". The subject was simply, simply, simply, your statement, that SL hunts can not happen in direction of trend. I gave sources, information etc. that it can happen in direction of trend. You ridiculed FFleo for bringing the SL hunt up, and I showed you, that not only your claim was...

See Markus,

I have been right on point since we started this conversation, where you happened to Troll on in.

Though your defence of the weak is admirable, your logic is flawed.

My actual idea, is that not only was this not a stop loss hunt, that the market is actually to large for this sort of manipulation. ERGO, from my perspective...it is a unicorn. It doesn't exist. People can talk about it until they are blue in the face, but again, this is not the Penny Stock Markets...

After Atilla posted link on banks clearing the books, you continue to rant on and defend another FF troll FFLeo, even when the statement of Banks Clearing the Books posted by Reuters is a lot closer to my fundamental theory of CC companies clearing exchange than is to the Cannot be Proven, Stop Loss Hunt Unicorn.

Where you demand statistical analysis from me, you haven't actually provided any to support this theory. Statistically, How many times has this STOP LOSS HUNT, happened in the Forex Markets?

If there is no Statistical proof that this actually happens, then by your own logic, you must also take to the assumption that There Was no Stop Loss Hunt. Vega has also provided the theory on STOP LOSS HUNTS, HERE. Though he does not quote reference, the idea of this, makes infinitely more sense than does your theory behind the same Unicorn.

My thoughts...independent brokers do have the ability to widen spread to take out market stops, but the market as a WHOLE cannot swing to wipe out the masses. It makes no sense.

Because you have added more information with each passing post, I have replied under the same premise, not changed the subject.

The real subject, for all intents and purposes, is that FFLEO is a Moron.

I am still befuddled by your logic, where in the face of proof, you still continue to rant on, with exception to question, who is the troll here?

So, reply or don't reply, let me ask these questions:
1. Did I provide proof that market has been measured on more than a single occasion by a moving average cross, prior to the December Spike?
2. Did I show technical evidence of this on the chart upon request?
3. Was the market moving "In Trend", or "Out of Trend"?
4. Do you have any proof that Stop Hunts are a regular part of the Forex Market?
5. Have I proven with technical information all of my claims?

The logical assumption from answering these questions, is that I am correct.

You are frustrated because you are ineffectively defending a troll, without any, and I mean without a SINGLE SHRED of evidence to counter any single point that I have made.

Be angry. That is your problem, not mine.

When you want to compare charts and information, you know where to find me. When you decide to champion a fool, I'd suggest you choose your battles a little more wisely.

If not, maybe next time, just suggest that I take a more soft approach if you feel that this would better serve FF.

Happy New Year all the same, dude.

I still respect your opinion...I just don't think you backed up your standpoint empirically or effectively because, it actually can't be done.

You did giver a whirl and as much as others may view this as an argument, it has actually brought out some good strong market talk.

Win:Win

Really.
Money Can't Buy Happiness. Poverty Can't Buy SHIT! You Choose!
  • #866,933
  • Dec 31, 2013 11:48am Dec 31, 2013 11:48am
Quoting Magix
{quote} Vega has also provided the theory on STOP LOSS HUNTS, HERE. Though he does not quote reference, the idea of this, makes infinitely more sense than does your theory behind the same Unicorn.
its Miss Vega.....(she)

here you go.........

http://schiffblog.blogspot.com/2013/...eak-hands.html
http://www.investopedia.com/terms/w/weakshorts.asp
http://www.investopedia.com/terms/w/weaklongs.asp

I usually dont post anything online I can't support with a reference
Markets are not efficient, rather they are effective - Jones
  • #866,934
  • Dec 31, 2013 12:00pm Dec 31, 2013 12:00pm
Did you guys read " Mind over markets by Dalton? Any good?
Wherever you go, there you are.
  • #866,935
  • Dec 31, 2013 12:02pm Dec 31, 2013 12:02pm
Quoting mzvega
{quote} its Miss Vega.....(she) here you go......... http://schiffblog.blogspot.com/2013/...eak-hands.html http://www.investopedia.com/terms/w/weakshorts.asp http://www.investopedia.com/terms/w/weaklongs.asp I usually dont post anything online I can't support with a reference

Dammit!

That's like the 5th time this year I have made that mistake.

Sorry, Miss Vega.


Thanks for the references and all of your input!

Happy New Year!
Money Can't Buy Happiness. Poverty Can't Buy SHIT! You Choose!
  • #866,936
  • Dec 31, 2013 12:05pm Dec 31, 2013 12:05pm
Quoting Magix
{quote} Dammit! That's like the 5th time this year I have made that mistake. Sorry, Miss Vega. Thanks for the references and all of your input! Happy New Year!
Thank You!, Same to you, unfortunately, I still have 12 more hours to go........
Markets are not efficient, rather they are effective - Jones
  • #866,937
  • Dec 31, 2013 12:15pm Dec 31, 2013 12:15pm
Quoting milam
Did you guys read " Mind over markets by Dalton? Any good?
yes, I have read them all........yes it is the most informative, imo. "Value based power trading", is great also, but the author suggests reading Mind over Markets as a prerequisite. MOM is authored by Dalton, Jones, & Dalton. "Value based" is authored by Donald Jones ( the father of the Eric Jones from MOM's). Don jones with data testing, takes it to a different level..........
Markets are not efficient, rather they are effective - Jones
  • #866,938
  • Dec 31, 2013 12:19pm Dec 31, 2013 12:19pm
Quoting mzvega
{quote} yes, I have read them all........yes it is the most informative, imo. "Value based power trading", is great also, but the author suggests reading Mind over Markets as a prerequisite. MOM is authored by Dalton, Jones, & Dalton. "Value based" is authored by Donald Jones ( the father of the Eric Jones from MOM's). Don jones with data testing, takes it to a different level..........
Thank you……On my list….

Happy New Year Miss Vega.
Wherever you go, there you are.
  • #866,939
  • Dec 31, 2013 12:30pm Dec 31, 2013 12:30pm
Quoting artocarpus
{quote} latvia with the 1,9 million ppl is nothing for eurozone. i hope you don't trade based on this, its a deep bearish market after FED taper and ECB cut rate, fundamentals always win at the end. 3M (market makers manipulators) seems already tired
1.9m bank accounts is a large order , either way.
  • #866,940
  • Dec 31, 2013 12:31pm Dec 31, 2013 12:31pm
Quoting milam
{quote} Thank you……On my list…. Happy New Year Miss Vega.
You too!!! Go here and read the "references & research " Some of the best info out. Everything there is supported by beta testing. Not an easy site to navigate, but its the richest source of AMT research imo........

http://www.cisco-futures.com/

here's a good link to start with http://www.cisco-futures.com/references.html
Markets are not efficient, rather they are effective - Jones
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