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  • #866,901
  • Dec 31, 2013 11:37am Dec 31, 2013 11:37am
Quoting Magix
{quote}
since you are giggling, it is clear you have no idea how it works
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  • #866,902
  • Dec 31, 2013 11:44am Dec 31, 2013 11:44am
Quoting Magix
{quote} So, uh.... If it was institutions and people parked with stop losses, who were the big boys driving the bus? The retailers? The credit card companies, clearing exchange rates? No wonder I stick with Technicals. I'm obviously not in the same league as the tinfoil hat patrol.

Did I say "all institutions"?

On a lower volume day like that day, especially when some already had closed their books, such momentum ignition for example can be fabricated by some HFT traders alone.

It gets more and more stupid..........


Why do you think they choose exactly that day to drive the price 200 pips, when the ADR was around 70 for days?
  • #866,903
  • Dec 31, 2013 11:51am Dec 31, 2013 11:51am
Quoting ffleo
{quote} since you are giggling, it is clear you have no idea how it works
No, I am not giggling, I am flat out laughing at your attempts at market wisdom.

Your idea of market correlation trading is laughable.

I understand the speed of play and have posted on the subject before.
This doesn't mean that because UJ is currently going up, that cable will fall...It means it may not go up as fast.

The GBP move is GBP showing strength...if you were wanting to measure, and not assume a market reversal like most newbies, you would have stated that because USDJPY is going up, the Dragon would be a better bet, long.
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  • #866,904
  • Dec 31, 2013 11:53am Dec 31, 2013 11:53am
hey guys, I posted this the day you're talking about....

Quoting attila
For whoever has to have a reason.. not sure it matters anymore.. http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...0K618O20131227
  • #866,905
  • Dec 31, 2013 11:56am Dec 31, 2013 11:56am
Quoting Magix
{quote} No, I am not giggling, I am flat out laughing at your attempts at market wisdom. Your idea of market correlation trading is laughable. I understand the speed of play and have posted on the subject before. This doesn't mean that because UJ is currently going up, that cable will fall...It means it may not go up as fast. The GBP move is GBP showing strength...if you were wanting to measure, and not assume a market reversal like most newbies, you would have stated that because USDJPY is going up, the Dragon would be a better bet, long. {image}...
you even have difficulty in reading comprehension. I said if he goes short GJ, cable is a better choice than GJ.

you cannot even read properly, what is the point even to argue with you?? my goodness.
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  • #866,906
  • Dec 31, 2013 12:00pm Dec 31, 2013 12:00pm
Quoting infinitus
Why do you think they choose exactly that day to drive the price 200 pips, when the ADR was around 70 for days?
On the point that this is getting stupider with each reply...

I have stated and shown actual market analysis that a 200 pip move in trend, is not out of the ordinary.
I have since September of this year, right through November been posting reasons why Shorting EURUSD is a bad idea.
I have also shown where there are no more buyers on a daily and weekly chart and given the time of the year, expecting an all out breakout is also lunacy.
I have also shown where market can reverse on a volume spike right down to the M1 charts.

Technically, my standpoint is sound!

You have provided ambiguous information on who "might" have done "something" and have admitted that you "cannot confirm this".

Where my technicals reign, your theory falls apart.

So, I will stand behind my Analysis in stating that from a technical standpoint, shorting into an uptrend is a bad idea and that because nobody can really know who is driving the bus, it is better to stick with the trend or sit sidelines than is to try and fight against. Justification as to why it happened is Moot.

Agreed?
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  • #866,907
  • Dec 31, 2013 12:01pm Dec 31, 2013 12:01pm
Quoting ffleo
{quote} you even have difficulty in reading comprehension. I said if he goes short GJ, cable is a better choice than GJ. you cannot even read properly, what is the point even to argue with you?? my goodness.
No argument.

You are continuing to humiliate yourself.
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  • #866,908
  • Dec 31, 2013 12:01pm Dec 31, 2013 12:01pm
Quoting Magix
{quote} Great piece of, "out of context", information. Instead of trying to support your own lunacy, you decide this is the way to go? Stating that you are better because you don't agree with something I said? Yet, you failed to answer 2 simple questions.... {quote} Why not really put me in my place here, Champ? Why not at least try to provide a single SHRED of evidence, on your own? If you are the mystical magical market man, I will give you credit where the credit is due. Until then, all you have done is offer up unsubstantiated claims and inaccurate...

well, we can repeat it again and again and again:

a) 380 was defended with quite good volume beforehand

b) when now someone wants to get over this barrier, it would be wise to do it at a lower volume day, when not all market participants were there

c) to get the price jumping into the barrier can be done by several techniques, one of them is momentum ignition


d) as you already stated: what is at no demand / no supply areas? Price gets rejected very quick, but offered the attacker to unload at higher prices and short from higher levels (using the offers placed behind the 38x)



Yes, it was in direction of trend, but was certainly also fabricated AT THAT TIME. What is so hard to understand here?

Well, certainly we can believe in the Santa, the Easter Bunny as well in your EMA20/200 meme, which caused the spike (waiting for evidence for that "system", still)


  • #866,909
  • Dec 31, 2013 12:07pm Dec 31, 2013 12:07pm
Quoting attila
hey guys, I posted this the day you're talking about.... {quote}

It's gotta be bullshit, attilla.

The quite obvious and rigorously defended position of Stop Loss hunt, never made that page.

Who are you going to believe?

FFleo or Reuters?

Especially with all of the empirical evidence provided by Markus.

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  • #866,910
  • Dec 31, 2013 12:08pm Dec 31, 2013 12:08pm
Quoting Magix
{quote} On the point that this is getting stupider with each reply... I have stated and shown actual market analysis that a 200 pip move in trend, is not out of the ordinary. I have since September of this year, right through November been posting reasons why Shorting EURUSD is a bad idea. I have also shown where there are no more buyers on a daily and weekly chart and given the time of the year, expecting an all out breakout is also lunacy. I have also shown where market can reverse on a volume spike right down to the M1 charts. Technically, my...

Again bad analysis, since you are not able to give statistical evidence to your EMA20/200 meme

My statement from the beginning was not, that price was driven up by stop hunting, but it was, that stop hunting can happen in both trending as well as countertrend direction.

I am sure you have now really an understanding problem


And the whole conclusion of your above cited post

"that I am wrong because I can not proof that it was SL hunt, therefore your analysis must be correct" is again

post hoc ergo propter hoc - fallacy


where the circle closes and we are again at the start, where you made the same fault



Sorry, I can not help you anymore
  • #866,911
  • Dec 31, 2013 12:09pm Dec 31, 2013 12:09pm
Quoting infinitus
{quote} well, we can repeat it again and again and again: a) 380 was defended with quite good volume beforehand b) when now someone wants to get over this barrier, it would be wise to do it at a lower volume day, when not all market participants were there c) to get the price jumping into the barrier can be done by several techniques, one of them is momentum ignition d) as you already stated: what is at no demand / no supply areas? Price gets rejected very quick, but offered the attacker to unload at higher prices and short from higher levels (using...
hi infy, let us move on. you cannot turn a rock into a diamond.

And Happy New Year.
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  • #866,912
  • Dec 31, 2013 12:10pm Dec 31, 2013 12:10pm
ROFL..

creative way to celebrate NEW Year.. I have to "admit" ..

anyway,,,


all the best to all of you !!

Happy NEW 2014

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  • #866,913
  • Dec 31, 2013 12:12pm Dec 31, 2013 12:12pm
I'm lost since the last 5 pages, don't understand a word haha

Anyway happy new year to all of you and see you next year!
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  • #866,914
  • Dec 31, 2013 12:14pm Dec 31, 2013 12:14pm
Quoting infinitus
{quote} ... I am sure you have now really an understanding problem ....
reading problem is the main cause. if one cannot read properly, how can one understand things properly?
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  • #866,915
  • Dec 31, 2013 12:16pm Dec 31, 2013 12:16pm
Quoting Piters
ROFL.. creative way to celebrate NEW Year.. I have to "admit" .. anyway,,, all the best to all of you !! Happy NEW 2014
hey mate, happy new year. looking forward to reading more on your journal. your last trade on GJ was a good one
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  • #866,916
  • Dec 31, 2013 12:16pm Dec 31, 2013 12:16pm
Quoting ffleo
{quote} happy new year to you too. if you short g/j, the better chance would be cable. UJ is going up. Even if GJ stalls, cable is going down from UJ going up.
Correlations are a bit out dated these days mate.
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  • #866,917
  • Dec 31, 2013 12:18pm Dec 31, 2013 12:18pm
Quoting kuroro001
I'm lost since the last 5 pages, don't understand a word haha Anyway happy new year to all of you and see you next year!
happy new year to you too.
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  • #866,918
  • Dec 31, 2013 12:20pm Dec 31, 2013 12:20pm
Quoting rattyo
{quote} Correlations are a bit out dated these days mate.
it is just to get the direction. it is not very useful for scalping. but it is good for finding swing trade direction.

happy new year Rat.
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  • #866,919
  • Dec 31, 2013 12:22pm Dec 31, 2013 12:22pm
Quoting Piters
ROFL.. creative way to celebrate NEW Year.. I have to "admit" .. anyway,,, all the best to all of you !! Happy NEW 2014 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebQ_87wXvHU#t=26
you moved to Australia?
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  • #866,920
  • Dec 31, 2013 12:26pm Dec 31, 2013 12:26pm
Quoting infinitus
{quote} Again bad analysis, since you are not able to give statistical evidence to your EMA20/200... I can not help you anymore

You are the one who requires a statistical analysis, PDFs and studies...

I made a statement about what routinely happens in market, and within 5 days of that most recent statement, it happened.
Call it a Meme...I call you blatantly ignorant in the face of solid proof. Burying your head in the sand is not a valid response.

Furthermore
Quoting Magix
So, I will stand behind my Analysis in stating that from a technical standpoint, shorting into an uptrend is a bad idea and that because nobody can really know who is driving the bus, it is better to stick with the trend or sit sidelines than is to try and fight against. Justification as to why it happened is Moot. Agreed?
If you cannot agree that sticking with the trend or sitting sidelines is better than fighting it...

Quoting infinitus
I can not help you anymore
You are of no help to anybody.
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