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  • #28,401
  • Dec 27, 2013 8:07am Dec 27, 2013 8:07am
nice trade airbeat

please can you share impressions of the synergy pro method, have you been using it for long? impressions? want to start demoing this in the new year

thanks

Quoting airbeat
I don't normally trade at all during the last two weeks of the year but this trade last night just begged for the taking. So I took it for 93 pips. {image}
  • #28,402
  • Dec 27, 2013 8:10am Dec 27, 2013 8:10am
Hope everyone had a Great Christmas, and hoping for a greater New Year!!
Just downloaded the synergy pro zip file and pasted the files into MT4, I noticed there are 9 diff tpl files, which ones work when/where, or do I need 9 diff template charts for each currency?? I have read the adobe ebook and printed out lots of the pages
  • #28,403
  • Dec 27, 2013 8:41am Dec 27, 2013 8:41am
Quoting blamshakk
nice trade airbeat please can you share impressions of the synergy pro method, have you been using it for long? impressions? want to start demoing this in the new year thanks {quote}

I just loaded the program and have not been using it for trading but just wanted to see how it fits in with my style using only the TMS method. I am all for as simple as possible so I have been trading demo using only the TDI, price action, and support/resistance levels. I am using the 4hr charts exclusively right now and search for only the best setups such as you find in my last trade.

When I have time I will look further into the Synergy pro method but for now I have been very pleased with the results I have been getting following the recommendations that eelfranz started this thread with. Sorry if I am not more helpful. I am new to this system also as I have only been trading it for a few weeks now.

Harry
  • #28,404
  • Dec 27, 2013 10:27am Dec 27, 2013 10:27am
Quoting blamshakk
LFN said they dont repaint, but alter if you switch timeframes. he did not mention repainting on older charts, but that the arrows are recalculated only if timeframes are switched. so if i am scrolling back through say 4h charts, as long as i am not switching timeframes constantly i should get a fair view of the unfolding action. someone correct me if i'm wrong? {quote}
No, you recently put the indicator on the chart so it will put the arrows back in time where the proper place is now, not necessarily where they were at the time. The only thing you can do is forward test it to get the proper idea of how much of a difference the repainting makes. Run it for a couple of days without closing it and mark the chart with vertical lines where the arrows are, then reopen the chart and see where the arrows are then.
  • #28,405
  • Dec 27, 2013 10:44am Dec 27, 2013 10:44am
Quoting blamshakk
nice trade airbeat please can you share impressions of the synergy pro method, have you been using it for long? impressions? want to start demoing this in the new year thanks {quote}

If you look at his chart closely you will see it says All conditions met at 0.8859, following Eelfranz's method airbeat went in at rougly 0.8930 thats an awful lot of pips difference.
  • #28,406
  • Dec 27, 2013 11:22am Dec 27, 2013 11:22am
Quoting Bizzzle
This is trading made simple thread not synergy pro pls can u go to the synergy thread as many newbies will get confused.... forget all these news indictators and study the charts as set out on page one!!! merry Christmas

Quoting lastingwell
I don't think anyone is denying Eelfranz was impressed by the synergy system but he started this thread and called it TMS because he wanted an easier way to trade 1 year after that post, this thread is called TMS and it became very popular because the core of how Eelfranz traded worked on the H4 charts. You only have to backtest to see how Eelfranz's way of trading worked. No need to complicate things if you like H4 charts then try trading like he did and see how you get on. Bizzle is correct this isn't the synergy thread, its the TMS thread. There...
Church! Even the skype room is swarming with ideas to implement Synergy PRO in our trade plan
  • #28,407
  • Dec 27, 2013 11:32am Dec 27, 2013 11:32am
Quoting WDays
{quote} {quote} Church! Even the skype room is swarming with ideas to implement Synergy PRO in our trade plan
Looks to me on inspection that the arrow indicators do no better a job than the age old psar dots!
Price action and MTFA alongside TDI and divergence are all you need.

Happy new year.

Shane.
  • #28,408
  • Dec 27, 2013 12:08pm Dec 27, 2013 12:08pm
Quoting WDays
{quote} {quote} Church! Even the skype room is swarming with ideas to implement Synergy PRO in our trade plan

Well, I don't see why not and that is a good idea.
Both TMS and Synergy are trend trading methods.
There is a trend in every timeframe we look at.

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I am sure there will be plenty to learn and experience among the people in the skype room. Some may eventually developed their personalised system and call it whatever they want, how about an evolutionary ... TMS Pro.
  • #28,409
  • Dec 27, 2013 12:17pm Dec 27, 2013 12:17pm
Quoting blamshakk
LFN said they dont repaint, but alter if you switch timeframes. he did not mention repainting on older charts, but that the arrows are recalculated only if timeframes are switched. so if i am scrolling back through say 4h charts, as long as i am not switching timeframes constantly i should get a fair view of the unfolding action. someone correct me if i'm wrong? {quote}
The APB Arrows indicator works okay.

But the TDI Arrows has an issue when charts are refreshed but it is not critical becasue we execute our trades manually and we trade the price on our charts.
You have to be mindful of the Synergy_Pro TDI which has a different setting for the RSI data and it is not the same as the TMS used TDI which we set to 13,7,34 using the close price data.
You can PM emmanuel7788 because he did extensive tests and he went on to develop TMS-II.
  • #28,410
  • Dec 27, 2013 12:18pm Dec 27, 2013 12:18pm
When you refer to skype room do you mean Joe's one ??
  • #28,411
  • Dec 27, 2013 12:28pm Dec 27, 2013 12:28pm
Quoting handy148
When you refer to skype room do you mean Joe's one ??

who is Joe?

I only know Joe DiNapoli ... a professional trader.
  • #28,412
  • Dec 27, 2013 12:33pm Dec 27, 2013 12:33pm
Quoting vtayha
{quote} Well, I don't see why not and that is a good idea. Both TMS and Synergy are trend trading methods. There is a trend in every timeframe we look at. {image} I am sure there will be plenty to learn and experience among the people in the skype room. Some may eventually developed their personalised system and call it whatever they want, how about an evolutionary ... TMS Pro.
Ohh how I disagree with that chart you posted the point is, TMS is already TMS... There is no need for it to evolve into anything. The way Bizzle, Phx and emmanuel trade is perfectly simple yet very lucrative. Why would you add thousands of arrows, volatilty indicators and all that crap, when all you need is a TDI indi and some knowledge of PA..? I mean, you could, but this isn't what trading made simple is about, is it? Unless I'm mistaken of course, in which case I take everything back. There are truckloads of threads on here, I've seen extremely complicated systems, with different kinds of matrixes and what not... Then there are the clean and simple ones that use no more than 1 indicator.

Quoting handy148
When you refer to skype room do you mean Joe's one ??
Yes, I do
  • #28,413
  • Edited 1:21pm Dec 27, 2013 12:43pm | Edited 1:21pm
Quoting lastingwell
{quote} No, you recently put the indicator on the chart so it will put the arrows back in time where the proper place is now, not necessarily where they were at the time. The only thing you can do is forward test it to get the proper idea of how much of a difference the repainting makes. Run it for a couple of days without closing it and mark the chart with vertical lines where the arrows are, then reopen the chart and see where the arrows are then.
Thank you lastingwell, some people just never listen to any advise...

Happy trading
Give yourself a chance and trade it like it's layed out...
  • #28,414
  • Dec 27, 2013 12:45pm Dec 27, 2013 12:45pm
Quoting WDays
{quote} Ohh how I disagree with that chart you posted the point is, TMS is already TMS... There is no need for it to evolve into anything. The way Bizzle, Phx and emmanuel trade is perfectly simple yet very lucrative. Why would you add thousands of arrows, volatilty indicators and all that crap, when all you need is a TDI indi and some knowledge of PA..? I mean, you could, but this isn't what trading made simple is about, is it? Unless I'm mistaken of course, in which case I take everything back. There are truckloads of threads on here, I've...
Give yourself a chance and trade it like it's layed out...
  • #28,415
  • Dec 27, 2013 12:46pm Dec 27, 2013 12:46pm
Quoting WDays
{quote} Ohh how I disagree with that chart you posted the point is, TMS is already TMS... There is no need for it to evolve into anything. The way Bizzle, Phx and emmanuel trade is perfectly simple yet very lucrative. Why would you add thousands of arrows, volatilty indicators and all that crap, when all you need is a TDI indi and some knowledge of PA..? I mean, you could, but this isn't what trading made simple is about, is it? Unless I'm mistaken of course, in which case I take everything back. There are truckloads of threads on here, I've...
You missed the point what I posted.
Nevermind.
  • #28,416
  • Dec 27, 2013 2:06pm Dec 27, 2013 2:06pm
Quoting blamshakk
LFN said they dont repaint, but alter if you switch timeframes. he did not mention repainting on older charts, but that the arrows are recalculated only if timeframes are switched. so if i am scrolling back through say 4h charts, as long as i am not switching timeframes constantly i should get a fair view of the unfolding action. someone correct me if i'm wrong? {quote}
I see people complaining about indicator repainting. It is normal that when conditions changed that indicator show this..dont you all think that.
Lets say if price made HL and this is uptrend and then next candle made LL this is not uptrend anymore but its possible start of downtrend..so as trader must adapt to PA also indicator adapt to PA and repaint is nothing more than adapt to price. I will complain if indicators do not adapt to this .

I sugest you all not to backtest with F12 because you do not get view as when you trade(another example is when TDI green cross red and next cande green just show bounce green of red), but with MT4 tester and LFH trading simulator .. search paperclip for this. This will give you all indicators view as in trading candle by candle.

Newbee must know that all indicators are just for help and not to blindly follow them, because PA is the king and you must get feel of the market and know that loosers is normal in trading as in other bussineses.
  • #28,417
  • Edited Dec 28, 2013 2:07am Dec 27, 2013 2:19pm | Edited Dec 28, 2013 2:07am
Hi guys, I am trading using H1 Chart with TDI

Here is the result of my pick today

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My chart is a bit complicated. I mix with other system and you can say its sort of like a CHAOS system, but main indication still come from TDI.

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USD/CAD Long

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AUD/USD short

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TDI rejected and bounce downward.

EUR/CHF long

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I just wanna share with the members here that regardless you win or lose at this very moment, the main thing in playing forex is to
get your indication & entry right from now onward, spotting right chart, entry at right time, be it you lose $100,000 or more than that in forex throughour your trading.

You can eventually make back. I will share more H1 trading method pictures if you guys like my entry


The next week will be year 2014, a new year, a new beginning.

In regards to the USD CHF close in loss, actually it is a profitable trade of over 50-60 pips, as this system is on my demo account, I din't really hold it and I close in batch.

I will only continue share if my chart is useful to the rest.
Learn to Trade is Important. Keep your bias & ego aside.
  • #28,418
  • Dec 27, 2013 2:43pm Dec 27, 2013 2:43pm
thanks, i guess i will have to test this out forward demo, good feedback
  • #28,419
  • Dec 27, 2013 3:02pm Dec 27, 2013 3:02pm
Quoting WDays
{quote} Just add Joe Phippard on skype, saying you want to be part of the group, he'll add you
WDays, where on Skype do I "add Joe Phippard"? I'm new to Skype and just now opened an account. Thanks for any help.
  • #28,420
  • Dec 27, 2013 3:18pm Dec 27, 2013 3:18pm
Quoting kolesar007
{quote} I see people complaining about indicator repainting. It is normal that when conditions changed that indicator show this..dont you all think that. Lets say if price made HL and this is uptrend and then next candle made LL this is not uptrend anymore but its possible start of downtrend..so as trader must adapt to PA also indicator adapt to PA and repaint is nothing more than adapt to price. I will complain if indicators do not adapt to this .
Not quite, if price makes a LL, if I close and reopen my charts 100 times or change timeframes and back again there is still a LL there, if I put on an indicator that repaints, the arrow is no longer where it was when re-opening the chart, a big difference between the 2 things. By backtesting an indicator that has repainted the past it does not give a realistic view of that indicator.
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