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  • #28,381
  • Dec 26, 2013 4:57pm Dec 26, 2013 4:57pm
Hey, Cigarguy, I see now that it was Bizzzle who posted the link to Dean's videos! I edited my post. Thanks, Bizzzle.
  • #28,382
  • Dec 26, 2013 5:02pm Dec 26, 2013 5:02pm
Quoting Bizzzle
This is trading made simple thread not synergy pro pls can u go to the synergy thread as many newbies will get confused.... forget all these news indictators and study the charts as set out on page one!!! merry Christmas
Hi Bizzzle,

Totally agreed with you. I have learned a lot from TMS and you guys are awesome in teaching. Thought this thread is turning its attention towards some where else, so thanks for the reminder and hope we keep it simple as name (TMS).

Thanks.
  • #28,383
  • Dec 26, 2013 5:06pm Dec 26, 2013 5:06pm
Quoting cigarguy
{quote} Does not repaint. Most Synergy Pro questions asked here will be answered (A Must Read); http://www.synergyprotrader.com/index_1022012.html Regards, Cigarguy
Thank you Cigarguy.
  • #28,384
  • Dec 26, 2013 5:06pm Dec 26, 2013 5:06pm
Guys, you do not need alot of pips to make alot of money, some people only need to make 10 pips a day, and as you have seen this strategy can easily do that, patience is the key to build up your bank
YOUR MOTHERS ASS
  • #28,385
  • Dec 26, 2013 5:14pm Dec 26, 2013 5:14pm
personally synergy pro in my humble opinion is kind of similar to TMS, just on steroids. after having done manual backtesting on it on H4 charts, seems like a very promising system
  • #28,386
  • Dec 26, 2013 5:29pm Dec 26, 2013 5:29pm
Quoting blamshakk
personally synergy pro in my humble opinion is kind of similar to TMS, just on steroids. after having done manual backtesting on it on H4 charts, seems like a very promising system
Be careful back testing it because the arrows re-print! So what you will see on an old chart is different from when you are trading it live...

Anyway best of luck
Give yourself a chance and trade it like it's layed out...
  • #28,387
  • Dec 26, 2013 6:01pm Dec 26, 2013 6:01pm
Quoting vtayha
{quote} the question is how do we TMS traders identify when market is sideways or range bound. this is open for discussion here, while the market is still going through very low liquidity until the holidays is over. I don't see any 4-hour swing trade opportunities in such low liquidity market condition, probably not until the week03/2014 i.e. starting 13 January 2014 onwards.
Quoting WDays
{quote} Oh, we could argue a little about that, I remember last year when the eurodolla went nuts right around NYE... so there is no rule set in stone here, really... the markets are open, liquidity is just not there and will come back without warning.
Agreed. Liquidity will change anytime.

As for 4H swing trading, I will resume looking for trades in week 03/2014.

Meantime, we can still trade TMS in lower timeframes like Big E would scalp using H4 setup conditions during his trading hours.

We are open for discussion how to identify the market type when it is trending and when it is sideways/range bound. What was the market type in Dec 2012 and what is the market type now Dec 2013.

Good Trading to ALL.
  • #28,388
  • Edited 7:01pm Dec 26, 2013 6:46pm | Edited 7:01pm
First we have Synergy, then came Synergy Advance and now Synergy Pro.

Here folks, read what eelfranz aka Big E has to say about Dean Malone Synergy.

It is in a different thread in the FF Commercial Content section click here.

It will be a great learning experience to know the Synergy model and how it evolved to the Pro version. I started with the Synergy and moved to Synergy Advance 2.0. But I still trade with TMS as my core method and build up my own winning system incorporating a proven money management strategy and developed the mindset to discipline myself. All these I did and achieved with a great trader as my mentor.

Edit: added Big E post comment on Synergy Advance.
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  • #28,389
  • Edited 10:03pm Dec 26, 2013 9:35pm | Edited 10:03pm
Quoting vtayha
First we have Synergy, then came Synergy Advance and now Synergy Pro. Here folks, read what eelfranz aka Big E has to say about Dean Malone Synergy. It is in a different thread in the FF Commercial Content section click here. It will be a great learning experience to know the Synergy model and how it evolved to the Pro version. I started with the Synergy and moved to Synergy Advance 2.0. But I still trade with TMS as my core method and build up my own winning system incorporating...
Good Post! Each trader must make their trading system THEIR OWN and it will continue to evolve as they progress and with the ever changing non-static market conditions.....

Regards,
Cigarguy
Keep It Simple
  • #28,390
  • Dec 27, 2013 2:11am Dec 27, 2013 2:11am
I don't think anyone is denying Eelfranz was impressed by the synergy system but he started this thread and called it TMS because he wanted an easier way to trade 1 year after that post, this thread is called TMS and it became very popular because the core of how Eelfranz traded worked on the H4 charts. You only have to backtest to see how Eelfranz's way of trading worked. No need to complicate things if you like H4 charts then try trading like he did and see how you get on.

Bizzle is correct this isn't the synergy thread, its the TMS thread. There are only a few traders on this thread that use the cross of the tdi and price action as the core of their strategy, phx62 is one, Bizzle, Imi, goochie and a few others use it and they look to be doing very well so why complicate it!
  • #28,391
  • Dec 27, 2013 3:34am Dec 27, 2013 3:34am
well according to other forums and veteran member cigarguy here, the arrows do not repaint, so I will go with that conclusion for the time being until I see anything different

Quoting Bizzzle
{quote} Be careful back testing it because the arrows re-print! So what you will see on an old chart is different from when you are trading it live... Anyway best of luck
  • #28,392
  • Dec 27, 2013 3:36am Dec 27, 2013 3:36am
hey cigarguy can you confirm that the arrows do not repaint? i've watched this for a very limited time forward demo and i dont see evidence of repainting...but bizzle has me slightly worried as he said they do repaint?

Quoting cigarguy
{quote} Does not repaint. Most Synergy Pro questions asked here will be answered (A Must Read); http://www.synergyprotrader.com/index_1022012.html Regards, Cigarguy
  • #28,393
  • Dec 27, 2013 5:15am Dec 27, 2013 5:15am
Quoting Bizzzle
{quote} Be careful back testing it because the arrows re-print! So what you will see on an old chart is different from when you are trading it live... Anyway best of luck
It does not repaint. But if you are changing TF to 1H and the goes back to lets say 4H chart, then the arrows will be recalculated and not the same as before. I read this from Dean earlier, but cant find were I read it right now.
  • #28,394
  • Dec 27, 2013 5:23am Dec 27, 2013 5:23am
Quoting LFN
{quote} It does not repaint. But if you are changing TF to 1H and the goes back to lets say 4H chart, then the arrows will be recalculated and not the same as before. I read this from Dean earlier, but cant find were I read it right now.
This is what I mean, when I say be careful when back-testing as the old charts are different from when trading it live because they recalculate and look very good on old charts!

All I am trying to do is help people here not to lose money!
Give yourself a chance and trade it like it's layed out...
  • #28,395
  • Dec 27, 2013 6:45am Dec 27, 2013 6:45am
Hi,vtayha ，
thank you so much.
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  • #28,396
  • Dec 27, 2013 6:52am Dec 27, 2013 6:52am
Quoting blamshakk
hey cigarguy can you confirm that the arrows do not repaint? i've watched this for a very limited time forward demo and i dont see evidence of repainting...but bizzle has me slightly worried as he said they do repaint? {quote}
They have not repainted on my charts and as quoted by Dean;

"There is only one exception to a disappearing Synergy arrow. If the Synergy Pro user changes the chart to a different time frame and then back to the original time frame or closes and reopens a chart , the Synergy programming code recalculates all the current market conditions and parameters. If the current conditions do not match as the previous, like a market spike in the opposite direction, then an APBA arrow that appeared on the original chart may not reappear on the new updated chart"

At this point I agree with Bizzle and Lastingwell and would like to get on with trading and not discuss the various details of the Synergy Pro indicators and focus on trading TMS including trades made with Synergy Pro but not detailed functions of each indicator. Dean gives very detailed information as to the purpose of each indicator and how to trade with that specific indicator in his PDF and videos.

Just my 2 cents....

Regards.
Cigarguy
Keep It Simple
  • #28,397
  • Dec 27, 2013 6:59am Dec 27, 2013 6:59am
Can somebody tell me where is eelfanz right now , i see he has offline for 2 years now
  • #28,398
  • Dec 27, 2013 7:45am Dec 27, 2013 7:45am
If you'd read the thread you would know he sadly passed away some time ago.
  • #28,399
  • Dec 27, 2013 7:55am Dec 27, 2013 7:55am
I don't normally trade at all during the last two weeks of the year but this trade last night just begged for the taking. So I took it for 93 pips.
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  • #28,400
  • Dec 27, 2013 8:05am Dec 27, 2013 8:05am
LFN said they dont repaint, but alter if you switch timeframes. he did not mention repainting on older charts, but that the arrows are recalculated only if timeframes are switched.

so if i am scrolling back through say 4h charts, as long as i am not switching timeframes constantly i should get a fair view of the unfolding action.

someone correct me if i'm wrong?



Quoting Bizzzle
{quote} This is what I mean, when I say be careful when back-testing as the old charts are different from when trading it live because they recalculate and look very good on old charts! All I am trying to do is help people here not to lose money!
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