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  • #63,341
  • Dec 16, 2013 10:19am Dec 16, 2013 10:19am
GU Comment

As with EU, this could become a Classic short setup. Dragon is angled down and Trend is starting to. The whole number seems to be the key here, as the market might be building short positions in the area, and there is no telling when they will finish and start the price lower. And, it is getting late in the LS. So, not everything is "just right".
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  • #63,342
  • Dec 16, 2013 10:31am Dec 16, 2013 10:31am
AU, Food for Thought
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  • #63,343
  • Dec 16, 2013 10:39am Dec 16, 2013 10:39am
I'm with you on AU, think it will zoom up.
  • #63,344
  • Dec 16, 2013 11:17am Dec 16, 2013 11:17am
Quoting traderathome
AU, Food for Thought {image} {image}
I am with TAH on Au, too.
  • #63,345
  • Dec 16, 2013 11:28am Dec 16, 2013 11:28am
GJ Comment

Sonicers, just a reminder that on H1 the Dragon has crossed down thru the Trend, followed by a PA retrace back towards/into/thru the Dragon, and with all this activity centered around the 168.00 whole number. It sure looks like the market is building short. This could start going lower, maybe to the RWL area, at any time.
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  • #63,346
  • Edited 2:54pm Dec 16, 2013 11:40am | Edited 2:54pm
NU Comment

Since the post earlier about this as a Classic long setup, note that the price was subsequently whacked back down. Also note that it did not get whacked below the half number, which could still happen. The whack job was just a healthy retrace of +62% of previous bull move up. Now the question is, since it is the off hours of the market, will the market makers work the price lower still (below the half number?) to get longs that they can sell for a profit later when the long orders start coming in as the price rises again?

Usually, in the off hours of the market when it is least expensive for the market makers to manipulate prices to where they want them, you can tell by where they take the price what is likely to be going on in the next day. If they move the price lower, it is most likely to gather in cheap longs to resell later for a profit. If they move the price higher, it is most likely to gather in cheap shorts to resell later for a profit. Not always, of course, but within the context of overall PA what the market makers do in off hours can offer some clues as to what they might be preparing for.

If AU goes higher, it is likely this will too. And AU sure looks like it is under Accumulation.
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Edit: Three hours later....... Well, we can see that the market makers manipulated the price below the half number SR and back up. This is a decent sign that the market makers went in search of liquidity to add longs for themselves, longs they will later sell at a profit into the market when the active market starts demanding longs. Also, we know from PVSRA that a dip below key S&R can be a sign the MMs are bulls. This does not mean that the price will only go up from here, but it is an indication the market makers do expect a demand for longs.
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  • #63,347
  • Dec 16, 2013 3:12pm Dec 16, 2013 3:12pm
Hey guys,

CADCHF
Market is in accumulation phase with high volume activity right below 0.83500. On daily graph, market touch lower trendline. Maybe some opportunity for short-term long trade....


BR
Andreyas
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  • #63,348
  • Dec 16, 2013 4:02pm Dec 16, 2013 4:02pm
Quoting traderathome
AU, Food for Thought {image} {image}
AU Comments


TAH, your bullish scenario seems to be too early for me, I miss one more leg down. Though hourly TF is bullish, PA is ranging even if it goes higher.

Once PA closes below the blue line on the daily TF, the orange area seems to be the target area where PA really may exhaust on daily TF - and PVSRA can be used there for confirmation / start building long positions for "early birds".
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Mind the gap
  • #63,349
  • Dec 16, 2013 4:50pm Dec 16, 2013 4:50pm
Quoting Sunbrella
{quote} AU Comments TAH, your bullish scenario seems to be too early for me, I miss one more leg down. Though hourly TF is bullish, PA is ranging even if it goes higher. Once PA closes below the blue line on the daily TF, the orange area seems to be the target area where PA really may exhaust on daily TF - and PVSRA can be used there for confirmation / start building long positions for "early birds". {image}
Sunbrella,

Yes, indeed. And such a move down through the lower whole number to the next lower half number would: 1) retrace PA to area of lowest lows of the triple bottom on the DAY chart, and 2) be a nice final and climatic hit of stops on existing longs, squeezing out a lot of longs and giving that created liquidity over to the MMs to get their long positions filled. It could happen. And it is a good reminder of the truth that while PA might stack up in such a way as to be quite convincing as to what will come next, we cannot ever know how price will move next, nor when trends will reverse.

-tah
  • #63,350
  • Dec 16, 2013 6:02pm Dec 16, 2013 6:02pm
I am currently short 1 standard lot GBP-JPY and opened this position on Friday 13th December @ 169.704.

At present as you can see from the data window this is running at 177.30 pips gains and translates to about $1,707.19 profit.


I intend to hold this position another day and see what happens.
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  • #63,351
  • Dec 16, 2013 6:36pm Dec 16, 2013 6:36pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} AU Nostalgia Long Trade Update: Added longs #11 and 12, Scouts, as the US MMs wacked the price as the USD releases came out. {image}
AU Long Trade Update:

Added longs #13 and 14, Scouts, since last post. On H1 we can see that the price appears to be basing between the half and the lower whole number, with the most recent notable volumes pushing the price back up off of lows. This can mean that the pickings at the lows are slim, but the MMs repeatedly work the price lower simply to drag orders down on the order roster, so when the MMs are ready, they can run back up the roster and capture longs at lower prices. Overall, the most recent PA shows higher lows.
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  • #63,352
  • Dec 16, 2013 7:06pm Dec 16, 2013 7:06pm
Quoting Forex-Forex
I am currently short 1 standard lot GBP-JPY and opened this position on Friday 13th December @ 169.704. At present as you can see from the data window this is running at 177.30 pips gains and translates to about $1,707.19 profit. I intend to hold this position another day and see what happens. {image}
Forex-Forex,

Hello. I see you just joined Forex Factory. And congratulations on your successful GJ trade. However.....

This is the Sonic R. System thread. Here we use few indicators. Indicators and templates are supplied under the TAH link in post #1. This thread is not like other threads where anyone can post per any trading system they have. If you are interested in becoming a Sonicer, and trading the Sonic R. System, you will be most welcomed and hopefully will also become a valued contributor. On the other hand, if you have your own trading system, replete with a myriad of indicators such as you show on your chart (attached), you'd best find yourself another thread to post on, or start your own thread.

This Sonic R. System thread is akin to a manual, or a text book, for folks to learn the Sonic R. System, so I am sure now that you understand this you can either adapt to us, or find another thread more suitable to what you do.
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This is our Sonic R. System template, which as you can see uses just two moving averages and volume. We are focused on PA waves around key S&R with the London session our prime trading time and the M15 our prime trading time frame chart. You can learn about the Sonic R. System by reading everything in post #1 and linked within post #1.
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Sincerely,
-tah
  • #63,353
  • Edited 7:40pm Dec 16, 2013 7:18pm | Edited 7:40pm
AU Comment

The PA in response to recent news and a recent release out of Aussie land is most revealing. The price was lowered, and as it was lowered the trading activity notably increased. This was followed by a "no hold barred" buying spree that sent the price upwards on very high activity. Now that things have settled down, the market makers are working the price lower again. It is obvious from this PA that the market makers are continuously working the price lower after buying sprees so they can load up with more longs to sell for a profit when the next buying spree occurs and they have to meet the demand for longs.

In a word, this is bullish PVA (Price Volume Analysis). Now, tie this together with the fact that most of the trading while price has been ranging is being done below the half number S&R and we have a strong PVSRA (Price Volume Support Resistance Analysis) indication the MMs are bulls.
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  • #63,354
  • Dec 16, 2013 7:46pm Dec 16, 2013 7:46pm
UJ Comment
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  • #63,355
  • Dec 16, 2013 9:11pm Dec 16, 2013 9:11pm
Hello Sonic R traders,

I have been trying to follow this thread, and so far, I have read till post 287. It will take me some time to really catch up to the latest post. Therefore, can anyone please advice on the best way for me to catch up as soon as possible? Should I jump to the last 50 pages, as suggested on post 1? Thank you very much in advance.

I also realise that pvsra is the main analysis in Sonic R. System. So far, I have read a few times, on post 48,015 (PVSRA Tutorial by traderathome), and about to read PVSRA.pdf (post 48,011). Or is there any other previous post that I really should concentrate on, to get a good understanding on pvsra?

Please do advice. Your guidance is very much appreciated. Thank you very much in advance.
  • #63,356
  • Dec 16, 2013 9:14pm Dec 16, 2013 9:14pm
AU Comment

Sonicers, do you all see this high activity at the lows and coming up off of the lows? Note also that it is all happening below the half number! Bullish!
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  • #63,357
  • Dec 16, 2013 9:18pm Dec 16, 2013 9:18pm
EU Long
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  • #63,358
  • Dec 16, 2013 9:26pm Dec 16, 2013 9:26pm
Quoting Avenger999
Hello Sonic R traders, I have been trying to follow this thread, and so far, I have read till post 287. It will take me some time to really catch up to the latest post. Therefore, can anyone please advice on the best way for me to catch up as soon as possible? Should I jump to the last 50 pages, as suggested on post 1? Thank you very much in advance. I also realise that pvsra is the main analysis in Sonic R. System. So far, I have read a few times, on post 48,015 (PVSRA Tutorial by traderathome), and about to read PVSRA.pdf (post 48,011). Or is...
It is recommended that you first read everything in post #1 and linked in post #1. This will include the link to the brief manual for the Sonic R. System. It is also recommended you read the first 25-50 of Sonic's posts to get the idea of the Sonic R. System cemented into you. Once you feel you understand the Sonic R. System Classic trade, you can take on the concept of Scouts and the analysis that is PVSRA. Jump to the most recent month or two and catch up on current posting activity, which will include mention of both the Scout trade and PVSRA.

The key here is to remember that the Sonic R. System is the Classic trade. The Classic trade is what it is all about. Scouts support Classic trades. PVSRA is to see if price action is supporting of a Classic setup, or not.
  • #63,359
  • Dec 16, 2013 9:40pm Dec 16, 2013 9:40pm
GBP/USD

Notable push up during tokyo session. There is an upcoming news release soon and will most likely push the price towards the RDL. We'll see what happens.

Would like some more opinions on this pair.
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Take what the market gives you.
  • #63,360
  • Dec 16, 2013 9:48pm Dec 16, 2013 9:48pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} It is recommended that you first read everything in post #1 and linked in post #1. This will include the link to the brief manual for the Sonic R. System. It is also recommended you read the first 25-50 of Sonic's posts to get the idea of the Sonic R. System cemented into you. Once you feel you understand the Sonic R. System Classic trade, you can take on the concept of Scouts and the analysis that is PVSRA. Jump to the most recent month or two and catch up on current posting activity, which will include mention of both the Scout trade and...
Thank you very much for the advice, traderathome. To finish up on post 1, the only outstanding is pvsra.pdf document. Once I finish that document, I will immediately jump to November 2013 post (being conservative here - 2 mths back). Hope to catch up to the latest post soon.
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