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  • #20,221
  • Dec 12, 2013 12:44am Dec 12, 2013 12:44am
Quoting jalkok
H4 Chart trading: Genesis works on H4 time frame as well. I entered yesterday at 08:53 (German time) and still up 204 pips... {image}
Ok...............you win!! Great trade

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  • #20,222
  • Dec 12, 2013 12:45am Dec 12, 2013 12:45am
Quoting jalkok
H4 Chart trading: Genesis works on H4 time frame as well. I entered yesterday at 08:53 (German time) and still up 204 pips... {image}
I'm confused.....in this post on the TMS thread, you said that you entered following ' "eelfranz rules" strictly and you can buy "a wheelbarrow..." to transport your pips....'
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  • #20,223
  • Dec 12, 2013 12:52am Dec 12, 2013 12:52am
Quoting realjumper
{quote} I'm confused.....in this post on the TMS thread, you said that you entered following ' "eelfranz rules" strictly and you can buy "a wheelbarrow..." to transport your pips....' {image} {image}
Yes, I was just trying that out. Both systems work very well and I`m still in that trade. I could not post the TMS-chart in the Genesis thread.. or you would have thrown me out, right? ...And I would not post a Genesis chart in the TMS thread...
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  • #20,224
  • Dec 12, 2013 12:59am Dec 12, 2013 12:59am
Quoting jalkok
{quote} Yes, I was just trying that out. Both systems work very well and I`m still in that trade. I could not post the TMS-chart in the Genesis thread.. or you would have thrown me out, right? ...And I would not post a Genesis chart in the TMS thread...
And would you have offered this....explanation.....if I had not said anything? Sorry.....it doesn't stack up. To me it seems like outright deception and dishonesty.
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #20,225
  • Dec 12, 2013 1:12am Dec 12, 2013 1:12am
Quoting realjumper
{quote} And would you have offered this....explanation.....if I had not said anything? Sorry.....it doesn't stack up. To me it seems like outright deception and dishonesty.
Why do you mean I am dishonest??? I am trying to get used to H4 trades and I tryed BigE Eelfranz system first and it worked for me. I have now 6 trades open with very little money, all in + and a lot of +pips. I quoted Eelfranz with "Wheelbarrow"etc.
So I tryed out if that works on Genesis too, and it does. What is dishonest there, by trying that?
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  • #20,226
  • Dec 12, 2013 1:17am Dec 12, 2013 1:17am
Quoting jalkok
{quote} Why do you mean I am dishonest??? I am trying to get used to H4 trades and I tryed BigE Eelfranz system first and it worked for me. I have now 6 trades open with very little money, all in + and a lot of +pips. I quoted Eelfranz with "Wheelbarrow"etc. So I tryed out if that works on Genesis too, and it does. What is dishonest there, by trying that?
I would never have posted a TMS H4 chart in the Genesis thread, but you did!
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  • #20,227
  • Dec 12, 2013 1:24am Dec 12, 2013 1:24am
Quoting jalkok
{quote} Why do you mean I am dishonest??? I am trying to get used to H4 trades and I tryed BigE Eelfranz system first and it worked for me. I have now 6 trades open with very little money, all in + and a lot of +pips. I quoted Eelfranz with "Wheelbarrow"etc. So I tryed out if that works on Genesis too, and it does. What is dishonest there, by trying that?
The dishonesty is all there for everyone to see when they read your posts in the TMS thread, especially the one I posted where you tell the people over there that you entered the trade according to the TMS rules. Then you want to pull the wool over our eyes by intimating that the trade was a Genesis trade.

The very fact that we're having this conversation shows that it took me to bring this up......not something that you were going to share with us. You expect people over there to say "wow great TMS trade"...and you expect that people here would say "wow great Genesis trade".

The fact is that you are trading TMS, and that's fine....that's your choice to make....but those trades you speak of are TMS trades, and by coincidence the H4 trade (which is the only one you have shown to the TMS thread despite people asking for the charts to the other trades), happens to line up with the Genesis signals.....as it will with other systems too.

My suggestion to you is to stay in the TMS thread and I wish you good luck and good fortune.....
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #20,228
  • Dec 12, 2013 1:24am Dec 12, 2013 1:24am
Quoting jalkok
{quote} I would never have posted a TMS H4 chart in the Genesis thread, but you did!
You're clearly not the sharpest knife in the drawer are you?
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #20,229
  • Dec 12, 2013 1:53am Dec 12, 2013 1:53am
Quoting Martyfish
{quote} If I was him, I would want to get out of there ASAP !! His reputation, as with Greenspan is in shreds
I think we've hit the point of no return, ie you're not going to get a Volcker to right the mess. Too late.
  • #20,230
  • Dec 12, 2013 2:05am Dec 12, 2013 2:05am
I can't find any info on Draghi's yappin.....I guess we'll have to just play it by ear until the report comes out sometime.....
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  • #20,231
  • Dec 12, 2013 2:12am Dec 12, 2013 2:12am
Hi RJ and others,

I am finding the Genesis system works very well on 3 range bar charts for scalping . If you like, put it beside a 1 min chart and compare it in real time.

cheers...........ECO
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  • #20,232
  • Dec 12, 2013 2:14am Dec 12, 2013 2:14am
Quoting ECO
Hi RJ and others, I am finding the Genesis system works very well on 3 range bar charts for scalping . If you like, put it beside a 1 min chart and compare it in real time. cheers...........ECO
Hi, ECO. Can I know what is 3 range bar charts? Can you upload it? thanks!
  • #20,233
  • Dec 12, 2013 2:17am Dec 12, 2013 2:17am
Quoting realjumper
{quote} The dishonesty is all there for everyone to see when they read your posts in the TMS thread, especially the one I posted where you tell the people over there that you entered the trade according to the TMS rules. Then you want to pull the wool over our eyes by intimating that the trade was a Genesis trade. The very fact that we're having this conversation shows that it took me to bring this up......not something that you were going to share with us. You expect people over there to say "wow great TMS trade"...and you expect that people here...
Dear RJ, I posted my open trades on TMS thread, okay. (I only stated before that Genesis works on H4 very well too)
Well I now trade short term trades as Geneses method and long term H4 mixed as TMS and Genesis . I hope I can stay in the Genesis thread?
Thanks in advance...
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  • #20,234
  • Dec 12, 2013 2:24am Dec 12, 2013 2:24am
Quoting Gold Miner
{quote} Hi, ECO. Can I know what is 3 range bar charts? Can you upload it? thanks!
Use the search function and/or google.....there's lots of information on range bars both here at FF and outside
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  • #20,235
  • Dec 12, 2013 2:24am Dec 12, 2013 2:24am
Quoting RainyDay1
{quote} I think we've hit the point of no return, ie you're not going to get a Volcker to right the mess. Too late.
Oh how we wish there was another Volker out there.

And we had those in charge to appoint another "Volker".

But then the cards would collapse if we did
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  • #20,236
  • Dec 12, 2013 2:26am Dec 12, 2013 2:26am
Quoting ECO
Hi RJ and others, I am finding the Genesis system works very well on 3 range bar charts for scalping . If you like, put it beside a 1 min chart and compare it in real time. cheers...........ECO
That's good to know. Personally I don't use range bar charts.....I tried them in the past but never really liked them.
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #20,237
  • Dec 12, 2013 2:30am Dec 12, 2013 2:30am
Quoting jalkok
{quote} Dear RJ, I posted my open trades on TMS thread, okay. (I only stated before that Genesis works on H4 very well too) Well I now trade short term trades as Geneses method and long term H4 mixed as TMS and Genesis . I hope I can stay in the Genesis thread? Thanks in advance...
I haven't kicked you out otherwise you wouldn't have been able to post!

It makes no difference to me what system you use to trade, just be honest about it. You entered that H4 trade based on TMS rules, and that's fine. Just don't try to also sell it to us that it was a genuine Genesis trade. Ok?
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  • #20,238
  • Edited 3:13am Dec 12, 2013 2:41am | Edited 3:13am
GM - been rather busy - two trades taken on EurJpy and GbpUsd. I've tried Olivia's method, but that overwrites the chart which then has to be re-set which messes up my S&R levels, so I may just change profiles for posting.....However, given the recent comments about confusing newbies, I'll wait to see if RJ wishes me to stop posting volume and range...

Both trades were after a signal on the 5m chart and then waiting for the 1m to line up.
With GbpUsd, I don't like trading during the first part of FH unless it is trending into FO, so I waited until 7:31 when price started to move up and then bought.

Edit: Gbp exit was in a WRB with very high volume close an S&R level shown on the 5m chart and MR 1

EurJpy had a WRB with HV in its 7:29 candle, but on 10 pips only offer, so patience.
07:34 Into the 5m S&R level and MR 2 > 20 pips available, so bank as its still pre LO
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  • #20,239
  • Dec 12, 2013 2:42am Dec 12, 2013 2:42am
Quoting realjumper
{quote} I haven't kicked you out otherwise you wouldn't have been able to post! It makes no difference to me what system you use to trade, just be honest about it. You entered that H4 trade based on TMS rules, and that's fine. Just don't try to also sell it to us that it was a genuine Genesis trade. Ok?
Okay, I edited my post #20222 but I never said it was a genuine Genesis trade. But I should have said that I compared and that`s allowed I hope...
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  • #20,240
  • Dec 12, 2013 2:44am Dec 12, 2013 2:44am
Quoting realjumper
{quote} Use the search function and/or google.....there's lots of information on range bars both here at FF and outside
OK.noted.
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