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  • #20,201
  • Dec 11, 2013 4:22am Dec 11, 2013 4:22am
Quoting strada
{quote} One last point on this. For me the method is based on the stoch 11,3,3 and it has proved itself over time so it's paramount that this is maintained in whatever guise the stochs appear. What I wanted was a stoch indicator that gave me exactly that but in real time. As I said earlier I checked the ultra indie out over some time and the values are always in line with a standard 5 & 15 min stoch with the 11,,3,3 settings. As for the value they have that is more a personal matter. I get to see all the elements of the genesis system, and absolutely...
If you feel that they are beneficial to your trading...then that's all that matters. It's you trading for you, so you do what you feel is best for you. The most important thing is taking the banks money....and your trade was a great example of taking the banks money

I'll post a link in the next post that shows the easy way to post charts that 'conform', no matter how you do it personally.
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #20,202
  • Dec 11, 2013 4:27am Dec 11, 2013 4:27am
Here is a post from Olivia where she shows the easy way to post a 'standard Genesis' chart, regardless of what you use on your charts at home. I do this when I post charts that don't quite conform, that way the thread stays clean for the people yet to arrive here.

I think it's fair to say that as we all get better at the basic system, we add, remove or otherwise change things to suit us personally......and we should...because we are all individuals. FOM does it, PM1 does it and many others too....but we all need to try and post charts that conform so that people who are coming to the thread as new users of Genesis can see some consistency.

It doesn't mean 'don't post your charts'...it just means that there is a way to post charts so that we have consistency.
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #20,203
  • Dec 11, 2013 7:23am Dec 11, 2013 7:23am
Good morning, evening, and night G family..

Its good to be back here with everyone it has been awhile.



Thanks RJ and the G family!!

good luck to everybody and Let take the banks $$$
  • #20,204
  • Dec 11, 2013 9:01am Dec 11, 2013 9:01am
OK I've removed all non Genesis extras using Olivia's useful short cut - we never stop learning

First trade after NY Open 1

5m chart 13:25 another buy signal.

1m chart 13:29 gmt, 5m stoch opening again, price > green 25 ema buy 141.31

14:09 now > 20 pips available in WRB with V High volume heading for todays DP - close half +24

next 3 candles fail to go higher, so close remainder for the same and look for more action around NYO 2 - NYSE
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Trading Levels with WRBs
  • #20,205
  • Dec 11, 2013 9:08am Dec 11, 2013 9:08am
Just coming across the wires:

Reports from NY "think tank" that due to strong economic data, there are strong arguments for the Fed to begin tapering at their next meeting
I am a fallible imperfect person; so I must be a fallible imperfect trader.
  • #20,206
  • Dec 11, 2013 9:17am Dec 11, 2013 9:17am
Quoting Martyfish
Just coming across the wires: Reports from NY "think tank" that due to strong economic data, there are strong arguments for the Fed to begin tapering at their next meeting
I noticed that too - not a lot of reaction so far

also talk that Helicopter Ben may resign and hand over to Yelland next week's meeting...
Trading Levels with WRBs
  • #20,207
  • Dec 11, 2013 1:12pm Dec 11, 2013 1:12pm
Quoting Islander
{quote}also talk that Helicopter Ben may resign and hand over to Yelland next week's meeting...
If I was him, I would want to get out of there ASAP !!

His reputation, as with Greenspan is in shreds
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  • #20,208
  • Dec 11, 2013 3:02pm Dec 11, 2013 3:02pm
Quoting Martyfish
{quote} If I was him, I would want to get out of there ASAP !! His reputation, as with Greenspan is in shreds
Tell me who's reputation in US gov is doing good these days?
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  • #20,209
  • Dec 11, 2013 6:12pm Dec 11, 2013 6:12pm
For traders of the Kiwi crosses....Mr Wheeler is yappin, so the Kiwi may move. He's a bit of a clown is Mr Wheeler, he hasn't really made any right moves yet...no reason to think he'll begin today!
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #20,210
  • Dec 11, 2013 6:15pm Dec 11, 2013 6:15pm
Quoting doitamg
Good morning, evening, and night G family.. Its good to be back here with everyone it has been awhile. Thanks RJ and the G family!! good luck to everybody and Let take the banks $$$
Good to see you back here....not much of the trading year left, but a new year will begin before the hang over is cured!
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #20,211
  • Dec 11, 2013 7:51pm Dec 11, 2013 7:51pm
Quoting realjumper
{quote} 11,3,3 works great for stochs of the same TF as the chart they are on. It's when we get into MTF that the problems arise. Either we put up with the delay that necessarily has to be present or we find another way. I haven't tried your stochs, but a first impression makes me wonder how much value they have? Let me check them out (perhaps tomorrow) and see how it goes.....
In reference to Stradas Ultra Stoch idea, I did a bit of looking around this morning and took these two screen shots.

Technically speaking its not an Indi supplied by the Genesis team, But it seems very very similar and more accurate. Straight away I am seeing the REAL TIME value in it. Any thoughts??

Regards
Anthm
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  • #20,212
  • Dec 11, 2013 8:14pm Dec 11, 2013 8:14pm
I have no idea what happen here right now....
  • #20,213
  • Dec 11, 2013 8:20pm Dec 11, 2013 8:20pm
Quoting anthm
{quote} In reference to Stradas Ultra Stoch idea, I did a bit of looking around this morning and took these two screen shots. Technically speaking its not an Indi supplied by the Genesis team, But it seems very very similar and more accurate. Straight away I am seeing the REAL TIME value in it. Any thoughts?? Regards Anthm {image} {image}

Well...sorry to have to say this, but what we have now is a perfect example of why i will not allow outside indicators on this thread. I opened to 'door' just a crack, and people want to start posting untested indicators, which is against the rules of Post #1

It is impossible to see "REAL TIME" value in anything without extensive testing. Everything on Genesis has been tested for not less than 4 continuous weeks and has proved itself in all kinds of markets and under all conditions....and this is why the indicators as supplied are the ONLY ones that have been permitted on this thread.

For the umpteenth time.....what you use on your home platform is entirely up to you, and just yesterday i provided a link to show how you can post your charts and still conform to the rules.

This is not a thread for testing new indicators....it is a thread for trading the Genesis system as it is.....using the indicators supplied or any that Xaphod has supplied on his thread.

As the saying goes "give an inch and they will take a mile"....my fault for giving the inch.

So, from here on in, the rules as per Post #1 will be enforced:

1. No indicators other than those supplied in the zip file below, or in the Genesis System Tools thread as developed for us by Xaphod are to be used without the prior consent from one of the Genesis team. You may change the colours of the indicators on the template if you wish.

RJ
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #20,214
  • Dec 11, 2013 8:26pm Dec 11, 2013 8:26pm
Quoting realjumper
{quote} Well...sorry to have to say this, but what we have now is a perfect example of why i will not allow outside indicators on this thread. I opened to 'door' just a crack, and people want to start posting untested indicators, which is against the rules of Post #1 It is impossible to see "REAL TIME" value in anything without extensive testing. Everything on Genesis has been tested for not less than 4 continuous weeks and has proved itself in all kinds of markets and under all conditions....and this is why the indicators as supplied are the ONLY...
All understood, quite right , and apologies.
Kind Regards
Anthm
When you're in the land of HOPE, you're done, get out of there, WALK AWAY
  • #20,215
  • Dec 11, 2013 8:35pm Dec 11, 2013 8:35pm
Quoting anthm
{quote} All understood, quite right , and apologies. Kind Regards Anthm
It's no problem Ant.....I just have to stop this now before the thread gets full of outside indicators.

I've made this point several times on the thread, but again, newbies to our system need to see consistency in our system if they are to have any hope of becoming profitable. There are so many systems here that have morphed into something other than how it started out and this is confusing to the newbies.

Throughout the thread there have been many, many charts posted....all using the same indicators, and showing (mostly) good profits. The various methods of trading (M1, M5, 515) have all be done using the system without any outside indicators which show that the system is profitable...very profitable as it is.

So for the sake of people yet to come who may be struggling with FX trading....we MUST keep the system intact. If this thread becomes like many others here at FF, then the only winners will be the brokers.

RJ
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #20,216
  • Dec 11, 2013 9:05pm Dec 11, 2013 9:05pm
Quoting realjumper
{quote} It's no problem Ant.....I just have to stop this now before the thread gets full of outside indicators. I've made this point several times on the thread, but again, newbies to our system need to see consistency in our system if they are to have any hope of becoming profitable. There are so many systems here that have morphed into something other than how it started out and this is confusing to the newbies. Throughout the thread there have been many, many charts posted....all using the same indicators, and showing (mostly) good profits. The...
How very true.

PM1
  • #20,217
  • Dec 11, 2013 9:10pm Dec 11, 2013 9:10pm
Yeah, don't let people confuse...
  • #20,218
  • Dec 11, 2013 10:37pm Dec 11, 2013 10:37pm
Be wary folks, that at LO, our good friend Draghi :

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Due to speak about European Central Bank policy at the European Parliament debate, in Strasbourg;
1 pip at a time ... if the entries are strong, the rest will follow ...
  • #20,219
  • Edited Dec 12, 2013 2:37am Dec 11, 2013 11:39pm | Edited Dec 12, 2013 2:37am
H4 Chart trading: Genesis works on H4 time frame as well. I entered yesterday at 08:53 (German time) and still up 204 pips...
I only converted this chart to Genesis from a TMS chart.
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  • #20,220
  • Dec 11, 2013 11:59pm Dec 11, 2013 11:59pm
Considering topic of backtesting was touched a little recently, thought it may be interesting:

I found some Strategy Tester that supports every indicator you like. The main problem is - in case 'custom' it must be re-programmed in a Tester's language...
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