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  • #861,801
  • Dec 9, 2013 5:55am Dec 9, 2013 5:55am
Quoting Cowboy11
Ding dong till tomorrow.

what u mean by ding dong?
  • #861,802
  • Dec 9, 2013 6:06am Dec 9, 2013 6:06am
Quoting Schickeria
{quote} You are happy to discuss with me about the slippage and requotes, but I'm NOT. I prefer agency model, and not setting slippage and requotes. I don't want to discuss about slippage, requotes......and I don't want to make an advertisement for a broker. Only what i wan't to say, my broker has a ultra-fast execution and works very well without ANY problems. There are two standard ways to execute trading orders: “Fill or Kill” or “Fill or Fill”. The vast majority of Market Makers do not enable “Fill or Fill” and instead abuse from the “Kill”...
Ouch...

Good response mate...
  • #861,803
  • Dec 9, 2013 6:15am Dec 9, 2013 6:15am
It's going to make 3730 support in next few hours.
You cannot learn better without losing
  • #861,804
  • Dec 9, 2013 6:21am Dec 9, 2013 6:21am
Quoting forexings
It's going to make 3730 support in next few hours.

so seat belt on for the rocket ! -)
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  • #861,805
  • Dec 9, 2013 6:30am Dec 9, 2013 6:30am
Quoting Schickeria
{quote} I was once at Alpari and I had the biggest problems with the broker. Re-quotes, I could not close the order with 5-6 clicks etc. surprises are not excluded
I know they had some issues with their classic accounts. I'm now trading Pro account and overall I'm satisfied. I think most brokers have issues from time to time. Alpari is in my opinion one of the better brokers that I know of.
  • #861,806
  • Dec 9, 2013 6:37am Dec 9, 2013 6:37am
Quoting nicklam66
do we short or long eur?
no one will play for you, so just make a decision and take a deep breath in! -)
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  • #861,807
  • Dec 9, 2013 6:37am Dec 9, 2013 6:37am
Quoting Miguel.N
{quote} so seat belt on for the rocket ! -) {image}
everyday more convinced no one has to know big tecnhical analisys to trade, most of article writers teaching us how to trade live from a salary and work writing articles as webmasters using "joomla" in banks and many finance companies, maybe trading its just has solid money managemente system and apply 1-2-3 exit recovery plan if something goes wrong.
  • #861,808
  • Dec 9, 2013 6:37am Dec 9, 2013 6:37am
Quoting Miguel.N
{quote} so seat belt on for the rocket ! -) {image}

Did you put ur money on this? Sorry just asking
Keep the Lights on then you can catch the rise from the dark.
  • #861,809
  • Dec 9, 2013 6:40am Dec 9, 2013 6:40am
Quoting attila
I think 3731 should be the top of this move.. I will look for signs to short from there.. I also think Monday will be a WTF day with a possible drop to 3660 and then further to 3600... Anyway, I'll be careful with any longs around that 3731 area.
Watching the PA for weakness..
  • #861,810
  • Dec 9, 2013 6:41am Dec 9, 2013 6:41am
Quoting Miguel.N
{quote} so seat belt on for the rocket ! -) {image}
... wow ... green arrows again how's your short going (EUR/AUD)... still lucky to survive ??? ... or did you change your view perhaps ... again ???
  • #861,811
  • Dec 9, 2013 6:51am Dec 9, 2013 6:51am
Quoting attila
{quote} Watching the PA for weakness..
I actually think it will do the opposite. rally till 1.3760 before stopping. if it reverses it will be a small reverse. don't live in dreamland. where did you see 3660
  • #861,812
  • Dec 9, 2013 6:52am Dec 9, 2013 6:52am
IMHO shorting is not a good idea ... Indexes, metals and most risk currencies are bouncing !
"It's the Margin, Stupid."
  • #861,813
  • Dec 9, 2013 6:53am Dec 9, 2013 6:53am
Quoting giveachance
{quote} I actually think it will do the opposite. rally till 1.3760 before stopping. if it reverses it will be a small reverse. don't live in dreamland. where did you see 3660
don't worry about it.
  • #861,814
  • Dec 9, 2013 6:55am Dec 9, 2013 6:55am
Quoting attila
{quote} don't worry about it.
  • #861,815
  • Dec 9, 2013 6:55am Dec 9, 2013 6:55am
Quoting attila
{quote} don't worry about it.
  • #861,816
  • Dec 9, 2013 7:14am Dec 9, 2013 7:14am
Hi Schickeria,

Quoting Schickeria
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...40#post7144840 You are happy to discuss with me about the slippage and requotes, but I'm NOT. I prefer agency model, and not setting slippage and requotes. I don't want to discuss about slippage, requotes......and I don't want to make an advertisement for a broker. Only what i wan't to say, my broker has a ultra-fast execution and works very well without ANY problems. There are two standard ways to execute trading orders: “Fill or Kill” or “Fill or Fill”. The vast majority of Market Makers...
I'm sorry you feel this way.

As stated in my previous post, if you'd like to opt out for an account without re-quotes, your alternative is a Direct Market Access Account (DMA). We refer to this as a Pro account.


Quoting Schickeria
As you can see a fair broker, don't have a setting of slippage.
Slippage is not an invention of the retail FX market. It exists in the Inter-Bank FX market and has done even as far back as when the principal method of trading was by shouting.

To add some background, orders are never guaranteed because if volatility is high, prices can be missed and we may not be able to obtain a quote for you at the price you requested. Orders are also sometimes filled away from the desired price due to gaps in the market. This occurs because currency prices can sometimes be very volatile or liquidity can be thin.

Part of the problem here lies around the execution conventions of certain order types. The convention around Stop Loss orders is that they are open-ended. There is a risk of slippage that is determined by the prices available in the market, but the understanding has always been that these are an "at best" order – because as painful as some slippage might be, it might be a lot more painful if the order just isn't filled at all.

With Stop orders you have to remember that, by definition, you will always be trading in the direction of least liquidity – and some slippage should be factored in. FX is remarkably uncomplicated in this regard. It always follows the path of least resistance. Occasionally this slippage might be modest, but the realistic fact is that when you trade at the point of greatest uncertainty there is no way to pre-define your risk. A Stop Loss is not an inoculation against risk, nor is it a means of transferring your risk to your broker.

The common complaint around slippage really boils down to individuals unhappy that no-one wanted to sell cheaply to them in a rising market or buy at a high price from them in a falling one.

This is not an uncommon criticism, but you need to consider the other side of the equation, which is quite simply -what's in it for them ?
By what right does any participant in the market feel he should be able to force his counter-party to trade at a price that doesn't suit him ?


Alex

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Alexander Chadwick
Alpari (UK) Representative
  • #861,817
  • Dec 9, 2013 7:18am Dec 9, 2013 7:18am
Quoting Alpari UK
Hi Schickeria, {quote} I'm sorry you feel this way. As stated in my previous post, if you'd like to opt out for an account without re-quotes, your alternative is a Direct Market Access Account (DMA). We refer to this as a Pro account. {quote} Slippage is not an invention of the retail FX market. It exists in the Inter-Bank FX market and has done even as far back as when the principal method of trading was by shouting....
ok tell me one thing. why do requotes happen when you sell a buy order at higher price and when the price comes down in 2-4 mins requotes will not occur. I think this is a strategy by brokers to loot people. when the requotes happens at a higher price actually the order is executed but the order is shown as open. this order is being bought by the broker himself and when the requotes don't happen the order which is executed is the broker's order getting executed first. this is my observation
  • #861,818
  • Dec 9, 2013 7:19am Dec 9, 2013 7:19am
Quoting usman ashraf
today ecb announce cut rate ready to decline in euro

who gives you such news I don't know
  • #861,819
  • Dec 9, 2013 7:22am Dec 9, 2013 7:22am
Be careful with that buying-seizure...imo it's time to look for some drop, because we need a better/lower jumping level...ergo both buyers and sellers want lower eur. Don't you think?
f(z)=z2+c
  • #861,820
  • Dec 9, 2013 7:22am Dec 9, 2013 7:22am
Quoting giveachance
{quote} who gives you such news I don't know
He deep underwater shorting EU. Keeps talking like that since last week
That which does not kill us makes us stronger
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