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  • #321
  • Nov 29, 2013 9:34am Nov 29, 2013 9:34am
Quoting realjumper
{quote} Sounds like Micro$oft....lol....making things backward compatible just makes too much common sense!
Metaquote$ is a weird company. They seem to be actively driving users away from their platform. Luckily there are a now couple alternatives that look promising:

cTrader/cAlgo: Dealing desk intervention is impossible.
ProTrader: Protrader 3 can use MT4 indicators in addition to its own C# indicators.
  • #322
  • Nov 29, 2013 9:35am Nov 29, 2013 9:35am
Quoting heispark
{quote} Thank you very much again, Xaphod!! You're really great indeed. Especially, I love new GMTS-Dash. Regards,
Thanks, Heispark. Trade Well!
  • #323
  • Nov 29, 2013 3:28pm Nov 29, 2013 3:28pm
Quoting Xaphod
{quote} Metaquote$ is a weird company....couple alternatives that look promising:...cTrader/cAlgo...Dealing desk intervention is impossible....Protrader 3 can use MT4 indicators in addition to its own C# indicators.
Hi Xaphod,

I truly admire your amazing programming skills! I have very limited and dated programming knowledge, though I sometimes toy with the idea of improving it! ;^D

As for cTrader, as you know, even without a dealing desk, all orders have to be checked for minimum margin requirements (which offers opportunities for further intervention according to the founder of the prop shop where I used to work. ;^)

In your quest for a replacement platform, have you looked at The Zorro Project http://www.zorro-trader.com/

It uses as scripting language that's supposed to be quite a bit simpler than MQL4. Here's a comparison with TradeStation, Ninjascript and MQL4:

http://www.zorro-trader.com/manual/en/conversion.htm

There is also a MT4 bridge that allows EAs to be created & used in MT4.

If you have a chance to glance at it, I would value your opinion greatly.

Best regards.
The mind thinks, the heart knows...
  • #324
  • Nov 30, 2013 11:43am Nov 30, 2013 11:43am
Xaphod,
thanks for your great work. please, can you kindly help with coding your Heiken Ashi tape a into a multi time frame matrix like what you did with the Asctrend matrix. i know you are a very busy person but am just asking for a favour, thanks in advance
  • #325
  • Nov 30, 2013 6:56pm Nov 30, 2013 6:56pm
Quoting Ever E. Man
{quote} Hi Xaphod, I truly admire your amazing programming skills! I have very limited and dated programming knowledge, though I sometimes toy with the idea of improving it! ;^D As for cTrader, as you know, even without a dealing desk, all orders have to be checked for minimum margin requirements (which offers opportunities for further intervention according to the founder of the prop shop where I used to work. ;^) In your quest for a replacement platform, have you looked at The Zorro Project http://www.zorro-trader.com/ It uses as scripting...
Hi Ever E. Man,

Thanks for the compliment. Having no dealing desk is still a step up from a dealing desk.

I had not heard about Zorro-Trader. Thanks for the tip. I have taken a look at it and as it does not handle manual trading, it is not quite a replacement for Metatrader/Ninjatrader/cTrader etc. It does look promising for algorithmic trading and the development of automated systems. It definitely looks much simpler to program compared to mql4, however, sometimes there can be an advantage to the verboseness that mql4 provides as it gives more flexibility. The tools for optimization and testing are nice too.

All in all, the more competition there is, the better it is for us users, so I'm quite happy to see all these new/upcoming trading platforms.

Cheers!
  • #326
  • Dec 1, 2013 11:28pm Dec 1, 2013 11:28pm
Quoting Xaphod
{quote} ...Having no dealing desk is still a step up from a...dealing desk....Zorro-Trader....as it does not handle manual trading, it is not quite a replacement for Metatrader/Ninjatrader/cTrader etc...It definitely looks much simpler to program compared to mql4, however, sometimes there can be an advantage to the verboseness that mql4 provides as it gives more flexibility....I'm quite happy to see all these new/upcoming trading platforms. Cheers!
I agree that no dealing desk is the way to go. I've long been aware of the virtual dealer plugin. There are a few brokers that have disabled that feature, MB Trading being one, I believe.

Thanks for taking the time to look at Zorro, and I appreciate your evaluation.

Points well taken.
The mind thinks, the heart knows...
  • #327
  • Edited 3:54am Dec 6, 2013 3:32am | Edited 3:54am
hi Xaphod,

I have been away from coding MT4 for a couple of month and just came across your interesting post.

Would you mind sharing a couple of things with me:

1. do you have any links where I could download this new beta version: I do not speak russion

2. does any info (documentation exist) of the new features/changed mt4 parts

3. from your expierence: except of the need to change current code: does the new modified language seem to have some advantages over the old MT4?

4. any tips for coders?


Thanks so much

Ati



Quoting Xaphod
{quote} You are welcome! Build 509 is the latest build and it will probably be for many months more. Metaquotes decided to upgrade MT4 to use a modified version of mql5 which is used in MT5. It seems they underestimated the time it would take to develop the new version by at least an order of magnitude. They have been releasing what they call 'beta' versions on their russian forum. However the releases are more like alpha versions so it is likely to be many months more before they have anything that is production ready. The next version is supposed...
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  • #328
  • Dec 6, 2013 4:16am Dec 6, 2013 4:16am
Quoting Ati Baia
1. do you have any links where I could download this new beta version:
There is no download. Upgrade a current version to the beta:
http://translate.googleusercontent.c...yI-Rpe7Z_LM-fQ

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I do not speak russion
Neither do I. Use google translate or any other translation service to render the pages more understandable.

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2. does any info (documentation exist) of the new features/changed mt4 parts
http://forum.mql4.com/56885
http://forum.mql4.com/ru/58760
http://www.mql5.com/ru/forum/13114
http://www.forex-tsd.com/general-dis...few-weeks.html

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3. from your experience: except of the need to change current code: does the new modified language seem to have some advantages over the old MT4?
Not all code will need to be changed. The language is being upgraded to mql5, minus the bits that only work with MT5 (trade functions etc). You can find out more about mql5 on http://www.mql5.com/en. Yes, mql5 offers more possibilities to programmers. It has graphics, windows, events, objects, structs and so on. If they get it to work reliably, it will be an improvement. http://www.mql5.com/en/docs

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4. any tips for coders? Thanks so much Ati {quote}
Less is more.
  • #329
  • Dec 6, 2013 4:44am Dec 6, 2013 4:44am
Thanks a lot - very kind of you.

opened a thread: Big changes for MT4 2013/2014....



Quoting Xaphod
{quote} Not all code will need to be changed. The language is being upgraded to mql5, minus the bits that only work with MT5 (trade functions etc). You can find out more about mql5 on http://www.mql5.com/en. Yes, mql5 offers more possibilities to programmers. It has graphics, windows, events, objects, structs and so on. If they get it to work reliably, it will be an improvement. http://www.mql5.com/en/docs {quote} Less is more.
May I ask you for some clarification for a couple of month I have been away from coding and restart some bigger projects - so I wonder if it is worth to consider any possible changes)

Do I understand this correctly: with the new build I can mix together old MT4 function with most of the new MT5 stuff???
Previously I did not look into MT5 coding but I'm quite sufficient in MT4



Cheers

Ati
Money is important, Love is essential.
  • #330
  • Dec 8, 2013 7:41am Dec 8, 2013 7:41am
Please may I ask 2 questions? I am using a fresh install, build 509, and this one has all fresh indicators, downloaded on 5th December.

I am using 15m charts, and I have GMTS tape set at 1hr. I have just changed the show3bars to true, and now see firebrick and dark blue instead of some of the grey. However, other parts of the grey are now blank. Is that normal, or should they show grey? I have refreshed, gone up and down timeframes, closed and reopened platform... Broker is 5 dec places (FinFX)

Second question, I understand about the 1hr info may change on a 15m chart of course, but does this also apply to the dash indi?
  • #331
  • Dec 8, 2013 8:38am Dec 8, 2013 8:38am
Quoting Jikkie
Please may I ask 2 questions? I am using a fresh install, build 509, and this one has all fresh indicators, downloaded on 5th December. I am using 15m charts, and I have GMTS tape set at 1hr. I have just changed the show3bars to true, and now see firebrick and dark blue instead of some of the grey. However, other parts of the grey are now blank. Is that normal, or should they show grey? I have refreshed, gone up and down timeframes, closed and reopened platform... Broker is 5 dec places (FinFX)
Which indicators did you use? Version nr?
Post a screenshot.

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Second question, I understand about the 1hr info may change on a 15m chart of course, but does this also apply to the dash indi?
Depends on the bar you select to display (TimeFrame_TF1BarNr). Bar 0, the currently open bar and will update continuously. Any other bar is closed and will not change until there is a new bar.
  • #332
  • Dec 8, 2013 3:41pm Dec 8, 2013 3:41pm
from post #94

On your chart, it's either blue (long=4 blue dots) red (short=4 red dots) or grey (no signal). The 'True' option gives you more details about what is happening inbetween signals (in the grey area):
.dark red (firebrick) = 3 red dots + 1 blue dot (1 dot off a short signal or short signal weakening)
.black = 2 red dots + 2 blue dots (completely neutral)
.dark blue (royal blue) = 3 blue dots + 1 red dot (1 dot off a long signal or long signal weakening)."

so black for 2 square is probably correct. My GMTS_Tape doesnt have a number itself, but it is inside GMTS v1.10, downloaded 5th December.

I'm sorry, I'm not used to using quotes and screenshots for forums. I hope that will do.

Thank for you for the answer about Dash. It has an advantage over using higher timefame matrics then; great.

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  • #333
  • Dec 8, 2013 9:33pm Dec 8, 2013 9:33pm
Quoting Jikkie
from post #94 On your chart, it's either blue (long=4 blue dots) red (short=4 red dots) or grey (no signal). The 'True' option gives you more details about what is happening inbetween signals (in the grey area): .dark red (firebrick) = 3 red dots + 1 blue dot (1 dot off a short signal or short signal weakening) .black = 2 red dots + 2 blue dots (completely neutral) .dark blue (royal blue) = 3 blue dots + 1 red dot (1 dot off a long signal or long signal weakening)." so black for 2 square is probably correct. My GMTS_Tape doesnt have a number itself,...
The chart looks correct. Black is the new grey. There were not enough indicator buffers to draw 5 colors so the background acts as the no signal color when you use that mode.
  • #334
  • Dec 9, 2013 2:09am Dec 9, 2013 2:09am
Ok, great. Nice to know I haven't messed up... Thank you for the clarification.
  • #335
  • Dec 11, 2013 8:04pm Dec 11, 2013 8:04pm
Xaphod

I downloaded matrix signals and when I try to open it in MT4 it says Error! Unable to start GUI

can you please advise what I have done incorrectly

Thank you
  • #336
  • Dec 16, 2013 11:20pm Dec 16, 2013 11:20pm
Quoting joman1
Xaphod I downloaded matrix signals and when I try to open it in MT4 it says Error! Unable to start GUI can you please advise what I have done incorrectly Thank you
1. Check that you have the following file installed:
YourMetatraderFolder/experts/files/MatrixSignals.exe

2. If you are running on win7 or win8 check that MT4 can access and run the installed files.
Simplest is currently to install MT4 outside of the 'Program Files' folder.
Otherwise, locate the virtual folder where windows runs the files from and install the files there:
%userprofile%\AppData\Local\VirtualStore.

3. Note that you can only have one instance of Matrix-Signals running in MT4. Running more will also give the above error.
  • #337
  • Dec 23, 2013 3:35am Dec 23, 2013 3:35am
Quoting Xaphod
{quote} 1. Check that you have the following file installed: YourMetatraderFolder/experts/files/MatrixSignals.exe 2. If you are running on win7 or win8 check that MT4 can access and run the installed files. Simplest is currently to install MT4 outside of the 'Program Files' folder. Otherwise, locate the virtual folder where windows runs the files from and install the files there: %userprofile%AppDataLocalVirtualStore. 3. Note that you can only have one instance of Matrix-Signals running in MT4. Running more will also give the above error.
Hi,
I just installed the wonderful tools you provide in this thread and want to say a big "Thank you" for all this stuff. Especially the Tape Indicators like the HA and the MTF Stoch Tapes are exactly what I'm was looking for to keep my Charts clean.
Best wishes to you, merry christmas and a happy new trading year
Haendlerin
Never give up!!
  • #338
  • Dec 24, 2013 12:13am Dec 24, 2013 12:13am
Quoting Haendlerin
{quote} Hi, I just installed the wonderful tools you provide in this thread and want to say a big "Thank you" for all this stuff. Especially the Tape Indicators like the HA and the MTF Stoch Tapes are exactly what I'm was looking for to keep my Charts clean. Best wishes to you, merry christmas and a happy new trading year Haendlerin
Thanks, Haendlerin. I'm glad you find the indicators useful.
Merry Christmas and a happy new year to you too.
  • #339
  • Jan 5, 2014 6:13pm Jan 5, 2014 6:13pm
Quoting tylerbose
nice thread, thanks, the new indi are really helpful, and a much needed upgrade from the original matrix. however, it has the same shortcomings: very few trading possibility (altho good ones), the alert is in the wrong indi, on a time frame too small, we basically have to stay in front of the chart 24/5 if we don't want to miss an opportunity, thats not practical. can we have an alert once the: asctrend 2tf + asctrend1i + heiken ashi + M15 stoch have the same color ?
I also wonder if that alert would be possible to get.
  • #340
  • Jan 6, 2014 5:05am Jan 6, 2014 5:05am
Quoting LFN
{quote} I also wonder if that alert would be possible to get.
I'm afraid not, unless someone else is prepared to take on the task.
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