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  • #62,761
  • Nov 27, 2013 8:57am Nov 27, 2013 8:57am
Quoting sonicdeejay
Bull and Bear Boxing.. Sonic

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27 hrs later...

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Effort versus Result...

Gd Nite...

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Sonic

Too late to long.. looky short..for now..
  • #62,762
  • Nov 27, 2013 9:13am Nov 27, 2013 9:13am
Quoting sonicdeejay
{quote} 27 hrs later... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHskCheq28s Effort versus Result... Gd Nite... {image} Sonic Too late to long.. looky short..for now.. {image}
Sonic, why do you see effort being bullish and not bearish from the chart?
  • #62,763
  • Nov 27, 2013 9:17am Nov 27, 2013 9:17am
Quoting JRissa
{quote} Gold short trade Sonic R scout Double top, high volumes at highs, 1h pin bar, weekly +daily trend down, pump & dump, strong candle down... It's a scout. Against 15m dragon & trend {image}
Come on! Break that level! Give me my profits!

Gold, SL moved to BE
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I know the secret...
  • #62,764
  • Nov 27, 2013 10:07am Nov 27, 2013 10:07am
AJ Older PVSRA Short Trade Closed:

Manually closed for 251 pips gain.
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  • #62,765
  • Nov 27, 2013 10:39am Nov 27, 2013 10:39am
Sure is good to have Basber back. Between he and Sonic, maybe some sense can be pounded into us.
  • #62,766
  • Nov 27, 2013 10:42am Nov 27, 2013 10:42am
Quoting JRissa
GOLD I'm waiting for short setup... Anyone else spotted this? {image} {image}

I am on it, H4 also double topped, took a sell off the H4 pin, waiting for another sell on a retrace if it happens
insideBars==boss
  • #62,767
  • Nov 27, 2013 11:09am Nov 27, 2013 11:09am
Quoting JRissa
{quote} EU trade closed at be... Didn't rewerse rapidly {image}
Note to self;
Don't change SL to BE too fast!

this would be in ~50pips profit already...
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I know the secret...
  • #62,768
  • Nov 27, 2013 11:34am Nov 27, 2013 11:34am
GOLD, the Weekly Reminder.....
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  • #62,769
  • Nov 27, 2013 12:07pm Nov 27, 2013 12:07pm
Quoting traderathome
GOLD, the Weekly Reminder..... {image}
Always better with the trend. HTF Dragon for direction, LTF Dragon for entries. No higher probabilities than that.
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  • #62,770
  • Nov 27, 2013 1:31pm Nov 27, 2013 1:31pm
Quoting watashiLQ
{quote} thanks! {quote} Hi marvas, can i know whats the difference between your volume indicator and PVA? Can you share the indicator if you don't mind? Thanks {quote} Hi JRissa .. mind if you share the multi time frame indicator shown in your chart please? Thanks LQ
its the standard volume indicator in mt4 without colours.
  • #62,771
  • Edited 2:28pm Nov 27, 2013 1:57pm | Edited 2:28pm
MT4 Standard Volume Display & SonicR PVA Volumes Indicator

As a reminder about forex volume:
1. It is the volume only on your broker's server, i.e., only as a result of the broker's forex business. It is not market-wide volume.
2. It is the count of the number of trades your broker has executed. Their size is undisclosed.

The SonicR PVA Volumes indicator can do nothing to change these limitations of forex "volume". What it does do is to highlight notable volumes, using the same coded parameters as does the SonicR PVA Candles indicator, so when you see a highlighted candle you can quickly pick out the corresponding volume bar. This makes Price-Volume Analysis (PVA), and Price-Volume-Support-Resistance Analysis (PVSRA) much easier.
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  • #62,772
  • Nov 27, 2013 2:43pm Nov 27, 2013 2:43pm
i try to use sonic r system but badly i didn't success with it i didn't know where is my wrong i think its a bad luck
  • #62,773
  • Edited 3:58pm Nov 27, 2013 3:44pm | Edited 3:58pm
Sonic R. System Primer
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  • #62,774
  • Edited 5:05pm Nov 27, 2013 4:27pm | Edited 5:05pm
Quoting aladdensima
i try to use sonic r system but badly i didn't success with it i didn't know where is my wrong i think its a bad luck
Really? You Tried?

You just joined Forex Factory at the time of this, your first post! Should you actually decide to be a Sonicer, then read everything. When you decide to trade, post your trades. Don't just say you traded, post them when you do! That way, you can get some feedback from experienced Sonicers that can help you.

You also posted on the THV thread, saying you tried but couldn't make money with "sonicr" and that you were going to try THV. I, myself, contributed to the original coding of the THV project and have great respect for Cobra and that accomplishment. I can tell you that if you "try" THV the same way you claim to have "tried" the Sonic R. System, if you couldn't make money with Sonic R., then you won't make money with THV either!

I intend to post similar to this on the THV thread so all will understand, if you are to be believed, that you attempted in isolation and gave yourself the worst odds of achieving. Any failure on your part is not due to Sonic R., nor will it be due to THV. It will be due to whatever lack of diligence and prudence you put into "trying".

-tah
  • #62,775
  • Nov 27, 2013 5:23pm Nov 27, 2013 5:23pm
EJ Analysis

Weekly TF
We are at an extremely important point with this pair. The price of the pair is at a price that was last seen in October 2009!! This 'could' end up being a hard resistance point to break through. Only time will tell

15MIN TF
Based on what i can see on the 15 MIN chart is price has been pushed up with ease and high volume up until the price we are at now. Price was pushed above the half number with high volume and as we can see its just below the resistance point from the weekly chart. To me this seems bearish but only time will tell. One thing i've realised with this pair is the upward momentum has been out of this world and i should of spotted the signs slightly earlier... That's my mistake but we can only learn from mistakes..
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  • #62,776
  • Edited 6:37pm Nov 27, 2013 6:26pm | Edited 6:37pm
Quoting marvas
EJ Analysis Weekly TF We are at an extremely important point with this pair. The price of the pair is at a price that was last seen in October 2009!! This 'could' end up being a hard resistance point to break through. Only time will tell 15MIN TF Based on what i can see on the 15 MIN chart is price has been pushed up with ease and high volume up until the price we are at now. Price was pushed above the half number with high volume and as we can see its just below the resistance point from the weekly chart. To me this seems bearish but only time...
Marvas, you intimated the push up was easy (low volume did the trick) until the highs were reached (high volume pours in). Just thinking out loud here, but maybe the low volume push was easy because very few pending orders (either side) existed en-route. That might be due to most folks just not trusting this pair any more to venture into setting pending trade orders.

Whenever this sort of thing happens, and it happens a lot (but to a far less extravagant way) it makes me wonder just how the market makers manage to get the price up. I mean, who is on the other side of the necessary trades to accomplish the price rise? My guess is that the market makers are on both sides, clearing out any imbalance between pending long and short orders at every level, and if there has to be at least one trade at any level before the next can be achieved, I bet the market makers make the necessary trades (both sides) in one micro-lot sizes! Yet, the biggest question remains. Once up there, what happens? I mean, if there are longs to close by selling, who buys them? And then, if there are large short orders standing there (the dirty rotten stinking greedy banks having placed them there, which is why the run in the first place!) who in hell is taking the buy side????????? This remains a mystery to me, because it seems that anytime price makes an extreme top or bottom, it is usually quite obvious, and who is stupid enough at extreme highs to buy more,....who is stupid enough at extreme lows to short more? Yet, obviously, the goal of such a run is to close longs and open shorts, which is a lot of selling, and apparently there is a lot of "something" going on which makes that possible (dirty back office books at the price controlling banks?).

I would love to be enlightened should any knowledgeable market maker or liquidity providing banker desire to cleanse their soul and speak the truth about the mechanics that apparently make such amazing things possible, as having plenty of willing buyers at the top and plenty of willing sellers at the bottom,....plenty enough so the dirty rotten stinking greedy banks can magically get their orders filled, and plenty enough so the market makers go thru the effort to move prices quickly over large distances to the place where those order to be filled are standing!

-tah
  • #62,777
  • Nov 27, 2013 7:04pm Nov 27, 2013 7:04pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} Marvas, you intimated the push up was easy (low volume did the trick) until the highs were reached (high volume pours in). Just thinking out loud here, but maybe the low volume push was easy because very few pending orders (either side) existed en-route. That might be due to most folks just not trusting this pair any more to venture into setting pending trade orders. Whenever this sort of thing happens, and it happens a lot (but to a far less extravagant way) it makes me wonder just how the market makers manage to get the price up. I mean,...
Thanks for your insightful response!
  • #62,778
  • Edited 8:35pm Nov 27, 2013 7:25pm | Edited 8:35pm
EU:

Nice compound PA wave and with price back to EP zone. Dragon down, Trend down, PA below both. Just not LS, but there it is, and with a little hump up in volume in the climb before transitioning from leg #2 to leg #3. Nice. Still, the LS might produce a better setup. Cannot know. That is a time when more volume comes into the market. However, today will be Thanksgiving in USofA so at least the second half of the LS will be accordingly different, maybe all of it. We cannot know, but as long as the Dragon stays below the Trend this is bearish.
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You can see via the SonicR PVA template, the several strong upthrusts for selling (closing longs), that strong selling (shorting) later followed each, and that the shorting continues in the early Asian session.
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  • #62,779
  • Edited 8:39pm Nov 27, 2013 8:19pm | Edited 8:39pm
Entered a little early...
Even though its Asian trading session the uptrend confirmation from the closing 4H TF Hammer bar was too good to pass up.
LONG GU
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  • #62,780
  • Edited 9:34pm Nov 27, 2013 8:49pm | Edited 9:34pm
Quoting SaiLyfee
Entered a little early... Even though its Asian trading session the uptrend confirmation from the closing 4H TF Hammer bar was too good to pass up. LONG GU {image}
Use the "Paper Clip" Feature to Obtain Outdated and Erroneous Indicators & Templates! Don't Bother to Read Post #1!

Outdated indicators, SaiLyfee! Has errors that have been corrected in proper upgrade available via Post#1! Will say "PVA" in volume window. And you do not need a separate pivots indicator because the pivots feature (including the ability to base pivots on a time zone different from your broker server time zone) is build right into the SonicR Control Panel!

Geez! Why is it newbies don't read Post #1? Why is it they don't read and follow the instructions supplied in the releasing post of the latest TAH indicators & Templates that is linked in Post #1 (or if they do, they do a horrible job of it)?

BTW, your GU long trade is heading into the area where a monstrous amount of selling last occurred. A premise of PVSRA is that the MMs prefer to sell (close longs/open shorts) above key S&R. And there is no greater key S&R than whole numbers! And don't let the color of the notable candles fool you. A green or a blue bull candle upthrust can be selling motivated, the MMs creating the drive up so they can sell to the sucker longs that flock in for the shearing. The MMs pass their longs off to the long suckers that flock in, and then the MMs add shorts as the long suckers continue to flock in! It is a changing of positions by the MMs, and it is all about liquidity to be able to do so. The MMs need "longers" so the MMs can get rid of their own longs. That is the purpose of some upthrusts, to suck in unsuspecting longs!

Properly deciding if an upthrust is genuine buying by bull MMs or if it is a ruse by bear MMs to close their longs and/or open shorts is a skill you will develop. The SonicR PVA template helps. As you become more cognizant of Price & Volume around key Support & Resistance, you will be better at the analysis called PVSRA.
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