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  • #62,261
  • Nov 18, 2013 12:32pm Nov 18, 2013 12:32pm
Quoting kazancakis
Really trying to grasp it, please understand. I have taken them from your May post, quoting below. Also read about your outdated indicator post. But obviously I must still be doing something wrong... {quote}

Yeah, you are missing the "TAH" part! Use the link in post #1 to the "TAH indicators and templates"!
  • #62,262
  • Nov 18, 2013 1:19pm Nov 18, 2013 1:19pm
What do the pink, green, blue and purple bars mean on the chart? And how is the volume indicator at the bottom intended to be used along with PA?
Any clarity around this would be much appreciated
  • #62,263
  • Nov 18, 2013 1:43pm Nov 18, 2013 1:43pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} Yeah, you are missing the "TAH" part! Use the link in post #1 to the "TAH indicators and templates"!
I think I got it now. You totally replaced the old indicators with 25 May update. So I don't need any CCI anymore Sorry, TAH.
  • #62,264
  • Nov 18, 2013 1:53pm Nov 18, 2013 1:53pm
Quoting SaiLyfee
What do the pink, green, blue and purple bars mean on the chart? And how is the volume indicator at the bottom intended to be used along with PA? Any clarity around this would be much appreciated
I'll answer you quick, before you get lecture from somebody
read the post #1 +everything linked to it. Read the notes from indicators and start following posts daily. Every day here are posted analysis using those volumes +dragon +pa +sr zones ect...

Search posts by Professor TAH, Loeil and me. I think that we three are posting most specific analysis +advices/explanations. Start going from newest posts backwards and you'll be learning fast.
I know the secret...
  • #62,265
  • Nov 18, 2013 2:09pm Nov 18, 2013 2:09pm
Quoting loeil
EJ - short. Decided to start adding short positions. Lets see how it will go. {image}
EJ - what a nice move..
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  • #62,266
  • Nov 18, 2013 2:12pm Nov 18, 2013 2:12pm
Quoting loeil
{quote} First of all I suggest to install the latest template here: http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...75#post6707275 CCI is not in use. The only thing you need is PVSRA - price, volume, support&resistance.
Thanks a lot loeil, appreciated. Need to read at least half of the whole thread :/
  • #62,267
  • Nov 18, 2013 2:16pm Nov 18, 2013 2:16pm
Quoting loeil
{quote} EJ - what a nice move.. {image}
Once u know how MMs think, all you need is one entry
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  • #62,268
  • Nov 18, 2013 2:19pm Nov 18, 2013 2:19pm
Quoting Tymedu
{quote} Once u know how MMs think, all you need is one entry {image}
Yeah, actually agreed. Old habit
Whatever is obvious is obviously wrong!"
  • #62,269
  • Nov 18, 2013 3:14pm Nov 18, 2013 3:14pm
First of all hi and thanks everyone who is and was in this topic, especially TAH and Sonic. This was a great strategy. Now, I want to participate and try to support this subject. I added a screenshot for EURJPY with M15 chart. I took long from the white line at the end. But, now i am thinking that was it a good move? There was an uptrend and then strong decline was occured. Trend could be break and turn short. What do you think guys?
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  • #62,270
  • Nov 18, 2013 3:15pm Nov 18, 2013 3:15pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} ...against the prevailing winds! ... You might want to reconsider sticking to the provided template and indicators, which might help you to see things better. - tah {image} {image}
I think that prewvailing winds are up for at least last 3 weaks, I know that we have almost touched resistance level but take a look at my signature thats what Iīm doing, buying the tops and selling the lows

I have the same things on my template as u have, 4 emas and volume, I just want to highlight volume bars in different way, Iīve made some changes in your code, but thank you for programming the base
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  • #62,271
  • Edited 5:09pm Nov 18, 2013 4:52pm | Edited 5:09pm
Quoting JRissa
{quote} I'll answer you quick, before you get lecture from somebody read the post #1 +everything linked to it. Read the notes from indicators and start following posts daily. Every day here are posted analysis using those volumes +dragon +pa +sr zones ect... Search posts by Professor TAH, Loeil and me. I think that we three are posting most specific analysis +advices/explanations. Start going from newest posts backwards and you'll be learning fast.
"I'll answer you quick, before you get lecture from somebody....."
  • #62,272
  • Edited 5:23pm Nov 18, 2013 5:02pm | Edited 5:23pm
Quoting wenaaa
{quote} I think that prewvailing winds are up for at least last 3 weaks, I know that we have almost touched resistance level but take a look at my signature thats what Iīm doing, buying the tops and selling the lows I have the same things on my template as u have, 4 emas and volume, I just want to highlight volume bars in different way, Iīve made some changes in your code, but thank you for programming the base
wenaaa,

Just trying to help. The Sonic R. System is not about buying bottoms and selling tops. It is about carving out a lower risk trade during a trend move at a time when momentum to continue the trend is starting again. Yes, Scouts are sometimes used in those isolated instances where there is a strong spike with strong volume that opens the door for a counter trade, but mostly the Scout should be used to support a running Classic trade that maybe the MMs are whipping price on because they too realize it is a damn good trade and want to load up at favorable prices for more movement later in the direction you took the trade.

Respect this thread! Trade the Sonic R. System. If you do not, you like others in the past that come here just to post your own trading style might not be able to continue to post. I would also suggest that when you say you "think" this or that, that you be more explanatory as to what makes you think so, otherwise you are just expression a predictive opinion in the face of the fact that we Sonicers already know we cannot ever know the future of price. So, how does that make you look?

Finally, you opened a long trade when the Dragon was still angled down. Moreover, the Dragon was below the Trend, which also was angled down. To make matters worse, you opened it when there was only about 10-13 pips to go before running into very heavy historic resistance! These are all clear violations of the Sonic R. System. If you plan on continuing this way you should start your own thread, because this is not an example of Sonic R. System trading that we want posted here to mislead others.

I do not mean to be unduly harsh to a new person as we view all new persons as having enough of what it takes to become a better, more successful trader, using the Sonic R. System,.....unless and until they work hard to prove otherwise. You are just starting here. I do not want to see you start off on the wrong foot without a proper spanking for doing so.

-tah
  • #62,273
  • Nov 18, 2013 5:36pm Nov 18, 2013 5:36pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} wenaaa, Just trying to help. The Sonic R. System is not about buying bottoms and selling tops. It is about carving out a lower risk trade during a trend move at a time when momentum to continue the trend is starting again. Yes, Scouts are sometimes used in those isolated instances where there is a strong spike with strong volume that opens the door for a counter trade, but mostly the Scout should be used to support a running Classic trade that maybe the MMs are whipping price on because they too realize it is a damn good trade and want to...
iīm not buying the bottoms and selling the tops - I do it the opposite way
donīt know what resistance do u mean, 1-13 pips was meaned 113? if it was its far above my TP.
This trade was sonicr (maybe not a good one but lets others learn from my faults), I donīt post here my other trades.
starting new thread only because dragon was flat and below ema89?
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  • #62,274
  • Edited 6:06pm Nov 18, 2013 5:39pm | Edited 6:06pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} EU Long Trade Update: Entered long #3, a Classic, but before LS and so with higher risk. Tweaked TP. {image}
EU Long Trade Update: Entered long #4, a trade supporting Scout via pending order that was executed as price receded to the whole number area, presumably so the MMs could pick up more longs at a lower price again, because this is the same area of concentrated volume before the price rose from it. Adjusted TP.
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  • #62,275
  • Nov 18, 2013 5:51pm Nov 18, 2013 5:51pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} EU Long Trade Update: Entered long #3, a trade supporting Scout via pending order that was executed as price receded to the whole number area, presumably so the MMs could pick up more longs at a lower price again, because this is the same area of concentrated volume before the price rose from it. Adjusted TP. {image}
Hi TAH,

How to have the 'AV' line and 'TP' line on the chart?
Don mind if you post the indicator here.

Thanks.
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  • #62,276
  • Nov 18, 2013 5:56pm Nov 18, 2013 5:56pm
Quoting wenaaa
{quote} iīm not buying the bottoms and selling the tops - I do it the opposite way donīt know what resistance do u mean, 1-13 pips was meaned 113? if it was its far above my TP. This trade was sonicr (maybe not a good one but lets others learn from my faults), I donīt post here my other trades. starting new thread only because dragon was flat and below ema89?
wenaaa,

Call it what you want, sellling bottoms and buying tops, whatever. This thread is not the place for it.

As for this particular trade of yours, it violated several precepts of the Sonic R. System, which I have previously stated. So, the fact that you took it means either you have no idea what the Sonic R. System is all about, or you don't care. Either way spells problems for you.
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Furthermore, since you admit you cannot find the area of resistance I speak of, I have posted a chart depicting it. It is fairly well indicated by the tops and bottoms of some of the PVA candles. Here also, is a prime example of a trader coming here, prostituting the templates provided, and screwing up their trading. Had you used the supplied template, you might have seen and better appreciated the potential for what did later happen.
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As I said, I am only trying to help you to become an improving Sonicer. If that is not what you want, you should not stay here. If that is what you want, then you should start taking this to heart.

-tah
  • #62,277
  • Edited 6:18pm Nov 18, 2013 6:05pm | Edited 6:18pm
Quoting traderathome
AU Short Trade: Entered short #1, a Classic entry. The Dragon is flat and the Trend is still up, so this might not be ready. It could go back up, but then it could always go back up. If it does, and if all looks bearish in spite of that, I might add a short Scout. There was the asian session pump up and then repeated at the US open, followed by a very strong bear bar with high volume, so it does look overall like the MMs have turned to bears. Now it remains to be seen if the Dragon follows down. {image}
AU Short Trade Update: I manually closed the trade for 165 pips gain at a previous area of support. I will be looking to see what the new day reveals in the way of another setup.
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  • #62,278
  • Nov 18, 2013 6:20pm Nov 18, 2013 6:20pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} wenaaa, Call it what you want, sellling bottoms and buying tops, whatever. This thread is not the place for it. As for this particular trade of yours, it violated several precepts of the Sonic R. System, which I have previously stated. So, the fact that you took it means either you have no idea what the Sonic R. System is all about, or you don't care. Either way spells problems for you. {image} Furthermore, since you admit you cannot find the area of resistance I speak of, I have posted a chart depicting it. It is fairly well indicated by...
take it easy tah, i wanted to know opinions of others sonicers, that was why i have posted it.
Iīm surely not the first one who entered below ema89.
I donīt think i have violated the basic of sonicr, i have seen clear uptrend on H1/H4 and then return to previous significant high a pullback with forming 1-2-3 pattern to the trend, I take a look at M15 and there it was - sonicr entry, not a best one but i decided to take it

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  • #62,279
  • Nov 18, 2013 6:26pm Nov 18, 2013 6:26pm
hey guys, is this a possible downtrend? i'm still new here and i hope to learn something from posting. thanks in advance.
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  • #62,280
  • Nov 18, 2013 6:27pm Nov 18, 2013 6:27pm
Quoting Tymedu
{quote} Once u know how MMs think, all you need is one entry {image}
Hi Tymedu a very interesting point , catch them (MMs) in the act with one entry. have a nice day
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