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  • #853,601
  • Nov 16, 2013 12:34pm Nov 16, 2013 12:34pm
Quoting Tom_D_Trader
Well you are joking, but some Israel brokers were actually selling futures on possibility US will bomb down Syria. That was like a year ago. You can sell literally anything. Saw Dairy futures on New zealand stock exchange? edit: you see? 300 times bigger volume than the nearest rivals in ocean. {image}
From Money never sleeps:

Who fucked up?
http://static.businessinsider.com/im...-fucked-up.jpg
NORWEGIAN MAN: What about the rating agencies?
RICH MAN: Yeah, they fucked up too.
NORWEGIAN MAN: What about the investment bank that put these CDO's together?
RICH MAN: Fucked up.
NORWEGIAN MAN: What about the bank that made the original loan?
RICH MAN: Totally fucked up.
NORWEGIAN MAN: What am I supposed to tell my villagers?
RICH MAN: That you fucked up.



Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/the-b...#ixzz2kqJlar6G
"It's the Margin, Stupid."
  • #853,602
  • Nov 16, 2013 12:44pm Nov 16, 2013 12:44pm
Quoting Vachus
{quote} From Money never sleeps: Who fucked up? {image} NORWEGIAN MAN: What about the rating agencies? RICH MAN: Yeah, they fucked up too. NORWEGIAN MAN: What about the investment bank that put these CDO's together? RICH MAN: Fucked up. NORWEGIAN MAN: What about the bank that made the original loan? RICH MAN: Totally fucked up. NORWEGIAN MAN: What am I supposed to tell my villagers? RICH MAN: That you fucked up. Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/the-b...#ixzz2kqJlar6G
The whole world will be fucked up again when stock markets crash.
ignore wackos and psychos, including myself. But I can't add myself to iggy
  • #853,603
  • Nov 16, 2013 12:44pm Nov 16, 2013 12:44pm
Quoting milam
{quote} The book is a gem, full of insight, I seriously tried to trade that way, but did not work for me, I came to the conclusion that my personality does not reflect his way, you have to be focus 100%, evert tick has his importance and you have to be very relax and attentive at the same time, not easy for me considering the surrounding. I am doing ok with a style that I developed trading the daily and only the six major and because of that I have a lot of time and I may go back to try again Volman's way which could be of a different outcome because...
I find it good at range trading and b/o as I mentioned before.. The teasers and fakes are pretty easy to identify but it doesn't quite work for trending markets as the first and second breaks mislead you a lot. I developed my own way of trading the retraces.. Also the trade management is too complex..
  • #853,604
  • Nov 16, 2013 12:57pm Nov 16, 2013 12:57pm
Quoting ffleo
{quote} The whole world will be fucked up again when stock markets crash.
That's what the leftish called " Inflated added value". We have all to admit that buying a stock in expectation of price upward movement is a self fulfilling prophecy ... which actually can create the movement itself up without any real addition to value! So, it will keep in crashing as long as investors invest money to expect higher returns and someone at the end must stay holding the bag. Just like the musical chairs , you keep on hoping ur ass will land somewhere when the music stops.
"It's the Margin, Stupid."
  • #853,605
  • Nov 16, 2013 12:57pm Nov 16, 2013 12:57pm
Quoting attila
{quote} I find it good at range trading and b/o as I mentioned before.. The teasers and fakes are pretty easy to identify but it doesn't quite work for trending markets as the first and second breaks mislead you a lot. I developed my own way of trading the retraces.. Also the trade management is too complex..
You see, it depends on one personality, for me the trending market worked better, especially the second break if I have the patience to wait for them, my best period for this style was when I was able to make only one or two trades a day or none, considering that I was risking 2% per trade, but because I did not have a financial back up, my emotions were pushing me taking trades where I could stay out, I realise that if you restrain and take only the clear setups, it is doable.
Wherever you go, there you are.
  • #853,606
  • Nov 16, 2013 1:01pm Nov 16, 2013 1:01pm
Quoting Vachus
{quote} That's what the leftish called " Inflated added value". We have all to admit that buying a stock in expectation of price upward movement is a self fulfilling prophecy ... which actually can create the movement itself up without any real addition to value! So, it will keep in crashing as long as investors invest money to expect higher returns and someone at the end must stay holding the bag. Just like the musical chairs , you keep on hoping ur ass will land somewhere when the music stops.
I kind think the crash is also designed to happen. they cannot pump up the stock market indefinitely so they need to crash the stock market to start another cycle of pumping up. They do make money when they crash the stock market because they are loaded with shorts before they crash the market. It is just a big swing for them.
ignore wackos and psychos, including myself. But I can't add myself to iggy
  • #853,607
  • Edited 1:04pm Nov 16, 2013 1:02pm | Edited 1:04pm
Quoting Vachus
We have all to admit that buying a stock in expectation of price upward movement is a self fulfilling prophecy
Greater fool theory, old stuff. It was Sir Isaac Newton in 18th century, trading South Sea Bubble who made this phenomenon known to investing community.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/4...ol-theory.html
"I know one thing, that I know nothing." Sokrates
  • #853,608
  • Nov 16, 2013 1:20pm Nov 16, 2013 1:20pm
Quoting Tom_D_Trader
{quote} Greater fool theory, old stuff. It was Sir Isaac Newton in 18th century, trading South Sea Bubble who made this phenomenon known to investing community. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/4...ol-theory.html
let us buy Dutch tulip. this thing is going to worth a million per bundle next year.
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ignore wackos and psychos, including myself. But I can't add myself to iggy
  • #853,609
  • Nov 16, 2013 4:07pm Nov 16, 2013 4:07pm
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The EUR/USD pair rose during the session on Friday, slamming into the 1.35. This level should offer a significant amount resistance and we also can make an argument for the fact that consolidation could be in the cards as well. This consolidation would have resistance all the way up to the 1.36 level, so therefore we feel that the market could very well produce a resistive momentum after breaking above the 1.35 handle.
Because of this, we are not buyers, and as a result we are looking for to start selling as soon as the divergence is confirmed!
  • #853,610
  • Nov 16, 2013 5:07pm Nov 16, 2013 5:07pm
Quoting ricmaj
{quote} the last time i saw 2,4, 6 i saw the equilateral triangle, i mean a butterfly. real complex though (smile)
"You want to go butterfly?" Is a term used in NY. If you say "Yes", the girl will take you very near to heavens but it will cost $ 200.00
The Thief of Wall Street
  • #853,611
  • Nov 16, 2013 5:56pm Nov 16, 2013 5:56pm
Quoting Tom_D_Trader
Its just Daily closed below 50% fibo, which made base of previous zone, now beeing R like ,3472 - ,3518.
Quoting Tom_D_Trader
the 1,32 scenario doesnt say we cant touch like 1,352 first before that low.
Now Friday closed above that Fibo number, but whole move is still well within the zone. Zone above is stuffed with R and the higher we go, the better RR. I would like to add here that imo there really is spillover from Yen here, which was ranging wild above 100, trying to decide, and once the move resumes, we are gonna dive. Whole UJ move ended up as breakout on weekly, though Friday ended up as doji above 100. So, we could get 100 retested here, and combined with Friday EU closing at top of Weekly range and above last weeks open, we could very well retest top of the zone @ 1,352. Nevertheless, I suspect bears will push hard to move us down below 1,349 on Sunday, so weekly doesnt look so scary. Am gonna be loading when we get near to 1,351.
T
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"I know one thing, that I know nothing." Sokrates
  • #853,612
  • Nov 16, 2013 9:28pm Nov 16, 2013 9:28pm
Quoting Tom_D_Trader
...Am gonna be loading when we get near to 1,351. T {image}
What' wrong with loading near 1.3560?
The Thief of Wall Street
  • #853,613
  • Nov 16, 2013 9:31pm Nov 16, 2013 9:31pm
Quoting Chicky
{quote} What' wrong with loading near 1.3560?
Why do you ignore chance of a spike? It always happens............. I mean, it always happens when I put my stops in those grey areas.
The Thief of Wall Street
  • #853,614
  • Nov 16, 2013 9:57pm Nov 16, 2013 9:57pm
You give a fish and the man eats for one day, you teach him how to fish and he says "Thanks but I want my unemployment allowance"

Short at
3734
Short at
3636
Short at
3538
Long at
3440
Long at

3342
Long at
3244
Long at
3146
Long at
3048
The Thief of Wall Street
  • #853,615
  • Nov 16, 2013 10:02pm Nov 16, 2013 10:02pm
Quoting Chicky
You give a fish and the man eats for one day, you teach him how to fish and he says "Thanks but I want my unemployment allowance" Short at 3734 Short at 3636 Short at 3538 Long at 3440 Long at 3342 Long at 3244 Long at 3146 Long at 3048
Fish #2

Short at
3697
Short at
3562
Long at
3427
Long at
3292
Long at

3157
Long at
3022
Long at
2887
Long at
2752
The Thief of Wall Street
  • #853,616
  • Nov 16, 2013 10:05pm Nov 16, 2013 10:05pm
Quoting Chicky
{quote} Why do you ignore chance of a spike? It always happens............. I mean, it always happens when I put my stops in those grey areas.
Yes it always happen, these are stop loss grabber spike one element of 2B pattern. why don't we(traders) use it as a indication of entry,
for today I would like to share 2B pattern , lot of you knows it, but there are some still not aware it.
possible spike at 1.3520-70 area can be seen.
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don't predict direction, but dance with flow of water
  • #853,617
  • Nov 16, 2013 10:07pm Nov 16, 2013 10:07pm
Here is the whole fishery .......................... Now he will say "but where is the beef?"

Short at
3734
Short at
3697
Short at
3636
Short at
3562
Short at
3538
Long at
3440
Long at
3427
Long at

3342
Long at
3292
Long at
3244
Long at

3157
Long at
3146
Long at
3048
Long at
3022
Long at
2887
Long at
2752
The Thief of Wall Street
  • #853,618
  • Nov 16, 2013 10:15pm Nov 16, 2013 10:15pm
Quoting priceaction1
{quote} Yes it always happen, these are stop loss grabber spike one element of 2B pattern. why don't we(traders) use it as a indication of entry, for today I would like to share 2B pattern , lot of you knows it, but there are some still not aware it. possible spike at 1.3520-70 area can be seen. {file}
I have a level at 1.3562 in addition to the one near 1.3540. I am quite confident about these levels for a few pip scalps, however, the market volatility or buying/selling strength will decide if train stops or skips 1.3540 stop. But I have nothing at 1.3510 and logically it should not be a strong level. 20/30 pips near a round number means nothing, thats why I am aiming at 1.356o and not anything below this to 1.3500.
The Thief of Wall Street
  • #853,619
  • Nov 16, 2013 10:28pm Nov 16, 2013 10:28pm
yes it is. agree, what is your view if we see decline at 1.355XX-7XX area, does it will second leg of 3 drive move. ( I always trade in NOW situation. pre set target can be achieved but don't stick be flexible.)
don't predict direction, but dance with flow of water
  • #853,620
  • Nov 17, 2013 5:16am Nov 17, 2013 5:16am
good source for eur/usd. http://www.forexpeacearmy.com/forex-...22-2013-a.html
don't predict direction, but dance with flow of water
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