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  • #852,021
  • Nov 11, 2013 4:47pm Nov 11, 2013 4:47pm
Quoting ffleo
{quote} so you mean you cannot handle extra knowledge. fine, nobody is going to blame you.

Vegas dont care as long as the bets are even. they take theirs off the top. they have a bias to keep the bets closer to even.. even, is a hedge where they get a guaranteed profit..
kinda like brokers/banks and the annalists reports from them.. the top dog allowing reports to be released has a say on what is released.

then the game starts.
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #852,022
  • Nov 11, 2013 4:58pm Nov 11, 2013 4:58pm
Quoting Ken A
{quote} If you stay up for Tokyo, U/J 99.50 worth looking. Will be closing most of the longs around that area.
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ignore wackos and psychos, including myself. But I can't add myself to iggy
  • #852,023
  • Nov 11, 2013 5:06pm Nov 11, 2013 5:06pm
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} Vegas dont care as long as the bets are even. they take theirs off the top. they have a bias to keep the bets closer to even.. even, is a hedge where they get a guaranteed profit.. kinda like brokers/banks and the annalists reports from them.. the top dog allowing reports to be released has a say on what is released. then the game starts.
when i read their reports im more interested in what s/r levels the bankers have. Some short term numbers coincidence with my numbers pretty well. I guess those are numbers that should be easily identified.
There was one interesting thing that i read a while ago that some CITI traders hold their position underwater for a month and closed out when they saw profit.
ignore wackos and psychos, including myself. But I can't add myself to iggy
  • #852,024
  • Nov 11, 2013 5:11pm Nov 11, 2013 5:11pm
Quoting ffleo
{quote} {image}
Those importers/exporters don't look at chart to make decision with $ bil of barrier to keep the price at certain levels
  • #852,025
  • Nov 11, 2013 5:14pm Nov 11, 2013 5:14pm
Quoting Ken A
{quote} Those importers/exporters don't look at chart to make decision with $ bil of barrier to keep the price at certain levels
you are talking about commercials. They trade big in a large batch, but not very often. If they trade every hour, the market will be jumping around, spiking up and down, very volatile.
ignore wackos and psychos, including myself. But I can't add myself to iggy
  • #852,026
  • Nov 11, 2013 5:16pm Nov 11, 2013 5:16pm
Quoting ffleo
{quote} when i read their reports im more interested in what s/r levels the bankers have. Some short term numbers coincidence with my numbers pretty well. I guess those are numbers that should be easily identified. There was one interesting thing that i read a while ago that some CITI traders hold their position underwater for a month and closed out when they saw profit.
You know everything what they want you to know

Example:

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  • #852,027
  • Nov 11, 2013 5:18pm Nov 11, 2013 5:18pm
Quoting Ken A
{quote} You know everything what they want you to know Example: {image}
and what i want myself to know by myself.
ignore wackos and psychos, including myself. But I can't add myself to iggy
  • #852,028
  • Nov 11, 2013 5:19pm Nov 11, 2013 5:19pm
Quoting Ken A
{quote} So who you think that moves the world third largest traded currency? Mickey the mouse?
commercials, hedge funds and prop desks mostly. occasional intervention by central banks.
ignore wackos and psychos, including myself. But I can't add myself to iggy
  • #852,029
  • Nov 11, 2013 5:22pm Nov 11, 2013 5:22pm
for those interested in real trading, not just spot FX - take a read through this, fantastic research and good read

https://www.dropbox.com/s/byafis8td2...kly%5B1%5D.pdf

Bear in mind to the earlier conversation, there are no professional traders that don't understand every word in here - see how you fair.

It can't be a coincidence that you need to know this stuff to be a pro. They are more clever than you all think.
  • #852,030
  • Nov 11, 2013 5:26pm Nov 11, 2013 5:26pm
Quoting JeremyWS
for those interested in real trading, not just spot FX - take a read through this, fantastic research and good read https://www.dropbox.com/s/byafis8td2...kly%5B1%5D.pdf Bear in mind to the earlier conversation, there are no professional traders that don't understand every word in here - see how you fair. It can't be a coincidence that you need to know this stuff to be a pro. They are more clever than you all think.
It's a good to start a thread where you can focus and discuss or to educate or share how to be a pro. You have many followers the thread will be very popular and you can run the thread the way you see fit.
  • #852,031
  • Nov 11, 2013 5:27pm Nov 11, 2013 5:27pm
Quoting JeremyWS
for those interested in real trading, not just spot FX - take a read through this, fantastic research and good read https://www.dropbox.com/s/byafis8td2...kly%5B1%5D.pdf Bear in mind to the earlier conversation, there are no professional traders that don't understand every word in here - see how you fair. It can't be a coincidence that you need to know this stuff to be a pro. They are more clever than you all think.
thanks for the pdf file. I do not think those pro traders are dumb by all means. First they need to have trading experience and interviewed to get a job in the bank.
ignore wackos and psychos, including myself. But I can't add myself to iggy
  • #852,032
  • Nov 11, 2013 5:28pm Nov 11, 2013 5:28pm
Quoting Ken A
{quote} It's a good to start a thread where you can focus and discuss or to educate or share how to be a pro. You have many followers the thread will be very popular and you can run the thread the way you see fit.
hey ken, you are going to miss the only tooth you have.
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  • #852,033
  • Nov 11, 2013 5:29pm Nov 11, 2013 5:29pm
Quoting Ken A
{quote} It's a good to start a thread where you can focus and discuss or to educate or share how to be a pro. You have many followers the thread will be very popular and you can run the thread the way you see fit.
can't be bothered, also I have no intent of educating people how to be pro. I'm just saying you can't be pro without knowing basics (and that is very basic) in the PDF from JP morgan. There are so many people claiming to be pros and don't even understand anything more than spot FX, i.e. don't know how to gamma trade, swap trade etc.
  • #852,034
  • Nov 11, 2013 5:33pm Nov 11, 2013 5:33pm
Quoting JeremyWS
for those interested in real trading, not just spot FX - take a read through this, fantastic research and good read https://www.dropbox.com/s/byafis8td2...kly%5B1%5D.pdf Bear in mind to the earlier conversation, there are no professional traders that don't understand every word in here - see how you fair. It can't be a coincidence that you need to know this stuff to be a pro. They are more clever than you all think.
Bear Stearns ?
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #852,035
  • Nov 11, 2013 5:34pm Nov 11, 2013 5:34pm
Quoting Ken A
{quote} Fine. Suit yourself. I am not a pro and don't know all that.
i do not know either. but i do not mind knowing more. it may help to expend trading when account grows big enough.
ignore wackos and psychos, including myself. But I can't add myself to iggy
  • #852,036
  • Nov 11, 2013 5:39pm Nov 11, 2013 5:39pm
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} Bear Stearns ?
bear stearns, LTCM, even JP morgan.

The fact that they all have lost a lot of money doesn't mean they're stupid - barely anyone could have predicted accurately what would have happened.

But I'm sure you are an expert on the securitization chain and CDO squareds and told them all they were going to go bankrupt.
  • #852,037
  • Nov 11, 2013 5:45pm Nov 11, 2013 5:45pm
Quoting JeremyWS
{quote} bear stearns, LTCM, even JP morgan. The fact that they all have lost a lot of money doesn't mean they're stupid - barely anyone could have predicted accurately what would have happened. But I'm sure you are an expert on the securitization chain and CDO squareds and told them all they were going to go bankrupt.

as a matter of fact the crash was predicted. not Bear and Stearn. the world economy one,,
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #852,038
  • Nov 11, 2013 5:48pm Nov 11, 2013 5:48pm
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} as a matter of fact the crash was predicted. not Bear and Stearn. the world economy one,,
right now spx and dow bubbles, australian and chinese house bubbles. australian median house price in 2012 is 2x the price of the US median price in 2013. over 80% of their income needs to pay back loan.
ignore wackos and psychos, including myself. But I can't add myself to iggy
  • #852,039
  • Nov 11, 2013 5:55pm Nov 11, 2013 5:55pm
Quoting JeremyWS
for those interested in real trading, not just spot FX - take a read through this, fantastic research and good read https://www.dropbox.com/s/byafis8td2...kly%5B1%5D.pdf Bear in mind to the earlier conversation, there are no professional traders that don't understand every word in here - see how you fair. It can't be a coincidence that you need to know this stuff to be a pro. They are more clever than you all think.
Thanks for this.

CAD traders take note -- great reading beginning page 28
  • #852,040
  • Nov 11, 2013 6:00pm Nov 11, 2013 6:00pm
Quoting ffleo
{quote} right now spx and dow bubbles, australian and chinese house bubbles.

probably, the question is when is the pop. that's why copper and oil is important. they lead, confirmation from cat dont hurt.
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
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