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  • #846,141
  • Oct 23, 2013 12:21am Oct 23, 2013 12:21am
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} show me one tl or any other method or indi that does not?

gator what your take on


Top China Banks Triple Debt Write-Offs as Defaults Loom , is it big as 2008 ?


http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-1...-defaults.html
Mohan
  • #846,142
  • Oct 23, 2013 12:22am Oct 23, 2013 12:22am
Quoting Chicky
{quote} I ask you a secret question. If you have the answer without any calculation or second thought, you are the winner. Suppose there is no spread, you keep on buying every pip it goes up and sell every pip it goes down. If it ends higher or lower from the point you started, will you gain, lose or break-even?
of course you win, your average price always lags your action. but you will run out of money, so why not buy more at lower price before it keeps moving up?
ignore wackos and psychos, including myself. But I can't add myself to iggy
  • #846,143
  • Oct 23, 2013 12:24am Oct 23, 2013 12:24am
Quoting Chicky
{quote} I ask you a secret question. If you have the answer without any calculation or second thought, you are the winner. Suppose there is no spread, you keep on buying every pip it goes up and sell every pip it goes down. If it ends higher or lower from the point you started, will you gain, lose or break-even?
you want one to say break-even..?

why does is it matter? it depends how market moves and where it closes.
Even the worst trade can close with profit. Just give it time.
  • #846,144
  • Oct 23, 2013 12:25am Oct 23, 2013 12:25am
Quoting ffleo
{quote} of course you win, your average price always lags your action.

up=down? up-down=0
Even the worst trade can close with profit. Just give it time.
  • #846,145
  • Oct 23, 2013 12:26am Oct 23, 2013 12:26am
bearish sign for aussie already,

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  • #846,146
  • Oct 23, 2013 12:27am Oct 23, 2013 12:27am
Quoting mohan76
{quote} gator what your take on Top China Banks Triple Debt Write-Offs as Defaults Loom , is it big as 2008 ? http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-1...-defaults.html

i just watch cat and wallmart,,, cat has insight to china, and Australia... when cat has dim forecast causing the stock to drop. what else is a better indi w/o the bs?,,, the same with wallmart in a more present indi
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #846,147
  • Oct 23, 2013 12:29am Oct 23, 2013 12:29am
Quoting John Gray
{quote} up=down? up-down=0
when market moves up from price P1 to P2, you keep buying at even pace, your average price is (P1+P2)/2, it is lower than P2. Of course when it goes down afterwards, you dump the whole position at once. Trading sometimes needs a little quick calculation.
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  • #846,148
  • Oct 23, 2013 12:30am Oct 23, 2013 12:30am
Quoting mohan76
{quote} too many unknowns
Take a graph and put the dots as if you are buying when its going up and selling when its going down every pip. No calculation.
You lose one pip every time it bounces either up or down. More it bounces, more you lose. It bounces very little in a break. Big bounces, but number of bounces are fewer. Jesse bought or sold break-outs, adding every time it moved in his direction at the early stages of the break. But he never traded ranges, because he new adding in the direction of a move in a ranging market is plain suicide.
The Thief of Wall Street
  • #846,149
  • Oct 23, 2013 12:32am Oct 23, 2013 12:32am
Quoting gatorinla
{quote} i just watch cat and wallmart,,, cat has insight to china, and Australia... when cat has dim forecast causing the stock to drop. what else is a better indi w/o the bs?,,, the same with wallmart in a more present indi

thanks , i will reduce lot size as precaution and keeping eye on cat this week.
Mohan
  • #846,150
  • Oct 23, 2013 12:33am Oct 23, 2013 12:33am
Hey I can't help it that I'm in profit, it just happens.......................
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  • #846,151
  • Oct 23, 2013 12:36am Oct 23, 2013 12:36am
Quoting mohan76
{quote} gator what your take on Top China Banks Triple Debt Write-Offs as Defaults Loom , is it big as 2008 ? http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-1...-defaults.html

all we see is bs... 80.39 usdx is what happened in 2007 when the last time stocks were at the all time highs.. 7 months later was July 2008.. in the 7 months pryer to crash, most stocks were stagnate.. excluding energy.... then oil was rising, this time.. its not.. and gas is getting closer to 3$
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  • #846,152
  • Oct 23, 2013 12:44am Oct 23, 2013 12:44am
Quoting Chicky
{quote} Take a graph and put the dots as if you are buying when its going up and selling when its going down every pip. No calculation. You lose one pip every time it bounces either up or down. More it bounces, more you lose. It bounces very little in a break. Big bounces, but number of bounces are fewer. Jesse bought or sold break-outs, adding every time it moved in his direction at the early stages of the break. But he never traded ranges, because he new adding in the direction of a move in a ranging market is plain suicide.
when you have a winning trade, do not add to it if you are not very certain about the target. if your trade turns around, what you just added will eat all your existing profit.
ignore wackos and psychos, including myself. But I can't add myself to iggy
  • #846,153
  • Oct 23, 2013 12:45am Oct 23, 2013 12:45am
Quoting mohan76
{quote} thanks , i will reduce lot size as precaution and keeping eye on cat this week.

copper is another...
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #846,154
  • Oct 23, 2013 12:47am Oct 23, 2013 12:47am
Quoting godim
3794 is important level {image}
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  • #846,155
  • Oct 23, 2013 12:51am Oct 23, 2013 12:51am
Quoting KillerWhale
Hey I can't help it that I'm in profit, it just happens....................... {image}
As a senior member you should realize you are not doing any good to the people who lost today.
I have no time to be happy for you, got enough porblems for myself. And why should I be happy for you? .......... the money you are showing is mine.
The Thief of Wall Street
  • #846,156
  • Edited 1:06am Oct 23, 2013 12:53am | Edited 1:06am
gold looks up for me. bought at 1337. if gold fills the nfp gap at 1341.98 more upside will come till 1345. 1345 will fill up the gap from 30th sept
  • #846,157
  • Oct 23, 2013 12:54am Oct 23, 2013 12:54am
im not calling a drop of spx, but this chart makes me grin a little,

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  • #846,158
  • Oct 23, 2013 12:57am Oct 23, 2013 12:57am
Quoting ffleo
{quote} when you have a winning trade, do not add to it if you are not very certain about the target. if your trade turns around, what you just added will eat all your existing profit.
Agreed. Good advice.

One more advice, if you can. Where should be my StopLoss if I am on sidelines? Thanks in advance.
The Thief of Wall Street
  • #846,159
  • Oct 23, 2013 1:00am Oct 23, 2013 1:00am
Quoting ffleo
im not calling a drop of spx, but this chart makes me grin a little, {image}

i am not cheering a correction. one has to keep an open mind and not ignore the past signs for the future.
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #846,160
  • Oct 23, 2013 1:00am Oct 23, 2013 1:00am
Quoting Chicky
{quote} Agreed. Good advice. One more advice, if you can. Where should be my StopLoss if I am on sidelines? Thanks in advance.
ask the girl next door
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