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  •  kosmo
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{quote} Well done Jo.....very nice
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Thank you, Professor
mind over matter
 
 
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  •  PipMonster1
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  •  realjumper
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Good on you Jamz. You know where I live.....lets have coffee and talk about this. I have the coffee...bring the cookies!
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
 
 
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  •  Jamz
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{quote} Good on you Jamz. You know where I live.....lets have coffee and talk about this. I have the coffee...bring the cookies!
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Cheers folks, yes, but I can do wonderful trades too! It is a missing something that really is frustrating and I just can't find it yet......still....I have some great ideas and a good setup computer wise and better still, the time to put in. It is that unteachable something.......I wasn't bad at school ........promise!
Mint creams I am thinking.....
 
 
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  • Oct 19, 2013 3:15am Oct 19, 2013 3:15am
  •  realjumper
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Ok...regarding the +10 pips poll....

Yes = 13

No = 1

I haven't included those who PM'd me.....you guys and girls can have you say when you are members of the thread...with all due respect

Now, the reason I asked the question is this...there are many people who may think 'others are making 40 - 70 and I can't do that'. Well neither could I, or Marty or anyone else without doing the 'hard yards' first. It's the same when you learn to walk...you learn to crawl, then you take a few steps, and gradually build up to running. No one can show you how to run the 100 in under 10 seconds.....that takes time and practice and practice and practice. Same for riding a bike, swimming or anything else.

Trading is the same.....once you understand the system, you have taken your first (very wobbly) step......and that's all. You haven't 'cracked' FX trading at all (if that's possible).....all you have done is take the first step. You ARE GOING TO FALL OVER...and skin your hands and knees.....that I can promise you. When we started to walk, we had bruises and grazes on our hands and knees all the time! Same with trading.....our accounts may go 2 steps forward and one back......one step forward and two back.....three steps forward and two back etc etc. That's the learning process in action!! That's also the painful reality, and that's why we trade with a small percentage of our account balance....because we want to try again tomorrow, and the next day, and the next day. If we blow all our money on a few trades, we have lost our 'stake', and now we can't trade.....or continue the learning process.

So....as we have been saying, preservation of capital is of paramount importance.

But all's not lost, there is a way to become modestly profitable and all it takes is 10 pips per day and....the holy grail of trading....*patience*.

A while back I was given a spreadsheet to work from, but it didn't quite suit my project. PM1 has kindly modified this for me earlier on this year, and I was going to start on the project in August. However....the best laid plans and all that....due to many factors (changing brokers, Mums eyes etc) I have been unable to start it until now...and now I'm not going to start it until January so that I can make this next test for the calendar year. So in January I will start the project and give updates on progress from time to time.

However, I want to share with you some 'do-able' facts and figures....firstly revolving around our +10 pips/day.

* The project will start on January 12 2014.
* The daily target is 10 pips.
* These figures allow for weekends, but not public holidays.
* These figures do not allow for withdrawals
* These figures do not allow for negative days (or less than 10 pips)
* These figures do not allow for bonus days (more than 10 pips)


The 'lot size' is determined by the account balance. So eg

Account balance = $500 then lot size = 0.05
Account balance = $600 then lot size = 0.06
Account balance = $700 then lot size = 0.07
Account balance = $1000 then lot size = 0.10
Account balance = $1200 then lot size = 0.12
Account balance = $1800 then lot size = 0.18
Account balance = $3500 then lot size = 0.35
Account balance = $6000 then lot size = 0.60
etc etc etc

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Example 1

12-Jan-2014
Opening Balance = $500
Daily Target = 10 pips

17-Jan-2014
Closing Balance = $530

28-Feb-2014
Closing Balance = $696

30-April-2014
Closing Balance = $1,043

30-June-2014
Closing Balance = $1,573

29-Aug-2014
Closing Balance = $2,410

31-Oct-2014
Closing Balance = $3,745

31-Dec-2014
Closing Balance = $5,716

In this example (10 pips/day), we turned $500 into $5,716. Show me another way of making that kind of a return on $500 in 12 months!!

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Example 2

12-Jan-2014
Opening Balance = $1,000
Daily Target = 10 pips

17-Jan-2014
Closing Balance = $1,060

28-Feb-2014
Closing Balance = $1,410

30-April-2014
Closing Balance = $2,136

30-June-2014
Closing Balance = $3,249

29-Aug-2014
Closing Balance = $5,007

31-Oct-2014
Closing Balance = $7,811

31-Dec-2014
Closing Balance = $11,961

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So there you have it.....this is based on just 10 pips / day.......and most people can do 10 pips / day!

Yes, the figures don't allow for losses or withdrawal......but they also don't allow for days when you exceed 10 pips......and that can happen easily as you have seen Cold_W do recently

We don't need to feel sad if all we made is 10 pips......and we don't need to feel like losers because some people got 130 pips and we only got 30. Who cares?......30 is heaps!!!!

If you can do 10 pips/day, not only are you going to make a huge profit at the end of the year, but by the end of the year, if you check your actual average, I bet you it is better than 10 pips/day!!!

Now.....before I shut up and go have some coffee and chip away at the first PDF.....lets repeat the same study as above, but this time based on 30 pips / day.

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Example 3

12-Jan-2014
Opening Balance = $500
Daily Target = 30 pips

17-Jan-2014
Closing Balance = $590

28-Feb-2014
Closing Balance = $1,580

30-April-2014
Closing Balance = $4,718

30-June-2014
Closing Balance = $16,712

29-Aug-2014
Closing Balance = $61,232

31-Oct-2014
Closing Balance = $231,410

31-Dec-2014
Closing Balance = $824,756

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Example 4

12-Jan-2014
Opening Balance = $1,000
Daily Target = 30 pips

17-Jan-2014
Closing Balance = $1,186

28-Feb-2014
Closing Balance = $2,809

30-April-2014
Closing Balance = $9,874

30-June-2014
Closing Balance = $35,059

29-Aug-2014
Closing Balance = $128,605

31-Oct-2014
Closing Balance = $486,223

31-Dec-2014
Closing Balance = $1,733,029

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Do I have your attention now?
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
 
 
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  • Oct 19, 2013 4:12am Oct 19, 2013 4:12am
  •  Cold_W
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{quote} It is a missing something that really is frustrating and I just can't find it yet...
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I know EXACTLY what you're talking about, Jamz...
This is something very hard to explain or teach. I guess it just comes to trader who is committed and patient enough.
It took me a year to start making very modest profit with the system. And I know it'll take another 2-3 years to start "walking" as RJ put it.

Anyways, you're very lucky because you can actually meet RJ and talk to him about your trading! I wish I could have just a brief meeting with Master RJ!
 
 
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  • Oct 19, 2013 4:17am Oct 19, 2013 4:17am
  •  antantnz
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Yes, yes you do!

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Ok...regarding the +10 pips poll.... Yes = 13 No = 1
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Been away from the thread for a bit, for me I would be a "qualified" yes ... the qualification being, when I'm doing things properly.

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Hang in there Jamz ... I only recently seem to have turned the corner (and still need to prove my consistency to myself over a decent timeframe) ... but I think RJ's analogy to learning to walk is a good one.
1 pip at a time ... if the entries are strong, the rest will follow ...
 
 
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  • Oct 19, 2013 4:56am Oct 19, 2013 4:56am
  •  erksa
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I receive PM's on a daily basis, mostly from people who wish to join our thread. I reply to those people that I will put their names on a list, and when we are able, we will work through the list and accept those who we feel deserve it. It's my decision, it's a team decision. Other PM's I get are from people who can't post to the thread so they think they can ask me their questions directly . It's very rare that I will even respond to those PM's because and help I can offer is reserved for thread, where we can discuss these issues. I have...
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YES !!
Imparo ancora
 
 
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  •  kosmo
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You will succeed, Jamz! It's just a question of time...
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  •  wiz3003
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{quote} You will succeed, Jamz! It's just a question of time... {image}
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I love you kosmo, you are a genius. Amazing and inspirational picture

.... and thank you very much for my new voucher, I don't deserve it
You control how you trade; the market controls how and when you'll get paid
 
 
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  • Oct 19, 2013 12:32pm Oct 19, 2013 12:32pm
  •  kosmo
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{quote} I love you kosmo, you are a genius. Amazing and inspirational picture .... and thank you very much for my new voucher, I don't deserve it
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OMG! Now you made me blush too

I am no genius, Wiz. But I have a dream, and I strongly believe in it. You helped me along the way by sharing your knowledge and insights. No one here has any doubts that you are a highly skilled trader, so vouching for you is the least I can do to express my gratitude and respect. Just as Marty, you are many levels above me. The vouching system is simply imperfect in reflecting that
mind over matter
 
 
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  • Oct 19, 2013 4:14pm Oct 19, 2013 4:14pm
  •  PipMonster1
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{quote} You will succeed, Jamz! It's just a question of time... {image}
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Genius kosmo,

I'm printing that in A3 and it's going up on my wall !!!!! That sums up how we all feel .............

PM1
 
 
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  • Oct 19, 2013 4:43pm Oct 19, 2013 4:43pm
  •  jurtzi
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Sorry I'm late for the poll...
my vote is... no.
But perhaps it's more a "not yet but getting there"
Many many thanks to you all
Good judgement comes from experience, experience comes from poor judgement
 
 
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  •  Fame of me
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since the first time ;-)
 
 
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  •  Jamz
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Thanks CW, I'm getting there slowly but a lot slower than I thought it would take. I must not test patience with the market because I know who will win.
Great Kosmo, that is so apt, I have been recalling a gold fever story just like that this week that an older guy told me and a mate when we were teenagers and we were ready to head off into the south Island bush to go goldmining the next day! That seam of gold is just there -- don't give up!

Account is still there - I seem to be able to keep at a level and not wipe out - I believe that is a step in the achievement of success.
 
 
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  •  Skat
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{quote}.Anyways, you're very lucky because you can actually meet RJ and talk to him about your trading! I wish I could have just a brief meeting with Master RJ!
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same
 
 
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  • Oct 20, 2013 5:33pm Oct 20, 2013 5:33pm
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Quoting Cold_W
{quote}.Anyways, you're very lucky because you can actually meet RJ and talk to him about your trading! I wish I could have just a brief meeting with Master RJ!
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{quote} same
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Yes, I am privileged to be sure but just to say, the charts are the same, the advice is great but here on the thread too, optimism, humour -- so I'm guessing it's the coffee and caramel creams you're missing out on. I do imagine our chartered cruiseboat going.......somewhere with good trading hours that's for sure!!!

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/i...zWbQGvAHszo3wp
 
 
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  • Oct 20, 2013 6:34pm Oct 20, 2013 6:34pm
  •  realjumper
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Quoting Cold_W {quote}.Anyways, you're very lucky because you can actually meet RJ and talk to him about your trading! I wish I could have just a brief meeting with Master RJ! {quote} Yes, I am privileged to be sure but just to say, the charts are the same, the advice is great but here on the thread too, optimism, humour -- so I'm guessing it's the coffee and caramel creams you're missing out on. I do imagine our chartered cruiseboat going.......somewhere with good trading...
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LOL...love the cruise boat....I'm gonna book myself on that one!!
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
 
 
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  • Oct 20, 2013 7:18pm Oct 20, 2013 7:18pm
  •  jjre65
  • | Joined Mar 2013 | Status: Nil Mortalibus Ardui Est | 649 Posts
Hi to everybody

Attached is something I put together for myself, but thought it might be of some help to others who are not trading as well as they would like, and despite the system, not making even 10 pips per day.

Cheers J.
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File Type: pdf Trading Style 2013 V1.pdf   256 KB | 1 download
Winning isnt everything but coming second sucks (Charlie Brown)
 
 
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