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  • #60,381
  • Oct 1, 2013 1:41am Oct 1, 2013 1:41am
Quoting loeil
NO MORE PVSRA TRADES!!! ..for me.. 37 pvsra trades still opened, let those run, but no more pvsra trades.. {image} {quote} Yes USA can f...k up everything, but isn't that weird that somebody (we don't know WHO) bought GU all the night? Why? And who wants to buy now, after more than 1000 pips raise and price is reached to the very very strong resistance area. Because very bad news for USD means that GU will continue this uptrend. Tricky parts will come in this week.

PVSRA failed!
  • #60,382
  • Oct 1, 2013 1:44am Oct 1, 2013 1:44am
Quoting Msis125125
Well I have tanked my account on GU, margin call today at 1.620, whoever gone long on GU spend my money wisely! 15k Euro of sorrow!

15k!

Destroyed accounts overall, ten thousands of real USD loss. People, get warned, PVSRA failed.
  • #60,383
  • Oct 1, 2013 1:48am Oct 1, 2013 1:48am
Quoting futurespeter
{quote} PVSRA failed!
Maybe PVSRA works in some conditions, I don't now. But those conditions just does not work for me

But never mind, I have a new analysis now, which works great. Just trend with the trend, trade what you see and you are safe!

I hope that day will come once when I can close all my old PVSRA trades. I don't even hope that day will come soon, but 2-3 months should be great
Whatever is obvious is obviously wrong!"
  • #60,384
  • Oct 1, 2013 1:58am Oct 1, 2013 1:58am
Quoting futurespeter
{quote} PVSRA failed!

PVSRA = Price + Volume + S/R Analysis. So, how was it fail ? If you analyse wrong, you will fail. Not PVSRA.
Keep learning until you die :-)
  • #60,385
  • Oct 1, 2013 1:58am Oct 1, 2013 1:58am
Quoting futurespeter
{quote} 15k! Destroyed accounts overall, ten thousands of real USD loss. People, get warned, PVSRA failed.
Have you thought that it is exactly what MMs wants? This is the biggest forex forum in the world and this sonic thread is the most popular thread in the world! If you are the MM and you see that a lot of traders following by one analysis/method, so what you do? Trade with them or against to them? Because our (small traders) money is the easiest money what they get. Then why not to take it?
Whatever is obvious is obviously wrong!"
  • #60,386
  • Oct 1, 2013 1:59am Oct 1, 2013 1:59am
A simple reality check.....the US Givernment is in a Partial ShutDown.

This means that the US Dollar is going to be VERY volatile and can be expected to be SOLD whilst the news remains unclear and BOUGHT when there is any sign of a deal.

So Euro and GBP can be expected to rally - € not so much as there are problems in Italy, Greece and Portugal....but this years high at 1.3710 is an easy target. GBP has good housing news and a better outlook, so the chart that I posted in July showing three waves up will probably now make a fourth wave up....that is up to the 1.6600 area

Just probabilities.....Trade your own signals.....
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  • #60,387
  • Oct 1, 2013 2:06am Oct 1, 2013 2:06am
Quoting futurespeter
{quote} PVSRA failed!

The usage of Price volume, support, resistance to trade hasnt failed. It may be just the reasoning that we used was flawed. Just because theres a green spike doesnt mean there are shorts, i think. PVSRA as we used it fails to take into account genuine buying interest, which was pointed out by someone. If you analyse how sonic trades, he knows volume insanely well, as well as support and resistance. so i dont think PVSRA, has failed.
  • #60,388
  • Oct 1, 2013 2:08am Oct 1, 2013 2:08am
Quoting Islander
A simple reality check.....the US Givernment is in a Partial ShutDown. This means that the US Dollar is going to be VERY volatile and can be expected to be SOLD whilst the news remains unclear and BOUGHT when there is any sign of a deal. So Euro and GBP can be expected to rally - € not so much as there are problems in Italy, Greece and Portugal....but this years high at 1.3710 is an easy target. GBP has good housing news and a better outlook, so the chart that I posted in July showing three waves up will probably now make a fourth wave up....that...
which indicator are you using that shows verified/untested S/R counts?
  • #60,389
  • Oct 1, 2013 2:09am Oct 1, 2013 2:09am
Quote: "Trade your own signals"....

and I did.....I bought € and GBP and sold UJ.....
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  • #60,390
  • Oct 1, 2013 2:12am Oct 1, 2013 2:12am
Quoting sachin1361
{quote} which indicator are you using that shows verified/untested S/R counts?

Please keep up to date with the thread.....I posted that information only yesterday morning!
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  • #60,391
  • Edited 2:26am Oct 1, 2013 2:13am | Edited 2:26am
Quoting Islander
A simple reality check.....the US Givernment is in a Partial ShutDown. This means that the US Dollar is going to be VERY volatile and can be expected to be SOLD whilst the news remains unclear and BOUGHT when there is any sign of a deal. So Euro and GBP can be expected to rally - € not so much as there are problems in Italy, Greece and Portugal....but this years high at 1.3710 is an easy target. GBP has good housing news and a better outlook, so the chart that I posted in July showing three waves up will probably now make a fourth wave up....that...
Thank you for saying that there isn't chance that our old PVSRA trades can ever close with profit

Actually you could be right and of course wrong too, because we don't ever know what is their plan there.
Whatever is obvious is obviously wrong!"
  • #60,392
  • Oct 1, 2013 2:22am Oct 1, 2013 2:22am
Quoting loeil
{quote} Thank you for saying that there isn't change that our old PVSRA trades can ever close with profit Actually you could be right and of course wrong too, because we don't ever know what is their plan there.
I think that you wanted to say " there is no CHANCE that".......

and of course I can be wrong, I was only showing that there is a good PROBABILITY that I will be partially correct.....

Now, no more posts from me, there are pips to be plundered

PS there was a 38% retrace in € and cable retraced to the 1m dragon.....
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  • #60,393
  • Oct 1, 2013 2:27am Oct 1, 2013 2:27am
Quoting Islander
{quote} I think that you wanted to say " there is no CHANCE that"....... and of course I can be wrong, I was only showing that there is a good PROBABILITY that I will be partially correct..... Now, no more posts from me, there are pips to be plundered PS there was a 38% retrace in € and cable retraced to the 1m dragon.....
CHANCE of course.. so blinded by MMs
Whatever is obvious is obviously wrong!"
  • #60,394
  • Edited 3:04am Oct 1, 2013 2:38am | Edited 3:04am
Quoting trihhnguyen
{quote} PVSRA = Price + Volume + S/R Analysis. So, how was it fail ? If you analyse wrong, you will fail. Not PVSRA.
PVSRA is Alive and Well!

trihhnguyen,

You are absolutely correct. PVSRA is an analysis, nothing more. And this has been repeated from the start. Also what has been repeated from the start is that bull MMs can move price both ways; to build and to profit. Bear MMs can move price both ways; to build and to profit. Where I and others have suffered is from building while the MMs build. They can be "wrong" longer! The option, which also has been discussed repeatedly here, is to only enter trades when the PVSRA indication and the trend are the same.

I am doing that and already banked 1,050 pips this week! The trades involved have all been posted right here on the Sonic R. System thread:
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...94#post6995194
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...64#post6997464
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...86#post6997786

PVSRA is alive and well,
-tah

P.S: Yes, I too suffer with trade components getting killed off; some more even today. By the time this is all over with (When? Next month? Year end?) I suspect the tracking account will be only 1/2 to 1/3 what I had begun to hope for, as things started taking off. High expectations aside, it will turn out to represent very respectable gain based on the big hits taken and how much the account still is.
  • #60,395
  • Oct 1, 2013 2:54am Oct 1, 2013 2:54am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} PVSRA is Alive and Well! trihhnguyen, You are absolutely correct. PVSRA is an analysis, nothing more. And this has been repeated from the start. Also what has been repeated from the start is that bull MMs can move price both ways; to build and to profit. Bear MMs can move price both ways; to build and to profit. Where I and others have suffered is from building while the MMs build. They can be "wrong" longer! The option, which also has been discussed repeatedly here, is to only enter trades when the PVSRA indication and the trend are the...

Tah, YOU are responsible for YOUR crashed accounts. Forget really fast? Margin call? 70,000 pips sunken. All your 18 ignored traders are correct, your arrogant postings, forget them all? And now you are proud because you did make 1,050 pips? Poor guy, who you are! Man, YOU and YOUR PVSRA shit failed. Sorry for sonic and all here you that you play stupid PVSRA demo game as before, you should be FIRED from here. This is my last post here in ff, be happy because I gone.
  • #60,396
  • Edited 3:46am Oct 1, 2013 3:11am | Edited 3:46am
Quoting futurespeter
{quote} Tah, YOU are responsible for YOUR crashed accounts. Forget really fast? Margin call? 70,000 pips sunken. All your 18 ignored traders are correct, your arrogant postings, forget them all? And now you are proud because you did make 1,050 pips? Poor guy, who you are! Man, YOU and YOUR PVSRA shit failed. Sorry for sonic and all here you that you play stupid PVSRA demo game as before, you should be FIRED from here. This is my last post here in ff, be happy because I gone.
PVSRA = $1,000 to $6,000 in Nine Months, in Spite of the Market and Trader Mistakes!

Futurespeter,

You are exaggerating. As it stands, in nine months $1,000 has grown to more than $6,000. Yes, it was higher, and will be again. Anyway you look at it, that is not exactly a state of "crashed accounts".

Personally, I have learned a lot from the PVSRA in-work project and already I have modified and continue to profit after taking losses from which I have learned.

From the way you talk, you refuse to learn and instead are going to walk away. Did you expect the in-work project to be a bed of roses? Did you expect it to show you nothing you did not already know and therefore that there would be no gain and no pain?

And what about all of the others that never even heard of PVSRA and yet are getting wiped out by this market? After all, the market is doing what it is doing for that very purpose.

If you want to place blame, you can look to your own trading decisions as well as the manipulative market that you decided to trade. It sounds like you took on more than you were capable of handling, then handled it badly and failed, and in a highly manipulated market to boot! And now, as an exercise of immaturity, you want to blame others. We are all responsible for our own trading decisions. And you know that.

I am sorry to hear about your loss. I repeated until I was blue in the face that one must trade very, very light relative to account size. In fact, I have been saying this for years. There isn't anything I could have done that I did not do to warn. I myself, even trading very, very light relative to account(s) sizes have recently experienced some margin calls. That tells you what a unique market this has been over the summer months up to now. This too, was talked about before it ever happened, in case some day it might happen. Well, it is happening. It is a business expense and that is how we have to look at it. I am not going to complain. I am going to reflect, make adjustments and proceed. That is an alternative choice to packing up and walking away, which anyone can make.

-tah
  • #60,397
  • Oct 1, 2013 3:31am Oct 1, 2013 3:31am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} UJ Long Trade: Increased target just a bit, and also the Stop that locks in some profits. As with EJ, I see the consolidation as bullish. Based on the day range PA could reach the upper whole number, but with this pair I am being conservative for now. {image}
Hi TAH,

Are those lines EPs drawn by an indicator, kindly share it if it is.

Thanks
Ron.
  • #60,398
  • Oct 1, 2013 3:52am Oct 1, 2013 3:52am
Quoting lvdfx888
{quote} Hi TAH, Are those lines EPs drawn by an indicator, kindly share it if it is. Thanks Ron.

They are drawn by an unreleased version of SonicR Trade Levels first released with the last package of TAH indys and templates (get thru link in post #1).

Several folks have been/are working on Trade Levels. qFish has a version that is very functional, many more features than what is released. What you see on my charts is more like the simple one released, but with some fixes.

Either or both might be in the next release. Neither is ready for release.
  • #60,399
  • Oct 1, 2013 3:56am Oct 1, 2013 3:56am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} They are drawn by an unreleased version of SonicR Trade Levels first released with the last package of TAH indys and templates (get thru link in post #1). Several folks have been/are working on Trade Levels. qFish has a version that is very functional, many more features than what is released. What you see on my charts is more like the simple one released, but with some fixes. Either or both might be in the next release. Neither is ready for release.
Thanks TAH for your reply.
  • #60,400
  • Oct 1, 2013 4:11am Oct 1, 2013 4:11am
Picked up +8.3 Pips in USD-JPY Long it just hit the 38.2
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