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  • #60,241
  • Sep 27, 2013 12:22pm Sep 27, 2013 12:22pm
Quoting hansma
{quote} Agree with you on this one. H. {image}
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  • #60,242
  • Sep 27, 2013 12:52pm Sep 27, 2013 12:52pm
EU looks like a bit TOPPISH
i like this word
I think next week the gap will be closed
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Everything is possible!!! Step by Step...
  • #60,243
  • Sep 27, 2013 3:51pm Sep 27, 2013 3:51pm
Quoting sonicdeejay
{quote} I love Sir TAH... and I found that we are on the opposite side most of the time.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L53gjP-TtGE I am glad.. Sonic
Right On, Sir.. mkt has the way to meet both conditions.

Great call...N gd morning

Sonic
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  • #60,244
  • Sep 27, 2013 5:30pm Sep 27, 2013 5:30pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} PVSRA, UJ: Bull or Bear? PVSRA said "Bear". So I traded short. Now the question is,.....will price reach my target? {image}
Tah,

Great trade and analysis. I got stopped out of my UJ long.
  • #60,245
  • Sep 27, 2013 5:38pm Sep 27, 2013 5:38pm
Quoting sonicdeejay
{quote} Right On, Sir.. mkt has the way to meet both conditions. Great call...N gd morning Sonic {image}

Its actually amazing how many places you can enter and if you have time and patience you can make $ in Either direction...most time frame chart will show- of course there are exceptions but quite amazing the algorithms used by smart money to fool the average trader. We will figure it out -pvsra can help
Entries in the wicks over and over **PVSRA rules!
  • #60,246
  • Sep 27, 2013 6:27pm Sep 27, 2013 6:27pm
i explain why i think Tah's pvsra is NOT reliable to follow.
i was read his pvsra pdf document 130page ebook and also other kind of document too.
first problem is..his mql code is not perfect ,meaning it very liable to misleading to other direction i sure his volume indicator much of time misleading
and more problem is ..even though volume indicator perfect it hard to predict mm's thought and way of direction but how could predict correctly mm's intention with faulty crude indicator? do you guys think only several kind of line of code can make you holy grail?? for example...
his indicator showing 5 green bar and 2 red but actually 6 green and 10 red bar should have to show? if so your guy can decide way of direction correctly????
EP 1,2,3,4,5,,,, lol...really way of blow out your account easily.
i want to ask . vsa can predict future way of direction exactly?? as i see in here thread all here trader just guessing.....
i was studied james16 thread. vsa's upthrust same like pinbar doji..whatever..it same. really pity. much of guy are looking for holy grail in here.
what is pvsra key point?? pump and dump?? if your guy really want to study then study about VSA . VSA is not just like easy method pump and dump and not guessing work.
  • #60,247
  • Sep 28, 2013 1:19am Sep 28, 2013 1:19am
Quoting Islander
The first two entries were first buying after the initial pull back and then reversing after the Lower High at the +500 level / **25 level... After those two, normal Three Dragons.....entries off the Dragon Proxy and exits ~levels with increased volumes.... {image}
Nice trades capt. How did you set up the dotted boundary lines shown i.e for 500 EMA/dragon and the other dragons? Thanks
  • #60,248
  • Sep 28, 2013 1:23am Sep 28, 2013 1:23am
Quoting james27
first problem is..his mql code is not perfect...
If you know how it should be to be better, why do not you enhance the code and share it with the others here? Or do you like just talking about it?

For sure the TAH's volume indicator is based up on the better volume one. The only problem is that different brokers show us the different volumes.
Hunting High and Low
  • #60,249
  • Sep 28, 2013 3:48am Sep 28, 2013 3:48am
Quoting DmitryFX
{quote} Forex is easy! Fast MA below Slow MA Retracement to Fibo Confirmation from volumes Trade Fast pips taken Repeat
When you talk about Confirmation from volumes, what exactly you mean?
  • #60,250
  • Sep 28, 2013 4:28am Sep 28, 2013 4:28am
Quoting dktbigfoot
{quote} When you talk about Confirmation from volumes, what exactly you mean?
Bearish candle with increased volume for shorts, and Bullish candle with increased volumes for longs.
Everything is possible!!! Step by Step...
  • #60,251
  • Sep 28, 2013 6:30am Sep 28, 2013 6:30am
To James27

Dear James27,

You are only here at Forex Factory since sometime in June 2013. You have been at other threads, but wherever you have been you have not demonstrated that you know one iota of what you talk about. Your comments on the Sonic R. System thread demonstrate how ignorant you are.

Here is a lesson for you, free of charge. Folks don't listen to someone that has not demonstrated staying power in the forex market. You have no credentials. All of we Sonicers know it is your arrogance, not your wisdom, that has you passing out advice that hasn't been asked for, and is not even good advice.

First, become a surviving trader. Then start posting real-time trades to demonstrate. Then maybe: (1) what you have to say will not be so stupid, and (2) others will listen to you instead of laughing at you. Until you do that, your "....words are like leaves, and where they most abound, much fruit of sense beneath is rarely found." - Alexander Pope (1688-1744), British poet. Essay on Criticism ...

-traderathome
  • #60,252
  • Sep 28, 2013 7:13am Sep 28, 2013 7:13am
where is end of up trend for GU ?
I see maximum UP in daily& weekly and monthly range level 1.6247 - 1.6297
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  • #60,253
  • Sep 28, 2013 7:51am Sep 28, 2013 7:51am
where is end of up trend for EU ?
I see maximum UP in weekly and monthly range level 1.3650 - 1.3710
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  • #60,254
  • Edited 10:11am Sep 28, 2013 9:52am | Edited 10:11am
Quoting dariush00750
where is end of up trend for GU ? I see maximum UP in daily& weekly and monthly range level 1.6247 - 1.6297 {image} {image} {image}
Quoting dariush00750
where is end of up trend for EU ? I see maximum UP in weekly and monthly range level 1.3650 - 1.3710 {image} {image}
Where is End of Up Trend?

dariush00750,

Are you asking, or suggesting?

If you are asking, it is not a question we should be asking ourselves because we can never know in which direction the market will move price, nor how far. It is arrogant to believe otherwise.

If you are suggesting, then you might have a bias, a dangerous bias to upside and the market might at any time slam prices down.

I am not criticizing you. I am only concerned that we Sonicers do not look at price history for anything more than possible S&R areas which we should be cognizant of in the event price is moved to such areas. The history of price has no affect on the future of price except as regards S&R. In which direction price will next move, and how far it will move are two things we can never know. But we do need to know about historic S&R areas in case price moves close in towards one.

The "market" (the "MMs", or Market Manipulators as I call those in the market that are capable of moving price) will determine how the price will next move, and how far. They might already have their minds made up, or they might not! And if they have not yet made up their minds, we certainly ought not to be convincing ourselves where price is going to! We can only trade what we see to the best of our ability to discern what might be the near term intent of the market MMs based on:

1. Current candles on large TF charts (like Week/Day/H4) to see if there are particularly "suggesting" situations such as pin bars/hammers/engulfing.
2. Dragon and Trend angles, and their relationships to each other, as well as to PA, as measures of movement momentum.
3. Price action and volume in the vicinity of key S&R levels, or PVSRA, as an indication of whether the market is currently bull or bear.

-tah
  • #60,255
  • Sep 28, 2013 10:34am Sep 28, 2013 10:34am
Quoting dariush00750
where is end of up trend for EU ? I see maximum UP in weekly and monthly range level 1.3650 - 1.3710 {image} {image}
I'm not sure why 1.3650-1.3710 is a "maximum Up" by looking at the weekly & monthly charts. It's the next resistance area but it could go much higher if that area breaks.
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  • #60,256
  • Edited 10:58am Sep 28, 2013 10:44am | Edited 10:58am
Where is End of Up Trend (Continued)?

Ok, let's consider GU and let's keep this simple.

First off, we cannot know how the MMs will next move price, nor how far. We ought not to be predicting. What we can see, using large TF charts and moving down thru them is the following:

1. Month chart shows upper TLs to price action, and the more recent TL is declined from the longer term TL. This "suggests" weakness.
2. Week chart shows last week hit the lower TL, but this week did not and it had lower volume. This "suggests" weakness.
3. Day chart shows the biggest volume in more than five weeks is for a strong bear bar, a bear bar coming down off the highest price in a very long time. It also shows that Friday the MMs attempted to push the price back up to those highs on far less volume. This "suggests" weakness.
4. M15 chart confirms the rising price Friday was on falling volume, particularly once the US MMs began trading. It also shows a spike up during the process, which is typical when MMs quickly take advantage of liquidity they see "above", liquidity that they can use to get more short orders filled at higher prices. This "suggests" the MMs are bears.

Where will the price go next? Only the MMs will know that, once they make up their minds. However, this very basic analysis of PA, volume and S&R (TLs in this case),....PVSRA......"suggests" the near term intent of the MMs is to build shorts at the highest prices they can, but that liquidity for shorting at these prices might be on the decline.

-tah
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  • #60,257
  • Sep 28, 2013 11:01am Sep 28, 2013 11:01am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} {quote} Where is End of Up Trend? dariush00750, Are you asking, or suggesting? If you are asking, it is not a question we should be asking ourselves because we can never know in which direction the market will move price, nor how far. It is arrogant to believe otherwise. If you are suggesting, then you might have a bias, a dangerous bias to upside and the market might at any time slam prices down. I am not criticizing you. I am only concerned that we Sonicers do not look at price history for anything more than possible S&R areas which we...
Are you asking, or suggesting?
traderathome:
Thank you for the comment:

1 - Sorry, my English is not good
2 - I think it was something that I and only includes most of the math tells me.
3 - When the market than expected, and without any modification to the move seems to have looked at the long-term market-based tools that expected to have a certain extent,. And then when we sign the deal to be completed. So it's time for a new transaction, based on the short term and will go well with your strategy.
4- I like sonic strategy but i dont professional like you and sonicers. And I just have to see and think others may be used.
5 - You are right that I announced that range may not be seen, but if there were signs of improvement should be completely revised must be trade.

Sorry, this comment has been written with the help of Google Translate.
  • #60,258
  • Sep 28, 2013 11:32am Sep 28, 2013 11:32am
PVSRA Results for 1st Twenty Six Weeks
The following are the results of my trading the Sonic R. System using PVSRA to determine if it is a bull or bear market, and then trading the price action I see.

Week ending 04/05
1289 pips gained, 7 trades totaling 19 parts (18 parts winners), averaging 67+ pips per each of all parts.

Week ending 04/12
1891 pips gained, 9 trades totaling 28 parts (all parts winners), averaging 67+ pips per each of all parts.

Week ending 04/19
2160 pips gained, 9 trades totaling 31 parts (29 parts winners), averaging 69+ pips per each of all parts.

Week ending 04/26
2640 pips gained, 6 trades totaling 34 parts (all parts winners), averaging 77+ pips per each of all parts.

Week ending 05/03
2530 pips gained, 6 trades totaling 24 parts (23 parts winners), averaging 105+ pips per each of all parts.

Week ending 05/10
3050 pips gained, 7 trades totaling 33 parts (all parts winners), averaging 92+ pips per each of all parts.

Week ending 05/17
1590 pips gained, 7 trades totaling 16 parts (all parts winners), averaging 99+ pips per each of all parts.

Week ending 05/24
3980 pips gained, 7 trades totaling 40 parts (33 parts winners), averaging 99+ pips per each of all parts.

Week ending 05/31
4003 pips gained, 5 trades totaling 37 parts (34 parts winners), averaging 108+ pips per each of all parts.

Week ending 06/07
9813 pips gained, 9 trades totaling 61 parts (53 parts winners), averaging 160+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 06/14
3900 pips gained, 2 trades totaling 15 parts (all parts winners), averaging 260+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 06/21
4620 pips gained, 3 trades totaling 33 parts (all parts winners), averaging 140+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 06/28
12,120 pips gained, 8 trades totaling 86 parts (82 parts winners), averaging 140+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 07/05
3,440 pips gained, 2 trades totaling 22 parts (18 parts winners), averaging 156+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 07/12
14,143 pips gained, 11 trades totaling 125 parts (115 parts winners), averaging 113+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 07/19
215 pips gained, 2 trades totaling 7 parts (all parts winners), averaging 30+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 07/26
1,170 pips gained, 2 trades totaling 25 parts (16 parts winners), averaging 46+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 08/02
10,850 pips gained, 8 trades totaling 102 parts (87 parts winners), averaging 106+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 08/09
7,784 pips gained, 4 trades totaling 72 parts (50 parts winners), averaging 108+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 08/16
(-250) pips gained, 1 trades totaling 3 parts (0 parts winners), averaging -83+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 08/23
6,750 pips gained, 3 trades totaling 49 parts (42 parts winners), averaging 137+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 08/30
6,785 pips gained, 8 trades totaling 68 parts (64 parts winners), averaging 99+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 09/06
178 pips gained, 2 trades totaling 6 parts (all parts winners), averaging 29+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 09/13
2,330 pips gained, 3 trades totaling 40 parts (34 parts winners), averaging 58+ pips per each of all parts

Week ending 09/20
64,268 pips lost, 8 trades totaling 107 parts (6 parts winners), averaging -600 pips per each of all parts

Week ending 09/27
364 pips gained, 4 trades totaling 16 parts (8 parts winners), averaging 22+ pips per each of all parts

All of these trades, all of the trade parts thereof, were posted real-time right here on the Sonic R. System thread, using crystal clear easy to understand charts and explanations regarding PVSRA reasons for entries, whether Classic or Scout trades.

Summary Week Twenty Six
42,077 pips banked.
22,993 pips current draw down (net loss of all open PVSRA trades).
19,084 pips net gain (pips banked plus net loss of all open PVSRA trades).
734 pips weekly average net profit (weekly average net profit if all open PVSRA trades instantly closed).

Additional Remarks
I have one open non-PVSRA trade (first entered many months prior to PVSRA) that is down 18,592 pips (EJ short).

Final Remarks
I did not trade much this week. Had I not set a close-in SL on one trade, the number of winning trade components would have been substantially more and the pips gained would have been substantially more. The market spiked the price against the trade, and then went on to continue the trade direction.

-tah
  • #60,259
  • Sep 28, 2013 11:34am Sep 28, 2013 11:34am
Quoting srt
{quote} I'm not sure why 1.3650-1.3710 is a "maximum Up" by looking at the weekly & monthly charts. It's the next resistance area but it could go much higher if that area breaks. {image} {image}

You might be right in your estimations.
However I suppose the next week is about to be bearish. My arguments based on PA and VSA are as follows:

1/ The high of the last week bar is not higher than the previous week high. Weakness.
2/ The open price of the last week is equal to the close price of the previous week bar (even if there was a gap on the last monday). Weakness.
3/ Spread of the last week bar is the very small. The last bar is the inside bar. Weakness.
4/ On the daily chart we can see that the friday bar is closed in the middle area, presenting the test of the 3550 price level. Weakness.
5/ The volume of the last week is less than the volumes of the previous two weeks. Weakness.

Based on these estimations I might suggest that the upcoming week will be bearish. There is supposed to be a retrace to the 3310-3340 price area as a minimum.

Who knows?

Trade safely.
Hunting High and Low
  • #60,260
  • Sep 28, 2013 1:32pm Sep 28, 2013 1:32pm
Quoting sonicdeejay
{quote} you joined june 2013 and you "get" it??? {image} I am here for past 5 yrs and I still have alot to learn... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5d7EbtLb8ok Sonic
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