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  • #18,041
  • Sep 25, 2013 2:23pm Sep 25, 2013 2:23pm
There's no news releases today people..............might be quiet...............but stranger things have happened.............

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  • #18,042
  • Sep 25, 2013 2:25pm Sep 25, 2013 2:25pm
  •  Jamz
  • | Joined May 2012 | Status: Tops and bottoms are for bikinis | 798 Posts
Quoting PipMonster1
OMG................how??...................how??...........how did they lose from that "winning" position a week ago......................how???? PM1

Apparently it was the airplane techno stuff driving that huge wing sail, Kiwis pumped muscles and Larry had little motors with 500 computers lining them up......greatest comeback, wow!!! Tough.........tissues needed.......
  • #18,043
  • Sep 25, 2013 4:42pm Sep 25, 2013 4:42pm
Quoting PipMonster1
OMG................how??...................how??...........how did they lose from that "winning" position a week ago......................how???? PM1
One of life's great mysteries PM1....Team NZ snatched defeat from the jaws of victory!!
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  • #18,044
  • Sep 25, 2013 4:48pm Sep 25, 2013 4:48pm
Quoting realjumper
{quote} One of life's great mysteries PM1....Team NZ snatched defeat from the jaws of victory!!
Unfortunately my local online rag has an article titled " Biggest Choke in History " - bit unfair.................but close I think.

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  • #18,045
  • Sep 25, 2013 5:20pm Sep 25, 2013 5:20pm
Quoting PipMonster1
{quote} Unfortunately my local online rag has an article titled " Biggest Choke in History " - bit unfair.................but close I think. PM1
Well, we could dissect this until the cows come home, but at the end of the day, perhaps our guys were a bit too complacent. Oracle was in touch with their boats builder in Auckland, who stated (a few days ago) that he was sure that Oracle was a faster boat, just that the guys weren't sailing it properly and that they should watch TNZ sail instead of sleeping! Those guys followed the advice and put every waking moment into sailing the boat better, and the victories came......their boat was indeed faster, once they learned the fast way to sail it and our guys had no answer to that.

So credit where it's due, they deserved the win, but it doesn't bode well for the future of America's Cup yachting as long as Larry Ellison is calling the shots, which is sad. It's also sad that this will certainly blight the future career of Dean Barker.

But, to the crew of Oracle.....I toast them for a fantastic turn around, and having the guts to never quit......they thoroughly deserved the win and I hope they enjoy every moment of it.
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #18,046
  • Sep 25, 2013 5:56pm Sep 25, 2013 5:56pm
Quoting realjumper
{quote} So credit where it's due, they deserved the win, but it doesn't bode well for the future of America's Cup yachting as long as Larry Ellison is calling the shots, which is sad. It's also sad that this will certainly blight the future career of Dean Barker. But, to the crew of Oracle.....I toast them for a fantastic turn around, and having the guts to never quit......they thoroughly deserved the win and I hope they enjoy every moment of it.
It's a great spectacle watching those behemoths but is it really yacht racing???

Hat's off to the USA team for sure.

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  • #18,047
  • Sep 25, 2013 6:25pm Sep 25, 2013 6:25pm
Quoting PipMonster1
{quote} It's a great spectacle watching those behemoths but is it really yacht racing??? Hat's off to the USA team for sure. PM1
It's cheque book racing really. Personally I would like to see the whole thing return to 'proper' yacht racing, as in the 12 metre yachts used previously, where many countries could afford to compete. As you say, watching those catamarans scream all over the ocean at 45 knots is spectacular, but I'm not sure if America's Cup Regatta is the right place to do that when it excludes so many countries.

Our challenge cost $38 million....Ellison spent $300 million to keep the cup that he won in a court battle with Alinghi and I think it has got way out of hand now. Still....what can we do now?....we just have to hope that Ellison will pull his head in and put his cheque book away for the sake of the future of the America's Cup.
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #18,048
  • Sep 25, 2013 6:28pm Sep 25, 2013 6:28pm
Quoting realjumper
{quote} It's cheque book racing really. Personally I would like to see the whole thing return to 'proper' yacht racing, as in the 12 metre yachts used previously, where many countries could afford to compete. As you say, watching those catamarans scream all over the ocean at 45 knots is spectacular, but I'm not sure if America's Cup Regatta is the right place to do that when it excludes so many countries. Our challenge cost $38 million....Ellison spent $300 million to keep the cup that he won in a court battle with Alinghi and I think it has got...
Yep that would be good for all.

Nice little EJ trade this morning - partial profits at 18 pips and BE+1 for remainder.

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  • #18,049
  • Sep 25, 2013 6:33pm Sep 25, 2013 6:33pm
Quoting PipMonster1
{quote} Yep that would be good for all. Nice little EJ trade this morning - partial profits at 18 pips and BE+1 for remainder. PM1
Nice one for the EJ trade......I saw the sister move on GJ but the DP kept me out for the moment
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  • #18,050
  • Sep 25, 2013 10:55pm Sep 25, 2013 10:55pm
Ive just tuned in
What drove the Yen action during Tokyo......................cant find any news, was it just old fashioned volatility?

Very disappointing re ACup................but thats sport

J
Winning isnt everything but coming second sucks (Charlie Brown)
  • #18,051
  • Sep 25, 2013 10:58pm Sep 25, 2013 10:58pm
Quoting jjre65
Ive just tuned in What drove the Yen action during Tokyo......................cant find any news, was it just old fashioned volatility? Very disappointing re ACup................but thats sport J

Corporate tax cuts in Japan etc etc... http://www.forexlive.com/all/
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  • #18,052
  • Sep 25, 2013 11:06pm Sep 25, 2013 11:06pm
I go out for a quiet lunch with friend and what happens - all hell breaks loose on the Yen crosses....................that was an expensive lunch.............but LIFE comes first!! Oh well.

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  • #18,053
  • Sep 25, 2013 11:06pm Sep 25, 2013 11:06pm
Quoting realjumper
{quote} Corporate tax cuts in Japan etc etc... http://www.forexlive.com/all/
Thanks RJ
Winning isnt everything but coming second sucks (Charlie Brown)
  • #18,054
  • Sep 25, 2013 11:19pm Sep 25, 2013 11:19pm
Quoting PipMonster1
I go out for a quiet lunch with friend and what happens - all hell breaks loose on the Yen crosses....................that was an expensive lunch.............but LIFE comes first!! Oh well. PM1
Yeah...but we know that these 'out of the blue' bonuses aren't what grow the account really.....it's the methodical day to day collecting of pips that does that
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  • #18,055
  • Sep 25, 2013 11:26pm Sep 25, 2013 11:26pm
Quoting realjumper
{quote} It's cheque book racing really. Ellison spent $300 million to keep the cup that he won in a court battle...for the sake of the future of the America's Cup.
That has been the problem with the Americas cup for ages, yacht racing in courts, but I was blown away by the speed of those Catamarans, I mean going more than twice as fast as the wind...astonishing !!

Alan Bond won with a cheque book, and in and out of courts, and it has been that way pretty much since.

Americas cup has lost its way, dont know what it stands for. You cant even call it an American team (apart from the cheque book)
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  • #18,056
  • Sep 25, 2013 11:30pm Sep 25, 2013 11:30pm
Quoting realjumper
{quote} Yeah...but we know that these 'out of the blue' bonuses aren't what grow the account really.....it's the methodical day to day collecting of pips that does that
They definitely aren't but it would be a nice little bonus sitting here all day in 33C heat (Spring weather....hottest Sept on record)................let's say the cream on the cake.........

I think the a/c is going to get a workout this Summer.

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  • #18,057
  • Sep 25, 2013 11:31pm Sep 25, 2013 11:31pm
Quoting Martyfish
{quote} That has been the problem with the Americas cup for ages, yacht racing in courts, but I was blown away by the speed of those Catamarans, I mean going more than twice as fast as the wind...astonishing !! Alan Bond won with a cheque book, and in and out of courts, and it has been that way pretty much since. Americas cup has lost its way, dont know what it stands for. You cant even call it an American team (apart from the cheque book)
I agree Marty, and now that Ellison has retained the cup, I shudder to think where this will go to now. I really liked it when many countries competed, and all had a reasonably equal chance of winning, but if the cost of this 'sporting' event is going to keep escalating, then the America's Cup will die due to lack of competition. Very sad situation....
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #18,058
  • Sep 25, 2013 11:32pm Sep 25, 2013 11:32pm
Quoting PipMonster1
{quote} They definitely aren't but it would be a nice little bonus sitting here all day in 33C heat (Spring weather....hottest Sept on record)................let's say the cream on the cake......... I think the a/c is going to get a workout this Summer. PM1
Sooo jealous.....we had a nice 17 degree day today!!
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #18,059
  • Sep 25, 2013 11:33pm Sep 25, 2013 11:33pm
Quoting Martyfish
{quote} That has been the problem with the Americas cup for ages, yacht racing in courts, but I was blown away by the speed of those Catamarans, I mean going more than twice as fast as the wind...astonishing !! Alan Bond won with a cheque book, and in and out of courts, and it has been that way pretty much since. Americas cup has lost its way, dont know what it stands for. You cant even call it an American team (apart from the cheque book)
We just built a cutting edge keel and the US didn't like it.............

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  • #18,060
  • Sep 25, 2013 11:34pm Sep 25, 2013 11:34pm
Quoting realjumper
{quote} Sooo jealous.....we had a nice 17 degree day today!!
I love a Spring that's about 25C.......................I don't want Summer this early!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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