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  • #59,021
  • Edited 8:38am Sep 13, 2013 8:24am | Edited 8:38am
Quoting loeil
{quote} No need to shouting, I have traded by PVSRA and waiting the run for profits for 2 months now, like many other users! Sorry but I really don't believe that MMs preparing 2 months for running for profits
They are on Both Sides of the Fence

Indeed they can be! They can build some positions for over half a year, or even longer! And do not forget that they can be both bulls and bears, playing both sides of their up/down cyclic moves, and with virtually unlimited credit they have no need to be concerned about time at all, especially if they are continuing to rake in profits off of one play or another, while bigger plays are still being constructed.

The reason the "big boys" hardly ever loose, if ever, is that "...they can be 'wrong' longer!" Loeil, how many times has this been said, too! These things are not posted here for amusement. Take them to heart or the MMs will have your heart beating on their silver platter.

I suggest you only go short if both of two things are apparent: PVSRA indicates the MMs are bears, and PA is trending down. At that point, enter on upwards pullbacks. Obviously, the reverse for longs. Trade very light relative to account size so you have plenty of reserve Scouts for insurance and for Commando Scout insertions when there are those surprise "Monster" pullback opportunities presented by the MMs.

-tah
  • #59,022
  • Sep 13, 2013 8:25am Sep 13, 2013 8:25am
After such high volume on the up-bar, prices now falling back down. The MMs have shorted huge position when prices went up
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  • #59,023
  • Sep 13, 2013 8:30am Sep 13, 2013 8:30am
Quoting Islander
~NYO I sold UJ and bought Cable......now to hold or not

Edit: I did a hedge - closed UJ and kept cable open
charts re the above and now I am finished ....a good weekend to all.....
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Trading Levels with WRBs
  • #59,024
  • Sep 13, 2013 8:32am Sep 13, 2013 8:32am
The poor retail numbers in US gave MM's the perfect cover to pump the EU above the round number and dump again on high volume.
With PVSRA MM's games are very transparent.

Quoting akyong
After such high volume on the up-bar, prices now falling back down. The MMs have shorted huge position when prices went up {image}
  • #59,025
  • Sep 13, 2013 8:32am Sep 13, 2013 8:32am
Remember when there are alot of shorts on the table the MM will target the stops of the shorts. For a short to close their position they must buy. So when the short SL is hit this creates a small or large move up depending how many stop losses were taken out. Once the market is cleared of the stop losses then the MM will take the market in the direction they have been building. This can take time and we do not know how much liquidity they require to flip their positions. If they need to change billions of dollars then they need billions of dollars willing to take the opposite position.
  • #59,026
  • Sep 13, 2013 8:36am Sep 13, 2013 8:36am
Quoting Islander
{quote} charts re the above and now I am finished ....a good weekend to all..... {image} {image}
You had so profitable week, well done Islander, really well done

I'm excited to try your method as soon as possible
Whatever is obvious is obviously wrong!"
  • #59,027
  • Sep 13, 2013 8:40am Sep 13, 2013 8:40am
Quoting bogdan11
The poor retail numbers in US gave MM's the perfect cover to pump the EU above the round number and dump again on high volume. With PVSRA MM's games are very transparent. {quote}
Look how prices are reacting after that push up from the news. LOL
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  • #59,028
  • Sep 13, 2013 9:00am Sep 13, 2013 9:00am
Quoting loeil
{quote} You had so profitable week, well done Islander, really well done I'm excited to try your method as soon as possible
The method is not easy as to us seems. believe me.
  • #59,029
  • Sep 13, 2013 9:04am Sep 13, 2013 9:04am
Quoting akyong
{quote} Look how prices are reacting after that push up from the news. LOL {image}
PVSRA
Yes. You see, there is no law against insider trading within the currencies market. The MMs know well the essence of upcoming releases and put together in advance how they are going to "play" the market, i.e., how they are going to manipulate prices so they can gouge out more profits from the herd. Indicators will never be able to divine the plans of these evil and greedy people. On the other hand, PVSRA can indicate for us if they are bulls or bears, so we can use that information wisely to not be part of the slaughtered herd.

We plant when they plant. We Harvest when they harvest. Do not be in a hurry. Trade very light relative to account size. Profits from patience are the enduring profits.
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  • #59,030
  • Sep 13, 2013 9:09am Sep 13, 2013 9:09am
Quoting Islander
{quote} charts re the above and now I am finished ....a good weekend to all..... {image} {image}

Islander and TAH

Your posts are very educational. Keep up the good work sharing your thinking and educating us lesser mortals. It is quite obvious you have significant experience built up over I suspect a few years here and there. With both of you posting extensive posts (ably supported by the rest of us oiks) it is no surprise how useful and popular this thread is. Now if we can just get people to READ WHAT'S IN THE THREAD perhaps we can stop clogging the thread up with the same questions again and again.

Thanks to all you generous folk for sharing. It helps a lot.
Katte, kabuto no o wo shime yo. Size doesn't matter, leverage is the killer
  • #59,031
  • Sep 13, 2013 9:12am Sep 13, 2013 9:12am
I believe that large money is floating towards gbp. We can see eur and usd suffering. Eventually it will reverse I guess, we do not know when.

Meanwhile GBPUSD and GBPJPY continues to show bears. I hope for the best for everyone.
  • #59,032
  • Sep 13, 2013 9:12am Sep 13, 2013 9:12am
Quoting loeil
{quote} You had so profitable week, well done Islander, really well done I'm excited to try your method as soon as possible
Remember for all the times PVSRA has worked you've been praising it. In this instance, you've possibly overtraded or jumped the gun too early. Now your not happy with the system and jumping ship to another one.

Jack of all trades master at none.

Personally if I was you, I'd analyse the mistakes and not make the same ones next time..! that's my two pence..

For me PVSRA is fantastic

Most importantly I thank sonic, TAH and islander for their priceless contribution to the thread.
  • #59,033
  • Edited 10:21am Sep 13, 2013 9:18am | Edited 10:21am
Quoting revoli
{quote} Islander and TAH Your posts are very educational. Keep up the good work sharing your thinking and educating us lesser mortals. It is quite obvious you have significant experience built up over I suspect a few years here and there. With both of you posting extensive posts (ably supported by the rest of us oiks) it is no surprise how useful and popular this thread is. Now if we can just get people to READ WHAT'S IN THE THREAD perhaps we can stop clogging the thread up with the same questions again and again. Thanks to all you generous folk...
Give Me Access to Edit Post #1!

revoli,

You, Islander, myself.....and so many others that are willing to post illustrations of their viewpoints are what makes this thread so educational. We all support Sonic's "...sharing is caring..." philosophy by doing this. And the rewards are that we not only help others, but sometimes that comes right back to help us!

May I suggest that you, and that all serious Sonicers that are fed up with the repetition of elementary questions we suffer from, post appeals to Sonic to open Post #1 to me for some serious editing. If I had that license, there is much I would to to clean up, shorten, and make things crystal clear....such that our future response to such questions would need only be "Go to Post 1." and that would cover all questions adequately.

Of course, that won't help in situations where newbies can't read. It surprises me the number of them that think they can trade successfully!

-tah
  • #59,034
  • Edited 10:41am Sep 13, 2013 9:45am | Edited 10:41am
GU PVSRA : Bulls or Bear

Clearly the chart tells, most notable volume above the half number! indicates MM's bear! Price dropped once hit RDH, why? SL hunt and sucks in long to fill up more shorts for future profits!

might be hitting the high of 27 Jan 2013, which is 1.58920. Just a few pips away from today's high!

there's a gap on 28 January and price retrace up to the high 1.58770 on 1 February 2013 and the price boom! this 2 levels might be a hard resistance to break.

IF break, it might go up as high to 1.63375, which is on 2 January 2013.

let's see how it goes, but from the chart now, seems like MM's going to run for profits soon IMO.

Edit : Almost hit 1.58770 but got bounce back with high activity when price went up. what will happen later on??
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  • #59,035
  • Sep 13, 2013 10:24am Sep 13, 2013 10:24am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} Give Me Access to Edit Post #1! revoli, You, Islander, myself.....and so many others that are willing to post illustrations of their viewpoints are what makes this thread so educational. We all support Sonic's "...sharing is caring..." philosophy by doing this. And the rewards are that we not only help others, but sometimes that comes right back to help us! May I suggest that you, and that all serious Sonicers that are fed up with the repetition of elementary questions we suffer from, post appeals to Sonic to open Post #1 to me for some...
I suggested changing post # 1 previously. Any changes have occurred.
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...70#post6828770

Access to edit post # 1 TAH for you is a good idea.
Because Master Sonicdeejay is very busy.
If you think you can do a thing or think you can't do a thing, you're right
  • #59,036
  • Sep 13, 2013 10:28am Sep 13, 2013 10:28am
UChf Planting Opportunity

Look at H1. It is clear the MMs are basing this in the whole number SR area, currently pushing it back lower as they attempt to add longs at lower prices. This indicates that here, and on other pairs, the MMs will be extending their position building into next week. As for this pair, this is a planting opportunity, and it might improve somewhat as the day progresses into the off hours, because that is when the MMs have the least resistance to their price manipulations. It is clear they are manipulating this lower again, and might continue to do so right up to the end of the trading day.

Those interested might consider placing pending orders, somewhat above and somewhat below the whole number, just in case.
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  • #59,037
  • Sep 13, 2013 10:51am Sep 13, 2013 10:51am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} Give Me Access to Edit Post #1! revoli, You, Islander, myself.....and so many others that are willing to post illustrations of their viewpoints are what makes this thread so educational. We all support Sonic's "...sharing is caring..." philosophy by doing this. And the rewards are that we not only help others, but sometimes that comes right back to help us! May I suggest that you, and that all serious Sonicers that are fed up with the repetition of elementary questions we suffer from, post appeals to Sonic to open Post #1 to me for some...
Can you do that without accessing all his stuff? If he can provide access to you as an editor subject of course to his approval of what goes on (ie he has to retain the ultimate editorial control) then that would make a lot of sense and may help to tighten the thread up.

I was just reviewing my last trade and what I could do better. Taking a leaf out of Islanders book I am going to draw H4 bar on manually. The key is to start with the higher timeframes and build a mental picture well before the trade point.

Here is the UJ H4 w/o last bar:

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Two narrow range bars suggested possible downside, plus the trend had been broken.

Moving to M15:
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Looking at M15 again without last bars: a retrace to the M15 dragon, trend still down, and the pivot breached.

And finally M1 (M5 also useful of course):
All the clues were there if you were looking - but you have to have anticipated the move first
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My exit was lamentable, my entry fine. I also had a tilt at a GU long but quit before allowing it to reach target - patience required.

In summary WHAT WILL I DO BETTER:

1. Review - previous timeframes up to H4 and even daily. Draw them up!

2. Anticipate - what I think is likely to happen as a result of the evidence, and plan my position accordingly

3. Execute - only when all elements line up on M1 (Price Action, Volume, Support Resistance) and valid signal (3 dragons) confirms entry point.

4. Exit - In Frankies hour probably only 10 pips before LO. After this 20 pips, to be run if trend has real momentum and strength behind it.

This is not scalping, this is playing the price action (waves) and volume clues as taught by Sonic, TAH, Islander and others from post 1 on.

I nearly forgot - patience is key.

Meanwhile my PVSRA account rumbles on - not very happily at the moment.
Katte, kabuto no o wo shime yo. Size doesn't matter, leverage is the killer
  • #59,038
  • Sep 13, 2013 10:54am Sep 13, 2013 10:54am
Quoting marvas
{quote} Remember for all the times PVSRA has worked you've been praising it. In this instance, you've possibly overtraded or jumped the gun too early. Now your not happy with the system and jumping ship to another one. Jack of all trades master at none. Personally if I was you, I'd analyse the mistakes and not make the same ones next time..! that's my two pence.. For me PVSRA is fantastic Most importantly I thank sonic, TAH and islander for their priceless contribution to the thread.
Firstly, I'm not overtraded, not at all (DD ~16%), but this time my first trades are so so far away that I don't even believe that those trades will closed with profit. That is my concern.

And we can't deny that Islander is made a really good work. Don't you think so? Look how many users already trying Islander's method here!

And secondly, I'm not jumping from one ship to another, I wrote I want to TRY Islander's method. Read more carefully next time

And finally, I like sonicdeejay words: "why don't u add shorts on the way down". Actually it made me think, he's words..there is some truth in those words.
Whatever is obvious is obviously wrong!"
  • #59,039
  • Sep 13, 2013 10:59am Sep 13, 2013 10:59am
Quoting Islander
{quote} Yes, I can see buys at 4:01GMT and 5:01GMT - of course, I'm still sleeping at that time as I only trade the European Session - but UJ and AudUsd seem good for the Australasian Session.....
Thanks for answer! I asked just to clarify if i am right about possible setup or not, because my system gave very clear signal there.
Everything is possible!!! Step by Step...
  • #59,040
  • Edited 11:09pm Sep 13, 2013 11:04am | Edited 11:09pm
Quoting DmitryFX
I think that SonicR style trading from 1m chart in confluence with volume analyzing has very good potential!
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For sorry I am far from my PC but definitely profit was taken!
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Everything is possible!!! Step by Step...
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