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  • #59,001
  • Sep 13, 2013 7:41am Sep 13, 2013 7:41am
MMs had no intend to go short, not yet.. which is frustrating because 1st trade now like 700 pips below
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Whatever is obvious is obviously wrong!"
  • #59,002
  • Edited 7:57am Sep 13, 2013 7:42am | Edited 7:57am
Quoting wilo808
Hi Islander, refer you UJ trade below.. why were you not taking the long at the red circle? i see that candle pierced through the dragon and started to angle up. Thanks. {quote} {image}

It was going up in small bars on decreasing volume - also, look at the Swissy - remember I have my 5m multi monitor open too...

PS also zoom out a little from my posted chart and look at what had happened over the prior 2 hours - that's why I keep a higher TF chart open too....
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  • #59,003
  • Sep 13, 2013 7:46am Sep 13, 2013 7:46am
UChf Long Trade: Entered long Scouts #1-3. I am building a long trade here, as the MMs run the price down.
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  • #59,004
  • Sep 13, 2013 7:49am Sep 13, 2013 7:49am
Quoting loeil
MMs had no intend to go short, not yet.. which is frustrating because 1st trade now like 700 pips below {image} {image}

The trend is up. Why should the MMs go short?
Totally sick and tired of conspiracy theories.
  • #59,005
  • Sep 13, 2013 7:49am Sep 13, 2013 7:49am
Another 'bull' volume base in a making??


Sonic
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  • #59,006
  • Sep 13, 2013 7:51am Sep 13, 2013 7:51am
Quoting loeil
MMs had no intend to go short, not yet.. which is frustrating because 1st trade now like 700 pips below {image} {image}

if u r bearish,,why don't u add shorts on the way down..

Sonic
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  • #59,007
  • Sep 13, 2013 7:52am Sep 13, 2013 7:52am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} PVSRA, GU: Here is the whip I cautioned about...... {image}
Whip.
Totally sick and tired of conspiracy theories.
  • #59,008
  • Sep 13, 2013 7:52am Sep 13, 2013 7:52am
Quoting loeil
MMs had no intend to go short, not yet.. which is frustrating because 1st trade now like 700 pips below {image} {image}
!Revelation!

I have no idea why anybody bothers to view the dollar index. Just like any other technical, it goes where it goes after the MMs initiate their moves! It is far better to just stick with the chart of what you are trading and have a good sense as to if the MMs are bulls or bears, which PVSRA will help you with knowing.

-tah
  • #59,009
  • Sep 13, 2013 7:55am Sep 13, 2013 7:55am
Quoting sonicdeejay
Another 'bull' volume base in a making?? Sonic {image}
Sonic, you seem to have a different perspective of using volume from Prof Tah.

Any where we can understand more on how you use the volume indicators to analyze the market?
  • #59,010
  • Sep 13, 2013 7:56am Sep 13, 2013 7:56am
Quoting traderathome
PVSRA, GU: Comment By my recent posts you know PVSRA indicates the MMs are in USD strength mode. Not moving that way, but just the opposite; building for the moves. The moves might come in conjunction with the USD releases later this last trading day of the week. Something like this can be anticipated, but it can never be know with certainty. Looking at GU, we see that two days ago the MMs first pushed the price above the whole SR on very notable volume. This was a PVSRA indication the MMs were bears. They spiked the price up to stop out other bears...
Told cha!

"....If the MMs do manufacture another spike up, the RWH mark, about 88 pips above the current price, is reasonable..."

On the other hand, gee.....that was a nice Classic long setup and run for 50ish pips! Can't lose with Sonic R. System no matter which way you trade!
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  • #59,011
  • Sep 13, 2013 7:56am Sep 13, 2013 7:56am
Thanks Islander. well noted. .

Quoting Islander
{quote} It was going up in small bars on decreasing volume - also, look at the Swissy - remember I have my 5m multi monitor open too...
  • #59,012
  • Edited 8:10am Sep 13, 2013 7:58am | Edited 8:10am
Quoting sonicdeejay
{quote} if u r bearish,,why don't u add shorts on the way down.. Sonic {image}
I tried that, price started to fall and took my sell stop orders and then price goes up again. And we don't know when the real run for profit begin, so how I can add shorts when I don't know, which is real profit move and which is not? There are so many strong bearish sign since my first trade, but these signs are not the real signs.

Intend to try Islander's method when my PVSRA trades are closed finally As I see many traders already trying this method and pretty successfully.

Sonic I will add shorts on the way down, if you tell me, when it's REAL way down
Whatever is obvious is obviously wrong!"
  • #59,013
  • Sep 13, 2013 8:01am Sep 13, 2013 8:01am
Quoting Islander
{quote} Yes, I can see buys at 4:01GMT and 5:01GMT - of course, I'm still sleeping at that time as I only trade the European Session - but UJ and AudUsd seem good for the Australasian Session.....
If I may be so bold....

Given I just missed those GU and UJ runs for a quick bite to eat don't take me as an expert but were you trading at that time of day/night again the higher timeframes gave the clues beforehand. I think 3 dragons is the final confirmation signal to enter - it is the action beforehand that has to be taken into account. In isolation it is dangerous to just take every 3 dragon signal.

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Katte, kabuto no o wo shime yo. Size doesn't matter, leverage is the killer
  • #59,014
  • Edited 8:15am Sep 13, 2013 8:04am | Edited 8:15am
Quoting loeil
{quote} I tried that, price started to fall and took my sell stop orders and then price goes up again. And we don't know when the real run for profit begin, so how I can add shorts when I don't know, which is real profit move and which is not? There are so many strong bearish sign since my first trade, but these signs are not the real signs.
PVSRA

"There are so many strong bearish sign since my first trade, but these signs are not the real signs." - loeil

Bull shit! Many times has it been repeated here that we can know if the MMs are bulls or bears, but we can never know how they will move price nor for how long in either direction. In fact, I even took great pains to post well in advance a warning about what just happened (http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...83#post6961483).

If you don't read, that is your problem. Just don't blame it on PVSRA!

-tah
  • #59,015
  • Sep 13, 2013 8:05am Sep 13, 2013 8:05am
Quoting FXRobert
{quote} GU I must close same orders therefore. GU up 500, maybe more.
FXRobert the good decision
  • #59,016
  • Sep 13, 2013 8:07am Sep 13, 2013 8:07am
OK - I am finished posting today and will think over the weekend about the frustrations posting here is giving me - and TAH - continually answering questions from people - especially Newbies - who do not take the trouble to do some basic research before cluttering up this excellent thread with questions that have already been answered many times.

Newbies please do your own homework - check out The School at Babypips, it answers many of your questions.

When you arrive here - as in any thread READ THE FIRST POST AND FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS - LIKE DO NOT POST WITHOUT ATTACHING YOUR CHART

Then read all of the posts since 1st April 2013...........only after doing all of this should you be asking questions and will you find "seniors" more willing to respond.
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  • #59,017
  • Sep 13, 2013 8:12am Sep 13, 2013 8:12am
UJ HNS
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There is no spoon....
  • #59,018
  • Sep 13, 2013 8:19am Sep 13, 2013 8:19am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} PVSRA "There are so many strong bearish sign since my first trade, but these signs are not the real signs." - loeil Bull shit! Many times has it been repeated here that we can know if the MMs are bulls or bears, but we can never know how they will move price nor for how long in either direction. In fact, I even took great pains to post well in advance a warning about what just happened (http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...83#post6961483). If you don't read, that is your problem. Just don't blame it on PVSRA! -tah...
No need to shouting, I have traded by PVSRA and waiting the run for profits for 2 months now, like many other users! Sorry but I really don't believe that MMs preparing 2 months for running for profits
Whatever is obvious is obviously wrong!"
  • #59,019
  • Sep 13, 2013 8:19am Sep 13, 2013 8:19am
Quoting Msis125125
UJ HNS {image}
UJ:

HNS? ....Hunting neutered seagulls?

I am waiting for this to drop back towards the lower whole SR, where I will close it in anticipation that USD strength is coming (next week?)and might then interfere.
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  • #59,020
  • Sep 13, 2013 8:20am Sep 13, 2013 8:20am
Quoting revoli
{quote} If I may be so bold.... Given I just missed those GU and UJ runs for a quick bite to eat don't take me as an expert but were you trading at that time of day/night again the higher timeframes gave the clues beforehand. I think 3 dragons is the final confirmation signal to enter - it is the action beforehand that has to be taken into account. In isolation it is dangerous to just take every 3 dragon signal. {image}

@ wilo808 - you're welcome

@ revoli - NP - and of course you may You may remember that the first job of my trading day is to update the paper 4 hr charts that I have on my wall above my monitors, by hand with coloured pens! Next I check out my 15m Multi screen - and usually give my pesky cat some breakefast - then I drop down to my 5m Multis from which I decide which 1m chart I will look at......so I totally agree, always check out 1 or 2 higher time frames from the one that you are watching.....
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