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  • #58,621
  • Edited 6:54pm Sep 9, 2013 6:36pm | Edited 6:54pm
Quoting Muhammad Ezz
{quote} You know what! When I saw that I was quoted by TAH I thought like Oh Yeah!finally somebody with patience gonna walk me through understanding more about the system! Instead you only care that I said" All those indicators" even if it's obvious that I was joking and we all here appreciate your contribution sir. All I'm here for is to learn! Night, Sir
Muhammad Ezz,

If you want to learn the Sonic R. System, either trading Classics or Scouts or both, then you need to clean up your chart. Get rid of all the price lagging indicators that will only serve to distract you from the essence of the method......

......price, volume, support, resistance analysis

I am only trying to nudge you onto the right track. This has always been the essence of the Sonic R. System, long before the advent of PVSRA, which now provides a simple and effective way to analyze all four. You can still use the price action at S&R, the relative positioning and angles of the Dragon and Trend, and a bit of volume,....the standard method,....without using PVSRA if you wish. But there is absolutely no need for, and even danger in using all the crap you have on your chart. It only serves to keep you from properly learning the Sonic R. System, and will delay any progress you are capable of.

This is the link, rightly provided in Post #1, to the latest Sonic R. System indicators and templates:
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...75#post6707275
You will need to read and study everything, including the user notes within the compiles of each indicator!

-tah
  • #58,622
  • Sep 9, 2013 6:43pm Sep 9, 2013 6:43pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} Muhammad Ezz, If you want to learn the Sonic R. System, either trading Classics or Scouts or both, then you need to clean up your chart. Get rid of all the price lagging indicators that will only serve to distract you from the essence of the method...... ......price, volume, support, resistance analysis I am only trying to nudge you onto the right track. -tah
All right and I'm sorry Sir I was a bit out of my mind. So you're talking about using the TAH 3 template I guess. I tried to use it too but I turned back to the old one in the chart because I found an explanation for it in the pdf attached in the 1st post. Again, Apologies Sir
So sorry for always replying late! But I got 2 Jobs!!
  • #58,623
  • Sep 9, 2013 6:56pm Sep 9, 2013 6:56pm
Quoting traderathome
Stalking a Classic Long, UChf H4 - price has made a 50% retrace of the move up H1 - bigger volumes have been at recent lows M15 - time is needed for Trend to level and start up with Dragon moving above it ....and, there are at least two days before USD high impact releases, which is plenty of time for this all to sort itself out, although a good setup could occur early. {image} {image} {image}
Just be careful for those already short the EU since CHF is pegged to the EUR, you'll be doubling down in the same position if you go long USDCHF.
  • #58,624
  • Sep 9, 2013 6:58pm Sep 9, 2013 6:58pm
Quoting Muhammad Ezz
{quote} All right and I'm sorry Sir I was a bit out of my mind. So you're talking about using the TAH 3 template I guess. I tried to use it too but I turned back to the old one in the chart because I found an explanation for it in the pdf attached in the 1st post. Again, Apologies Sir
No apology needed, Muhammad Ezz. Practically every new person to the Sonic R. System thread is led astray by the files that Sonic displays at the bottom of Post #1. I have repeatedly asked Sonic to remove those outdated and dangerous indicators and templates. Until he does, we will all suffer more of the same wasted time.

-tah
  • #58,625
  • Sep 9, 2013 7:08pm Sep 9, 2013 7:08pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} No apology needed, Muhammad Ezz. Practically every new person to the Sonic R. System thread is led astray by the files that Sonic displays at the bottom of Post #1. I have repeatedly asked Sonic to remove those outdated and dangerous indicators and templates. Until he does, we will all suffer more of the same wasted time. -tah
All right TAH ... And I hope in the next chance you consider that there are new people here like me who doesn't know shit so a little detailed explanation on how TAH3 works would be great ..
So sorry for always replying late! But I got 2 Jobs!!
  • #58,626
  • Sep 9, 2013 7:09pm Sep 9, 2013 7:09pm
Quoting srt
{quote} Just be careful for those already short the EU since CHF is pegged to the EUR, you'll be doubling down in the same position if you go long USDCHF.
Thanks, srt. I already have a position built on EU. Stalking UChf is my way of entering the anticipated same "run for profits", but much nearer the beginning of it.
  • #58,627
  • Sep 9, 2013 7:11pm Sep 9, 2013 7:11pm
Quoting Muhammad Ezz
{quote} All right TAH ... And I hope in the next chance you consider that there are new people here like me who doesn't know shit so a little detailed explanation on how TAH3 works would be great ..
Still don't know what TAH3 is. Care to explain?

As far as learning, if you read all of post 1, including the brief form manual and the TAH indys/templates releasing post and then on to the user notes in the compiles of the released indicators, what more is there to learn? Anything else comes from watching others and from your own experiences. Then, there is of course, the option of using key words to search the thread for more information previously posted on various subjects.

If you have not come across this chart, then you have not adequately read the information provided by Post #1 by the links therein......
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  • #58,628
  • Sep 9, 2013 7:25pm Sep 9, 2013 7:25pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} Still don't know what TAH3 is. Care to explain? As far as learning, if you read all of post 1, including the brief form manual and the TAH indys/templates releasing post and then on to the user notes in the compiles of the released indicators, what more is there to learn? Anything else comes from watching others and from your own experiences. Then, there is of course, the option of using key words to search the thread for more information previously posted on various subjects. If you have not come across this chart, then you have not adequately...

That's actually what I understood in the other template but without indicators so it's simpler .. And sure I'm watching other people trades to get the experience needed beside watching the chart of course Thanks TAH
So sorry for always replying late! But I got 2 Jobs!!
  • #58,629
  • Sep 9, 2013 7:41pm Sep 9, 2013 7:41pm
Quoting marvas
AUD/JPY finding it very hard to analyse this pair. in the daily chart i can see that the pair has been ranging from around 92.700 to 86.500. i entered my trade initially based on high volume above the 91.500 half number. bears build positions above these numbers. not though the price has been brought to just under the 92.000 whole number with high volume underneath. have the bears turned to bulls? {image} {image}
PVSRA, AJ: Bulls or Bears?


My take on PVSRA is this. First the MMs gapped the price up thru the half SR to add better priced shorts. The clock is ticking down to the AUD high impact releases. Now the MMs pushed the price further up, thru the upper whole SR to add even better priced shorts. You have to understand that it is absolutely necessary for bear MMs to fabricate bullish PA in order to suck in longs. That is the only way they can get the liquidity for their shorts.

Did you start shorting too soon? Remember, we can know if the MMs are bulls or bears if we do a proper PVSRA. But we can never know how they will move the price. This is why it is critical for position builders using PVSRA to trade very light relative to account size! We plant when they plant. We Harvest when they harvest. The only way this works to our benefit is to trade very light relative to account size. This provides both insurance and the ability to plant when new planting grounds are made available. This is critical.....


.....absolutely critical!
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  • #58,630
  • Sep 9, 2013 7:49pm Sep 9, 2013 7:49pm
Quoting Muhammad Ezz
{quote} That's actually what I understood in the other template but without indicators so it's simpler .. And sure I'm watching other people trades to get the experience needed beside watching the chart of course Thanks TAH
Dude read the post 1 link 1, you are making a lot of pointless noise, no one owe to explain anything unless you have base knowledge. Be a man and get on with the reading, coz clearly you haven't read anything or the whole thing.
There is no spoon....
  • #58,631
  • Sep 9, 2013 7:52pm Sep 9, 2013 7:52pm
NZDUSD PVSRA indicated BEAR! Starting to build a position!
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There is no spoon....
  • #58,632
  • Sep 9, 2013 8:00pm Sep 9, 2013 8:00pm
Quoting Msis125125
NZDUSD PVSRA indicated BEAR! Starting to build a position! {image}
Sonicers,

Keep an eye out for posts by Msis125125, because he is spotting very well the areas where the MMs turn the price. He is as good at this as I have seen; far better at it than myself.

-tah
  • #58,633
  • Sep 9, 2013 8:12pm Sep 9, 2013 8:12pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} Sonicers, Keep an eye out for posts by Msis125125, because he is spotting very well the areas where the MMs turn the price. He is as good at this as I have seen, and far better at it than myself. -tah
Thank you, but NZDUSD still could rise 80 pips, but that is tops! After that possible 80 pips we are looking at 300 BEAR move with retracements off course!
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  • #58,634
  • Sep 9, 2013 8:45pm Sep 9, 2013 8:45pm
AUDUSD PVSRA indicated BEAR, jump in who didn't before. It is a tip of the iceberg. Possible 50-60 pips build up then 350 pips down. Well what I am going to do is to double my lot entrances now. So 0.05 transfers into 0.1.
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  • #58,635
  • Sep 9, 2013 10:03pm Sep 9, 2013 10:03pm
woah so msis is trading .05 lot now... instead of our .01 ill join you on NZDUSD..
  • #58,636
  • Sep 10, 2013 12:31am Sep 10, 2013 12:31am
Quoting loeil
AJ Short Trade: Added short #1 - #10 Trades 1-3 opened on last friday, others last night. {image}
AJ Short Trade: Added short #11 - #13

Bears pushed the price up on off hours, which is logically and expected. Besides the price is nearing a strong resistance area. Let's see what's gonna happen there, is it holds or breaks.
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Whatever is obvious is obviously wrong!"
  • #58,637
  • Sep 10, 2013 12:49am Sep 10, 2013 12:49am
Quoting tantra
{quote} {image}
Nice trades Tantra!
Everything is possible!!! Step by Step...
  • #58,638
  • Sep 10, 2013 12:50am Sep 10, 2013 12:50am
AU Short Trade: Added Short #1 - #10
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  • #58,639
  • Sep 10, 2013 12:50am Sep 10, 2013 12:50am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} PVSRA, AJ: Bulls or Bears? My take on PVSRA is this. First the MMs gapped the price up thru the half SR to add better priced shorts. The clock is ticking down to the AUD high impact releases. Now the MMs pushed the price further up, thru the upper whole SR to add even better priced shorts. You have to understand that it is absolutely necessary for bear MMs to fabricate bullish PA in order to suck in longs. That is the only way they can get the liquidity for their shorts. Did you start shorting too soon? Remember, we can know if the MMs are...
senior traderathome, you mean PVSRA have no SL? how you manage risk?
1% or .10% capital at risk or maybe lower per trade?
  • #58,640
  • Sep 10, 2013 12:52am Sep 10, 2013 12:52am
This system puts together all the philosophy and ideas on how to trade that i have been stumbling upon recently, i have spent heaps of time searching for that perfect stategy/sytem, like we all do and have finally learnt that its just not there. So when I came across this thread and read post#1 i was so excited!cant thank you enough for sharing all this!! and I cant wait to learn this and sart using it. cheers!
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